doubleofive

I'm all for fun!

Hey, I lurked this thread from the beginning, and I'm more than willing to help out with what I can.  A problem with splitting the film up to color correct is that we all might have different opinions on a way a scene should look, and someone might do one shot one way, and the cutaway might look completely different.  I guess we could have one person do all of the Exterior Mos Eisley scenes, for example, so that the walls don't change shades in between shots...

I'd love to do more color correction on your scans.  Since I tried to do a basic first pass on the ones I posted, I might just go through and try to perfect each one.  We'll see.

And I had problems with the aspect ratio, as 2.2 seemed way too stretched, so I did it at 1.9.

Wow, 4K. That would be incredible.

I was thinking yesterday while doing those color corrections (which were tons of fun by the way) about scratch removal, and the great thing about having all of these people willing to work on it and no deadline, is that we can actually split the movie into hundreds of pieces and have each person remove the scratches "by hand" instead of running it through some filter that will also get rid of the film grain/atmosphere.  I'm not sure how well it would work, but its always a possibility.

digitalfreaknyc said:

adywan said:

Janskeet said:

Adywan, do your new HD ersions have better picture quality than you revisits? Obviously they do or you wouldn't have them separate. But to this day the best source of SW is the '04 DVDs right, all thius HD stuff isn't SW in True HD. It's artificial HD, because there is n way to truely get better picture quality from DVDs right?

Janskeet you really should read up on what HD is and that my HD versions are from a high quality HD broadcast in true 1080p HD and therefore NOT artificial HD at all. These have nothing to do with my revisited edit at all so any questions about the differences in picture quality between the two is irrelevant because they are 2 totally different movies so that is why there are 2 separate threads.

The best source is not the 2004 DVD's at all. You really need to read the thread before posting . you seem to be just posting for the hell of it sometimes and doing this will only get you put on peoples ignore list. I noticed you just made a new thread about where my HD thread has gone when its only a few posts below this one.

 

Edit: i guess you beat me too it negative1. lol

 

 Actually, this is inaccurate.  There is no such thing as a 1080p broadcast.

Not in America.  That's why Adywan uses the German HDTV broadcast.

Alright, I tried my hand at color correcting these bad boys.  I tried to make it as simple as possible, so this is the three-step process I did in Photoshop:

1. Adjust the Levels for each shot.
2. Color Balance, adjusting the shifted the Cyan/Red between -30 and -50 and the Yellow/Blue between -15 and -20.
3. Used Selective Color to add Reds back in.

They're not perfect, but I think they might be a good starting point.

In doing this, I found that throwing a blue filter is a really tempting way to fix a film faded like this.  I can understand, but not excuse, the 2004 DVD now.

asterisk8 said:

new guy here. I really enjoyed ANH:Revisited, which I've watched 3 times in the last week. I want to contribute in some way. I have an idea I'm still fleshing out. Hold for procrastination until such date as I can catch up with myself.

Anyway, I'm still working my way through all 122 pages of this mammoth thread, so apologies for repeating what may have already been dealt with, but I wanted to mention something I just noticed.

The few exterior shots of the Echo Base hangar door in the beginning could use a little fog obscuring the view into the hanger, and maybe some billowing out. Nothing major or obvious. Subtle. It's warmer inside the hanger, right? The interior shot of Han trotting in on his tauntaun has that misty quality of a warmer interior space that's open to the colder exterior. But the exterior shot immediately before it lacks realism because it lacks the high-to-low pressure movement of that water vapor. Even obscured behind adywan's excellent personnel restructuring, that extra bit of environmental effect would really help to sell this shot.

And thanks, adywan! Thanks for putting in all the hard work for those of us without the talent! Instead we can just sit around and catalogue our every whim for you to realize!

 

(Edit: I realize this would be harder in, for example, the shot of Threepio and R2 waiting for Luke. Or am I wrong in thinking the hanger is warmer than the outside? Or am I wrong in thinking that would create vapor billowing out of the hangar door? Maybe the temp. difference is not large enough.)

Great idea *8.  I'm not sure its necessary because it may be just as cold in the base as it is out, but the effect would be interesting to see.

negative1 said:

gigantic xwing squadron..... wow..................

 

scanned at 2400dpi, and then reduced

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film : star wars 1977

reel : 06

frame : ?

scene : xwings attack death star

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Hello new background.  How are you?

Because its hard to navigate through the forum:

Adywan's version will be about 10000000x better, this is just a cut and paste job of my own.

I'm interested to see the quality of this...

Ziz said:

doubleofive said:

Ziz said:

doubleofive said:

2) After the generator on Hoth is blown up, is it possible to make the lights dim momentarily in the corridor that Han is rushing through, to show the instant before the emergency lights kick in? Or perhaps if possible add a reddish tint to the corridor scenes to indicate emergency power?

This would be awesome.  I thought it was strange that they lost their generator but they still seem to have full power...

Not necessarily.  The SHIELD generator got blown up.  POWER generators are something separate.  There's no reason to believe the two were physically connected.  Logically, they shouldn't be.

If the power generators failed and the shield generators were run by them, then the shield generators would turn off and the shield would be down.

Likewise the reverse - if the shield generators also provided power for everything else, then the whole base would go dark when the sheild generators were taken out.

By having the shield and power generators separate and independent, you're better off.  If the shield goes down, you've still got power to run your equipment.  And if power for the equipment goes down, then the shield is still protecting you while you work on restoring it.

That makes sense.  Maybe I was confused because Veers says "Prepare to target the main power generator"...

He says "main generator".

 

Oh, ok.  My fault.  Still, maybe an explosion that large might knock out main power, at least for a second.  My vote is still for lights flickering/dimming momentarily.  I wouldn't leave them off for the whole rest of the scene, as that would be too much work to have them constantly flickering or changed to red.  Besides, changing it to red would negate the color correction Ady is working on right now!

Ziz said:

doubleofive said:

2) After the generator on Hoth is blown up, is it possible to make the lights dim momentarily in the corridor that Han is rushing through, to show the instant before the emergency lights kick in? Or perhaps if possible add a reddish tint to the corridor scenes to indicate emergency power?

This would be awesome.  I thought it was strange that they lost their generator but they still seem to have full power...

Not necessarily.  The SHIELD generator got blown up.  POWER generators are something separate.  There's no reason to believe the two were physically connected.  Logically, they shouldn't be.

If the power generators failed and the shield generators were run by them, then the shield generators would turn off and the shield would be down.

Likewise the reverse - if the shield generators also provided power for everything else, then the whole base would go dark when the sheild generators were taken out.

By having the shield and power generators separate and independent, you're better off.  If the shield goes down, you've still got power to run your equipment.  And if power for the equipment goes down, then the shield is still protecting you while you work on restoring it.

That makes sense.  Maybe I was confused because Veers says "Prepare to target the main power generator"...

I don't have one solid site, but Wikipedia has a lot on aspect ratios.

Since this is off-topic, I'm going to put together a site with an explanation of how aspect ratios and anamorphic works and edit my post here with a link to it.

EDIT: In studying to make my own site, I found this site, which says everything I wanted to say.  So nevermind on my site.

Janskeet said:

I'm surprised we didn't see a 10 year old Han Solo winning a bet for the millenium falcon against a ten year old Lando in episode 3.

I could feel that scene coming, and I swore before Episode III came out if there was any sign of Han Solo in the prequels, I was going to leave the theater, go home, sell everything I have having to do with the prequels, and pretend they didn't exist, much like many of you have done without that motivation.

At first I thought all the nods towards the OT were cute and clever, but the more I thought about it and the more it happened, I began to realize what they were: pandering to the OT fans.  I mean, the characters at points almost looked into the camera and winked after some of them.  The one that comes to mind immediately is Obi-Wan's comment in Episode II of "Why do I feel like you're going to be the death of me?"  HAHA, its funny because Anakin eventually IS the death of him.  But wait...  If we watch the movies in numerical order as Lucas obviously wants us to do, no one will get that.  Instead of being an off-hand reference to things we already know, it becomes a "spooky" prophecy that echoes in the back of our minds as Vader strikes Obi-Wan down.

seventiesfilmnut said:

Hi there folks!

Watched the Empire Strikes Back GOUT last week and came up with a few suggestions which may be of interest/use. Apologies if they've been mentioned before, though I have done my best to check.

1) I was always slightly disturbed that upon Luke's crash he doesn't seem concerned with Dack (OK fair enough it may be obvious he's dead but...) and appears to just grab the grappling hook just before the walker mash! It might help this scene a tad if one of the "Daaackk!?" lines from the scene where Dack is shot is taken out, and then inserted as Luke is rummaging in the downed snow speeder, prior to jumping out the way in the nick of time. It would show Luke is double-checking if Dack is really a corpse, and add a bit of... I dunno... loyalty to one's co-pilot in this scene, rather than Luke just searching for the hook and that's all.

Sevb32, I just listened to the Radio Drama last week and it just has a Rebel tech announcing to Leia what he sees on the monitor like a play-by-play commentary.  Like: "Skywalker has been shot down, but he dives out of the way as the walker steps on his speeder!  Skywalker grapples up the bottom of a walker... AND IT'S DOWN!"  I'm not sure one of Luke's shouts would work though, as Luke already yelled and didn't get a response, so why would he still yell...  If I recall correctly, doesn't he check Dack, then grab the grappling hook after he sees the walker bearing down on him?

2) After the generator on Hoth is blown up, is it possible to make the lights dim momentarily in the corridor that Han is rushing through, to show the instant before the emergency lights kick in? Or perhaps if possible add a reddish tint to the corridor scenes to indicate emergency power?

This would be awesome.  I thought it was strange that they lost their generator but they still seem to have full power...

3) After the first walker is downed, notice the walker behind it - the head swings around in an EXTREMELY fake manner. Perhaps this could be slowed down or altered in some way? I think more laser fire from these walkers would also intensify the situation a little - like the near constant barrage of laser-fire in the Genosis fight in Episode II?

I love the barrage of laser fire on Geonosis, but it might be a little too much coming from just 5 or 6 walkers.  If there were troops on the ground also, yes, but not just from the walkers.

4) When Luke is trudging through the snow and then turns around to see the Falcon make her escape, the timing is slightly off as he follows her path. Is this fixable?

I believe Adywan said that he can fix that.

5) The Vader in the cave scene has always been pretty spooky, but I think it could be enhanced more. After the head has been severed and rolled to a stop, a nice scarey hissing sound of breath escaping the mouth would add to the atmosphere, as would some whisps of smoke from the neck stump, and curling out of the nostrals and mouth - reckon this would really ramp up the shocking nature of this scene, in the same way Adywan did to the severed arm in the Cantina scene in ANH-R. Maybe white out his eyeballs as well or have them sith-coloured?

Smoke would be awesome, but Sith eyes have already been discussed and shot down.

6) When one of the holographic images of a star destroyer captain meets his demise due to an asteroid strike, perhaps add a Wilheim scream as his image flickers out?...

LOL yes.  I'm always up for more Wilhem Screams.

7) There should be some kind of alarm noise in the background of the star destroyer scenes to indicate the high-alert/danger status of something that big flying through an asteroid field!!!

Maybe they silenced it, because that would get annoying after a few hours.

8) Backing up a tad, in the "doors must be closed" scene, you can see the doors closing behind Chewie just before they are meant to close! They then start again in the close up!!! Can these be 'frozen' somehow in this scene to correct continuity?

Yes, continuity.  I believe this has been pointed out, but it doesn't hurt to make sure.

adywan said:

The Golden Idol said:

ladyferry said:

AuggieBenDoggie said:

Ady, regarding the request of Yoda's facial expression, why not try out a sample scene just for the hell of it to see how it would work out. You could do a split screen and show the difference. It would be interesting to see how it would look. If the effect isn't distracting it just might work.

 

 Like TOTALLY! (oops, do I sound like some valley girl or what?)

 

 Yes, please do this!

I might just do this once i have finished the colour correction. I can't wait for that part to be finished. i have so many things i want to try out

I too am eager to see what concepts you come up with.  The Alderaan Destruction Concept is one of my favorite parts of ANHR and it didn't even make it in!

I still have those sheets!  I used to switch between them and my RotJ sheets when I was growing up.  Admitted I don't use those sheets anymore, as they don't fit our queen-sized bed--

Oh my gracious, these come in queen.  That's incredible.  Still don't think my wife would appreciate it though...

My dream is to fly to England and make a documentary with Adywan.  That's just a dream though.

Adywan has tried audio commentary, but it was going to take up too much space on the DVD and he doesn't like the sound of his own voice (I can understand).  The text commentary goes through more than an audio one would anyway.  It'd be nice to have both (like the Star Trek movies do), or a seperate documentary, but I don't think it would happen.

The XVID is PAL speed, isn't it?  That would make sense...

He denies speeding it up any.  Just better cuts.

ChainsawAsh said:

Quick question:  Other than improved lightsaber effects and new music, what did Ady do to the Obi-Wan/Vader duel in ANH?  I don't remember it being any different other than those two things.

He actually did a new edit of it.  I can't recall specifics, but I think there are tighter cuts and some rearranging.  Quite nice, especially when you didn't notice.  Can't do that to ESB, since the fight is pretty linear, instead of two old guys spinning around in one room, who then move next to an open door.

DMaarten said:

cas_tanje said:

 

 

Hello guys, my first post here! :D

I have spoken to Adywan on Youtube, and asked him some things. Most of these were already added to the list, so there are only four things left that I would like to be added:

- Give the lightsaber duel a faster pace. (I didn't see it on the list?)
- Change the interior of the ships (on Hoth?) So they look more like the prequels
- Let the platforms of the ships (Where the people walk in and out the ship) go down more smoothly (In Cloud City etc.)
- Add more ships to Cloud City

Excuse me if they are already on the list. And Excuse me for my bad English, I hope you can understand me xD.

Cas_Tanje

My forecast:

1 not gonna happen, the fight is good as it is

2 not gonna happen, the interiors are fine, the prequels suck :)

3 like it, would be better if it is smoother faster

4 also good, since a LOT of people live/work there, just no overload, just a couple more here and there

 

3. I'm not sure how many loading ramps go down on Cloud City, but the Falcon is a "piece of junk", therefore I don't think anything should be smoothed out about it.

I've been looking at the clouds recently and thinking of doing what Josh has done, but I figured that somewhere in Ady's arsenal there has to be a camera and there have to be clouds in England.

Right?

porkinsred6 said:

Hello All

  I found the Revisited Trailer on youtube last week and have since tracked down this site, downloaded the XVID and DVD-5 and read all 256 pages of this thread!  This is one of the most amazing achievements I have ever seen!

Unfortunately I do not have a DL burner so I wouldn't be able to watch the DVD-9.  However, I really would like to see the special features from the DVD-9, especially the "making of" where Adywan explains how he made his masterpiece.  Is there a place where one can download the special features without having to download the entire DVD-9?

 

Thanks,

porkins

Welcome to the fold, Porkins!  Although there is no "making of" like you describe, there is a multi-angle view comparing a scene from the 2004 DVD, the unaltered DVD, Ady's foreground elements, Ady's background elements, and Ady's full Revisited.  It's pretty neat to see all the work he put into just those few minutes.  Another neat look is the Visual Comparison I have posted in my signature, which goes through every visual change in the movie with some text commentary.  Ady did not make an audio commentary or full making of feature, though we begged him to do so.

The DVD-9 is worth it for the the multi-angle thing I already described, and some deleted scenes and concepts, along with a higher quality film in general (with a couple changes from the DVD-5 you can find here).  I would suggest finding a friend with a dual layer burner, or you could download daemontools, which lets you mount iso files as virtual DVDs on your computer.  Then you could watch the DVD-9 on your computer without burning anything!  It's pretty neat.

I can't find the article, but I read that ILM redid the Yoda shots in TPM to get back into practice for doing RotS.  I found a video on YouTube that inserts the few seconds of CGI Yoda into the existing scene.  And I have to say seeing them side by side only reinforces the fact that the puppet they made for TPM is messed up in every regard.

I played the demo as well, several times in fact, and I have to say that its a lot of fun.  However, I don't think I can justify $60 for a game without multiplayer, or at least a sandbox-like environment.  Assassin's Creed had the open environment I crave, but after I beat it without multiplayer it was pointless.

That being said, I'll probably rent The Force Unleashed and blow through the campaign, but unless there's multiplayer or co-op or something, it's not worth my money.