doubleofive

Check it out IF.  The DLs have ALL of the extras, the SLs have a FEW of the extras and still have motion menus and stuff.  The PURIST is the only one with no menus or anything bonus at all.

As for the PAL DL, I don't remember, since as you well know, I don't have to deal with the 4% speedup.  But the PAL SL does have SOME extras and menus, just not all of them.

I tried to cover all of this on OT's FanEdits.com, but it looks like there have been some tweaks to them.

ken's story reminded me of how impressed I was when I saw the SE in theaters.  I kept looking at the sides of the screen, noticing hundreds of new things they must have added!  Only later did I realize that they didn't add that much, they were always there I just never saw them on my fullscreen VHS!

Now that I think about it, since I don't own the GOUT, I've never seen the OOT in widescreen...

Asteroid-Man said:

Ady, do you have the Lightsaber battle without any music?

The "PURIST" version is pretty much that.

And how do you suppose we go about doing this?  I feel that the 2006 "Bonus Discs" were a direct result of this website.  If we cry that they need to release the original versions, they'll say "We already did, buy it."

If the Star Wars movies make it to Blu Ray before the format ends (whenever that may be), I won't buy them unless its an all-encompassing record of every release, audio track, bonus feature, commentary, and what have you, like the Blade Runner set.  It would be pointless to have the 2004 versions again.

The longer it takes to lower prices, the less likely I'm going to try to invest (again) in a physical format.

You have two (legal) choices.  Buy, or don't buy.

They are re-releasing the OT again, with the Original OT as a bonus feature.  Now these are pretty low quality Laserdisc transfers, but they are the only offical way to have the OOT.

I would buy that set, which theoretically justifies all of the fan edits on this site, then watch those.

adywan said:

Josh said:

Now that i think of it, why does it have a red/orange glow, was it ment like that, or an accident during post production?

i'm not sure but the stardestroyer engines in ESB don't have the blue glow they have in ANH and have a orange glow now too, so i guess it was intentional.

You are changing them all to blue even though it seems intentional, right?  Continuity!

White walls?  Red sabers?  Grey ships?  It's almost like they were meant to be seen this way!

Spudz777 said:

I don't suppose there's any "official" cover art for this? I've gots lots of possibilities, but nothing that screams perfection...

As Ripplin points out, there are plenty of possiblities, but nothing can beat an original painting by the editor himself.

I uploaded a larger version to my OP.  I'll update it to last week's revelation soon.

EDIT: Updated to last week.  Haven't watched this week's yet.

EDIT2: Watched this week, updated the timeline.

Interesting to note that John Connor (if he hadn't time jumped) would be the exact same age as I am.

We don't have an official list yet (Adywan is working on it, I think).

Basically, my understanding is that it comes down to an un-Special Edition with some tweaks here and there.

The 2004 Emperor voice will remain, but the dialog will be modified to match as closely as possible the original dialog.  The bad Revenge of the Sith makeup job will be replaced with modified video/images from Return of the Jedi (see the ESB Revisited Teaser Trailer).

Windows in Cloud City will remain open for the most part, with windows that disappear all of a sudden remaining open.

Boba's voice will be changed back to the original, and Jango's helmeted voice will be modified in some way in Attack of the Clones Revisited.

There will be no noticable score, plot, or pacing changes as for the most part ESB is already perfect.

Now this is all to my understanding of Ady's past posts.  There might be other changes he's willing to share shortly.  Part of me wants to know every tweak he's going to do, the rest of me wants to be surprised.  I think the "know-everything" part will win though.  It's in my nature.

I just watched the season premiere today on Hulu (the wife lost interest during the strike).

I have to say that it was pretty emotionally charged, more about feelings than actual events.  I'm not sure how they're going to explain all of the Terminators having hands in pretty much every event that lead up to the creation of Skynet.  Talk about messing with the timeline.  I supposed an advanced AI has gone through all the ways this could go wrong and still went through with it.

I made this timeline comparison last season to explain to my wife and friends how things are flowing in the different movie/TV show timelines.

EDIT: Updated to Season 2, Episode 2 ("Automatic for the People")

adywan said:

doubleofive said:

adywan said:

well the colour correction on Empire is coming along nicely. Vaders saber is again red and not pink. The walls in Cloud City are no longer blue. But there are many shots where most of the colour information is almost gone. I've said it before, and i'll say it again: Whoever did the colour restoration on these movies needs to be shot.  I'll post some more screenshots later

So are you just color correcting Vader's saber to be red, or are you going to go through and redo all of the sabers and laser blasts like you did with ANHR?

I'm recolouring the red for now, just for the AVCHD version, but for revisited i will be re-rotoscoping all the sabers

 

Excellent!  I don't envy you re-rotoscoping the carbonite pit duel with all the smoke.  I still can't believe they were able to do that by hand back then!

adywan said:

well the colour correction on Empire is coming along nicely. Vaders saber is again red and not pink. The walls in Cloud City are no longer blue. But there are many shots where most of the colour information is almost gone. I've said it before, and i'll say it again: Whoever did the colour restoration on these movies needs to be shot.  I'll post some more screenshots later

So are you just color correcting Vader's saber to be red, or are you going to go through and redo all of the sabers and laser blasts like you did with ANHR?

ImperialFighter said:

Yeah, once he's watched THAT, he might completely rethink his position on 'fan edits'!  :) 

Eh, the demonoid guy seems more like the type to complain that Lucas always envisioned the "dinosaurs" in "mos eisleley" ;-)

zombie84 said:

doubleofive said:

I didn't even realize he had done more than sound for movies until Good Musician started complaining about how he ruined the score for Episode II.  Where do we find evidence of him in the editing suite?

 

 Um, in any documentary on the making of the prequels.

 

Plus, he's the EDITOR.

I guess I never paid attention because most of the time that I saw him in the documentaries, he was mixing the sound, which makes sense to me.  Sorry I don't have the prequel credits memorized.

I watched ESB in whole just a couple months ago, with the commentary track on to try to find things that might need tweaking for ESB:Revisited.  I watched ANH:Revisited just before the XVID came out, and maybe once on DVD-5, but not the DVD-9 all the way through.

Other than that, the last time I watched the movies completely through was my sophomore year of college (2002-2003) to show them to a friend who hadn't seen them all.  I started with Episode I and II, skipped III because it didn't exist yet, then watched the OT over the course of a month or so.  I guess we also just watched the 97 SE tapes since the DVD wasn't out then.

I didn't even realize he had done more than sound for movies until Good Musician started complaining about how he ruined the score for Episode II.  Where do we find evidence of him in the editing suite?

Hooray for SFX work!  I can't wait to see what you come up with to fix all of these ridiculous things we've pointed out in the last few months...

From movie mistakes to logical flaws to continuity errors to things no human should have ever noticed about any film, its nice to know that this edit is in the hands of someone who takes every suggestion seriously and is looking only to tweak an already great movie into perfection.

I don't recall seeting the movie for the first time because I grew up with the OT on VHS.  ESB and RotJ were CBS/Fox releases, some of the first VHSs ever.  Our copy of ANH was a VHS copy of the CED.

The first time I really watched them was when I got the THX/Faces VHS set for my birthday in 1995.

Speaking of crappy DVD covers (which the 2004 DVDs are pretty bad), have you really ever looked at the 97 SE posters?  Now I love Drew Struzan, and he did do this in a hurry, but I don't know...

Nothing much to complain about in this one.  That shot of Leia isn't from ANH I don't think.

I love the Empire poster, but it has Vader's TIE from ANH and Ian McDiarmid, who wasn't in that movie until 2004.

OK, the centerpiece of this poster is the beginning of the battle from the previous movie.  I don't get that.

Maybe this is because they're meant to fit together, but he could at least have tried to use more images from the individual movies on the individual posters.

Waaay off topic, but it hit me a couple weeks ago.

Another 35mm thread.  Awesome.  Have to bookmark this one too.

Ripplin said:

I'm sure I'll sound like a broken record, at least to Adywan, but would there be any NTSC/PAL issues with these? I know Blu-Ray is region free, but these would be on DVD-9s, so...? Sorry, but at least if you tell me now, I won't have to ask again. :p

I believe that since they run at a native 24p there wouldn't be any problems and your Blu Ray player would do the framerate changes anyway.

So you're telling us that this board went from having no reels of any movie to the entirety of ESB in English, ANH in Spanish, and at least 2 SPARE reels of ANH, all in the space of a few months?

Incredible.  This is truly a day to be remembered.

I think we all got distracted by the action here, so we forgot that this is the ANHR thread!