doubleofive

adywan said:

Ha ha. Looks like my edit has pissed off some of the TFN guys. That's made my day :)

http://boards.theforce.net/the_star_wars_saga/b10456/10488221/p261

Eh, I've read worse.  I was kinda hoping it was a huge anti-Adywan thread that I could hop in on, not a random post or two.  Something like Zombie's "Secret History" thread over there.  That seems like they're being a bit harsh on one who just presented the facts.

And I don't think the end battle of ANHR is a jumbled mess.  It makes so much more sense than the empty ship shots with no reference points for location or scale, and definately more than the blank shots from inside the cockpits.  And 30 Rebel ships against a moon-sized battlestation and a huge number of enemy fighters might not be as elegant-looking as one would imagine.

The BDP-S350 is now $299.99 MSRP.  The prices are starting to drop...

My wife still says that we're holding out for a BD 360 add-on...

I loved that.  It would have gone well in their "Our Dumb Century" book, where some of my favorite articles are about movies/comics if they were real (Local Photographer Youth Killed By Radioactive Spider" and so forth).

adywan said:

I've always thought that the ending for the saga should have had a fitting orchestral score, so that is what i will be doing. I have a few years before i get to this stage so plenty of time to find the right piece of music. Plus i really need to concentrate on ESB:R so i don't really want to think about ROTJ:R for a while yet.

Did we find something Ady can't do?  You can't compose and orchestrate your own music?  What a shame. ;-)

I tease.  But seriously, maybe GoodMusician can whip something up for you sometime.  Assuming he lives up to his name...

P.S. I for one would buy a signed copy of the painting.

asterisk8 said:

Steering things somewhat back on topic....

Is it against the rules for adywan to do some kind of raffle to help raise money for equipment? The prize could be an original signed Star Wars painting by the man himself. I know I would buy a few raffle tickets for that. Or is that considered profiting from your fan-edit (even though no one is paying for a copy of said fan-edit)? If doing a fan-edit trashes your computer, fans chipping in to fix it isn't really profit, it's recouping losses, right?

Just a thought.

Adywan is no stranger to taking donations.  He has a Paypal account to donate to at any time.  Though eBaying his painting would be awesome, but if I was him, I'd want to keep it.

adywan said:

I've been having a few problems with the PC recently, after effects crashing on heavy renders & drives suddenly disappearing in windows (you could hear them power down) amongst other things. The PC hasn't been off in months and when i turned it off last night it just wouldn't restart. it tried to but failed after a few seconds and kept on trying. Luckily i know a bit about computers so i began testing that all the pci cards were in correct and changed all the cabling to the drives but still no luck. But then i tried removing the new drives and it started up  without any problems. I was preying that its wasn't the drives so i plugged them back in and it failed to start again. So this time i unplugged 2 different drives and it again started up without problems. I'm such a dumb f**k at times. I totally forgot that when i upgraded to the quad core and added the 2 new drives that i should have got a higher powered power supply. I have a 550w at the moment and it looks like I've worn it out and its just unable to cope. This is going to have to wait until mid October when we get paid and i don't want to risk any damage to the pc so i'm using the wife's laptop now until i get the power supply. This project is as jinxed as ANH:R by the looks of things. But its my stupid fault for forgetting about the extra power requirements when i upgraded. So no more work on ESB:R until this problem is sorted i'm afraid. :(

Man, you just can't catch a break!  We appreciate the work you do, and hey, at least you didn't lose everything or blow your motherboard!

I'm thinking about convincing my wife that she needs Iron Man, her new favorite movie, on Blu Ray.  That might push her in the right direction.  But she'll probably be afraid of that format dying since I convinced her last year that HD DVD was the answer...

So I was looking at the thread about the changes in Vader's suit and was directed to the Secret History of Star Wars site's area about Vader.  There I found these quotes:

Return of the Jedi gave us some slight modifications as well, notably a further enhancement of the vocal flanging to make it seem more processed and electronic than in Empire Strikes Back, perhaps because the unmasking scene at the end would reveal a design that shows that Vader's natural voice is processed and amplified through an electronic system.

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Finally, Star Wars was altered where possible to match the depiction seen in the subsequent entries--James Earl Jones' voice was enhanced for the 2004 DVD release to sound more like the electronic version of Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi and Revenge of the Sith .

I know Ady said that he modified Vader's voice in the ANHR DVD-9, but me being the dense person I am have not been able to notice the difference.

Ady, are you going to modify Vader's voice in ESBR to match RotJ, or does ANHR match ESB so now you need to unprocess RotJR?  Not like I ever noticed the difference, but I'm just curious.

Spudz should have been here April 1...  Those were the days.  I nearly cried before I became in on the joke.  You can check out my recap here.

adywan said:

doubleofive said:

I love seeing the previews/teasers.  Keep em coming!

OK. your wish is my command. lol

Here's another comparison but this time its a Bespin scene. Enjoy (oh and ignore the scrap room scene because the colour isn't finished yet & there's a glitch in the colour correction in one shot that drops the brightness for a frame, but i'll be fixing that.)

BESPIN COMPARISON - XVID RAPIDSHARE 47mb approx

Adywan is like my personal genie, for this is not the first time he has followed my suggestions in the same day (see June 12, 2008: Adywan posts a split screen comparison because I suggested it).

count_doodie said:

thankyou for clearing that up guys! i see ady has been a busy busy man! my net connection is super SLOW so i spent over a week downloading the xvid version which you've labeled first draft. are there any differances between the drafts? (on youtube i saw a version where we see bail and jar jar on alderaan - not a fan)

also after readin the stickies i came across the B&P method. anyone on here from the UK  who would be wiling to help this humble pilgrim? cursed as i am with such slow internet.

-doodie

The Extended Alderaan Destruction sequence is not in any version of the film, but extended and added as a bonus feature deleted scene on the DVD-9.

Here are the differences which are listed on Fanedits.com (which I wrote, actually):

DVD-5
Changes from the Xvid:
- Removed the ILM crew member from the droid sale
- Removed the wire and batteries seen up Luke's sleeve in Ben's hut
- Removed the remaining wires from Ben's sleeve during the sabre fight
- Ponda Baba's arm swapped for Dr. Evazan' s arm & hand
- Slight tweak to the TIE approach. The background & camera is no longer static at the beginning & a new Death Star surface
- Fixed the gunport shot during the TIE battle where the gun remains static when Han swings the chair and the gun can clearly be seen over the top of the chair instead of behind it
- Typos in the credits fixed

DVD-9
Changes from the DVD-5:
- Replaced "fixed shot" where gun was added to the Death Star Control Room to prevent a continuity error and erased a gun from the following shot. Now there are three guns on the rack after our heroes leave the droids behind.
- Remixed Vader's voice even further to match the rest of the trilogy(?)

PURIST
Changes from the full version:
- Changed 3PO's line back to "There'll be no excape for the princess this time"
- Re-edited Obi-Wan's Hut scene back to its original version
- Removed the extended Death Star reveal
- Removed the extended TIE Fighter reveal
- Removed all music not originally found in the film

So the DVD-5 really isn't so much of a "second draft" as it is a pretty much final draft with one, maybe two tweaks.  Adywan really doesn't remember exactly what changed, but the bonus features are the real draw to the DVD-9 (or DVD DL or dual layer DVD).

Yes, yes, to ChainsawAsh you listen!

Basically there are 5 Adywan-branded copies of ANH out there:

XVID (Revisited first draft)
DVD-5 (Revisited second draft)
DVD-9 (Revisited final draft)
PURIST (Revisited - some changes)
AVCHD (A New Hope 2004 SE color-corrected without Greedo shooting)

PURIST is Revisited with 3PO's line restored to "no escape for the Princess this time", Obi-Wan's scene unedited, the extended Death Star reveal and Death Star attack removed, and no prequel/sequel music.  Everything else is the same, including Alderaan's explosion (which is from Stargate SG-1, actually).

This information is also available here.

If you go to http://www.cutepdf.com/ and download the software, you can just push "Print" from Publisher and choose CutePDF as your printer and it saves it as a PDF.

It's pretty awesome.

Everything looks great.  I still can't believe I never noticed that Yoda glows blue, almost like he's already a Force ghost.

I love seeing the previews/teasers.  Keep em coming!

It seems there is no way to get further off topic than we are right now.

So, Adywan, what has been your toughest shot to color correct so far?  And maybe could you do another Photoshop file showing all the layers just in your color correction?

I would not "lock first posts by default" as Adywan and others have used the first post for general information, which is beyond helpful.  However, "allow additional text, but original post text cannot be deleted" would be interesting, if you could work it out.  That way we would be able to see what they first posted and what people are commenting about on that first page, but they would be able to have "9/19/2008 UPDATE" where they could add screenshots or links or whatever.

EDIT: This of course would not allow us to fix typos, rephrase ourselves unless we did something like this.

EDIT2: I should have put a slash between "typos" and "rephrase" or rephrased the whole thing.  OR maybe I should think before I push "post".  That might fix a lot of everyone's editing problems.

Thanks.  I would add more lines for more time jumps, but TSCC is getting quite out of hand!  And no one knows when "Vick" replaced the real one, or who the "engineer" is, or anything like that.

I'd love to see an official timeline.  I'm sure it'd be animated to reflect the changes in the future.

I watched a few minutes of RotJ on Spike the other night and noticed at least one thing.  There's a jump cut as R2 moves the lightsaber to the top of his dome on Jabba's Sail Barge in preparation of shooting it to Luke.

Check it out IF.  The DLs have ALL of the extras, the SLs have a FEW of the extras and still have motion menus and stuff.  The PURIST is the only one with no menus or anything bonus at all.

As for the PAL DL, I don't remember, since as you well know, I don't have to deal with the 4% speedup.  But the PAL SL does have SOME extras and menus, just not all of them.

I tried to cover all of this on OT's FanEdits.com, but it looks like there have been some tweaks to them.

ken's story reminded me of how impressed I was when I saw the SE in theaters.  I kept looking at the sides of the screen, noticing hundreds of new things they must have added!  Only later did I realize that they didn't add that much, they were always there I just never saw them on my fullscreen VHS!

Now that I think about it, since I don't own the GOUT, I've never seen the OOT in widescreen...

Asteroid-Man said:

Ady, do you have the Lightsaber battle without any music?

The "PURIST" version is pretty much that.

And how do you suppose we go about doing this?  I feel that the 2006 "Bonus Discs" were a direct result of this website.  If we cry that they need to release the original versions, they'll say "We already did, buy it."

If the Star Wars movies make it to Blu Ray before the format ends (whenever that may be), I won't buy them unless its an all-encompassing record of every release, audio track, bonus feature, commentary, and what have you, like the Blade Runner set.  It would be pointless to have the 2004 versions again.

The longer it takes to lower prices, the less likely I'm going to try to invest (again) in a physical format.

You have two (legal) choices.  Buy, or don't buy.

They are re-releasing the OT again, with the Original OT as a bonus feature.  Now these are pretty low quality Laserdisc transfers, but they are the only offical way to have the OOT.

I would buy that set, which theoretically justifies all of the fan edits on this site, then watch those.