doubleofive

All this talk about rearranging all of the Executor bridge shots and creating a whole new building for the Vader/Luke duel to take place in reminds me of when this was basically going to be a color correction / restoration to the 1980 pacing.  Now it sounds like the 510 pictures showing the visual changes in ANHR are going to be nothing compared to all of the visual changes and tweaks Ady is announcing now.

I can't wait to see them all.

vaderios said:

Also some perspective issue:

-Angel

 

Amazing work.  You also got rid of the lightsaber shadows.  LOL

RotJ is better in the color department than ANH or ESB, but not perfect.  I'm sure Ady's color correction will cover your recent thoughts, Angel.

As for the battle outside the Emperor's window, I think it should be moved closer, but not that close.  They'd still have to be outside the range of the shields.  But I think they should be more than points of light off in the distance, especially when Luke is watching during The Temptation.  And I don't know if the DS surface would be in view from a tower that high above the surface...  I don't have the brain for the calculations they did over on the ESBR thread about the Executor surface, so it might very well be visible.  Not sure if its necessary though.

ImperialFighter said:

adywan said:

Well i have solved the issue i was having with the placement of the Executor bridge and the control room. It came to me the other night when i was looking at the final shot in the movie of Vader waking off the bridge and down some steps. Why not change the background to include the control room. this would explain how Vader got to the control room from the bridge in the probe droid report sequence. All i had to do was change the background for the final shot and add steps to the wide bridge matte shots. sorted.

"All I had to do...."  Heh, heh, you make it sound so easy Adywan!  Great stuff once again.  This entirely ties-in with what I always imagined as being the general layout, when we first see the Bridge in the movie, now.

Same here.  This is exactly the setup I always imagined, thanks for making my imagination right!

That is hilarious though, "All I had to do."  "You know all those shots where they're weren't stairs?  Yeah, I added some."

So I recorded Friday's episode on both the SD and HD channels to figure out what kind of ratio the HD channel was giving me...

And it was just fine.  Whatever crop/stretch mess they had going on has been replaced by the standard 16:9.  That's awesome that SkyHD has them in 2.35:1, but I wonder if they'll be available on home video in that ratio.  The DVDs say 16:9 so far.  Maybe someone should start archiving the SkyHD versions just in case.

*woosh*

That's the sound of this whole thing going over my head.

vaderios said:

The good with the paintings is that they are fast.

The diference with the mattes is it needs time.

Monroville: I really like the concepts you make. But Ady will be the final judge of what is in or not :)

I try to make your ideas with more detail just for fun and for brainstorming!

 

-Angel

That.  Is.  Awesome.

How many fan edits have Matte Artists?

FanFiltration said:

edskizzorhands said:

FanFiltration said:

also our fan made William Shatner, Commentary track (audio edit from his Movie Memories audio book),

Nice to see someone took my suggestion. I mentioned it a few times in this forum but nobody seemed to like the idea.

I'm very interested in how you edited this track.

Good luck! The project looks great!

The Movie Memories audio was planed from the project's start, and was listed in the extras section in the original post. That's the only reason why I did not acknowledge you. But I am not too sure that it works very well as a commentary track.  As an audio book, Shatner does a lot of reading in the 3rd person, and his delivery is very wooden.  It needs major editing, and I need to find the time to work on it more.  I have had the 2 audio books on my PC for close to a year in cut up bits.

  And    

 

And this is different from talking to Shatner how? ;-)

HotRod said:

Not sure if this has been addressed or not!!

 

Now, isn't the SE of this scene wrong?

We see the earlier shot of Luke walking into the chamber and R2 being locked out. No balcony or sunset etc. Then 10 mins later we see our band of heroes and hey, a beautiful sunset view from a balcony.

That pissed me off back in 97, so, Adyman, what you gonna do? Hey dude...What you gonna do???

 

Ha!!

 

;)

You think R2 kept banging his head against the door for 20 minutes?  I'm sure he kept trying different doors to follow Luke. :-P

I love the idea of the Executor hitting an Imperial-class Star Destroyer on its way down or it breaking into pieces a la the Pegusus destruction linked above.

Karyudo said:

Anyone notice that in Ep 14, as we see Ahsoka's shadow slicing up a pair of droids, her lightsaber also casts a shadow? That can't be right...

I noticed that too and cringed.  That doesn't help my "how can something made of light cast a shadow?" argument.

I always assumed that Leia flew close enough to the Executor as to be out of the angle of the tractor beam.  Its the Empire, they assume that everyone will be running away from them.  It's shown multiple times that they have no idea what to do when things come closer or start attacking them.

Also, I'd originally thought that the forced perspective were forced perspective, then figured that because they were so bad, maybe they were just decorations.  Then I see that painting and now know that they are supposed to be forced perspective, and it makes me sad that they weren't done better.

Ah, for what might have been...

FF, I'm wondering if you could contact Darren Doc to maybe render you some new shots for your fan edit, if need be...  He seems to be into that sort of thing.

Moved to http://doubleofive.wordpress.com/rotj-fanedit-wishlist/

Bingowings said:

It might make sense to make a list of all these suggestions for ROTJ like the Adywan's ESB edit: Suggestion Terminal thread.

It's already becoming a bit difficult to follow.

If no one volunteers in the next few days and I can get the time I may well do it myself.

I've got the time.  I'll see what I can do.

Bingowings said:

Monroville said:

adywan said:

On another note, is there any way you could add an opening or access door for the pit crew?  Even as a teenager, I found it kinda goofy that all these people are in these pits with no way to get out.  I mean there should be at least a ladder or something!

 

I know it's not canon or anything but in the Jedi Outcast game you can use the Executor bridge as a location for multi-player fisticuffs.

In that the entrance is on the pit level so the pit techs don't get in the way of the higher officers (there is even a lower level observation deck which is accessed the same way).

I can't find a video of it but it makes sense to me (it also adds a layer of humiliation to Piett being down in the pit looking up at the bounty hunters).

I'm sure someone still has Outcast.  Wait.  I still have Outcast.  If we weren't covered in a Southern Indiana snowstorm, I'd go get it.

I honestly thought that the bridge was where the camera is sitting in this shot:

And as for the who is standing where and at what window, nothing ever seemed off to me.  I am ashamed to call myself a Star Wars fan.  I bow to all of your superior nerddom.

Karyudo said:

doubleofive said:

The episodes are 16:9 (HDTV ratio) originally, not 2:35:1 (film ratio).

I respectfully disagree. I compared screen caps, and the opening of the Sky HD version shows all the stars that CN shows (i.e. full height), plus more on both sides. I sincerely doubt the creators would make a 2.35:1 opening starfield for release to British TV, and then crop the show itself. It's probably possible to confirm this by comparing some shots from the show -- something I might do tonight.

Just because I'm that big a nerd, yo.

So the 16:9 letterbox on the SD channel is actually CROPPED from a 2:35:1 HD master?  That would be weird.  Maybe my CNHD is the same way, but I swear they were really long in the face.

I just checked the Cartoon Network website, and their full episodes are shown in 16:9:

The DVD of episodes that is coming out has them listed as being 16:9 also.

I have a theory.  Maybe the opening starfield on Sky is from the movie which was 2.35:1.  Then the rest in stretched.  I'll have to DVR and compare again, but with pictures (am I nerdy enough to take photos of my TV?  Yes, I am.)

It will be interesting to compare shots from the CN SD, CN HD, and SkyHD.  When does TNT start showing them?  I have them in SD and HD also.

TheHelmetDork said:

Right before Vader's conversation with the Emperor's hologramme/before Vader's flagship went out of the asteroid field for better transmission, there was a Star Destroyer that had one of those big balls destroyed by an asteroid. However the explosion caused looked like a dust explosion or something. What about this?

Don't worry about it my friend, its on the list here:

0:52:16 - When an asteroid hits the command tower on a Star Destroyer, the tower just magically dissolves belong the explosion element

And Adywan has expressed his displeasure with the shot.  By the way, the whole top of the Star Destroyer is blown off, which is why in the next shot there's an officer covering his face as his communication (and his life) ends.

The episodes are 16:9 (HDTV ratio) orignally, not 2:35:1 (film ratio).

I noticed that CN stretches everything on their HD channel (which makes me mad to no end), so when I saw that Clone Wars was "Available in High Definition" I DVRed an episode to see if it was right.  Instead of the 16:9 image that is letterboxed on the SD channel, the HD image was cropped so that most of the letterbox bars were gone, but the image was still stretched and therefore still looked like crap.  I don't get it.  If you get a 16:9 show created in HD, then advertise that it's available in HD, why would you still take the SD signal, crop it badly, then stretch it?  I still DVR the SD version because I'd rather watch the OAR with black bars all the way around than watch ANYTHING stretched at all.

I wrote Cartoon Network about it.  Let's see what they say.

ferris209 said:

Alright, mine's a western. Two middle aged former Texas rangers have a ranch on the border. They decide that they can run a bunch of cattle up north and settle a place up there. Just before they leave, another former Texas Ranger stops by and offers to come along, but little do they know he is wanted out of Arkansas for killing a man who happened to be the brother of the Sheriff in that community. So the old Rangers start out on their journey and many tales can ensue regarding the group. Eventually, one of the old Texas Rangers die from an Indian raid, the other Ranger preserves his body and establishes the ranch. When the ranch in finally settled, he takes the body of the other Ranger back to Texas to be buried by a creek. The kicker is that this could be an EPIC like a trilogy or maybe even four parts. Lots of stories to tell in this one saga. Sounds great don't it.

Movies about baseball never work.

Bingowings said:

seven said:

Since we are on the scene of the three SD's colliding, I thought it would a good time to mention these suggestions (if they haven't been mentioned before).

1. While looking out the front windows of the bridge of the Star Destroyer we should (shouldn't we?) see the main hull of the ship (the nose), but we don't. On the Executor as well, we should most definitely see the hull through the windows since it is much longer.

2. In the interior shot of the Star Destroyers Shield collision, near the bottom of the screen one of the computer console set pieces comes away from the wall and is pushed back into place by the extra.

I must confess to not noticing the wonky console before, perhaps rather than trying to stabilise the console it might be more fun to add some sparks and small explosions to create the impression that the vibration that Ady has so skillfully added has caused real damage to the bridge controls.

Ady's attention to detail continues to amaze me and the new captures look truly incredible.

Keep up the good work.

 

Yes, that's a great idea!

For those making fun of poor ImpFighter, if you think his attention to detail is insane, you haven't seen his shot requests!

7. At 35:48, can you show middle of above shot, just at a point where we only see a part of the Millennium Falcon's rear-half (as it goes offscreen towards us , on the bottom-right of the frame), and where the 'Avenger' has overlapped underneath the other Stardestroyer now, but where TIE laserbolts don't obscure this overlap yet.

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This is just a random example of how exact his descriptions are.  The timing is PAL (wow the movie goes by a lot faster for you guys) and he writes the descriptions from just pausing his DVD player!  I think its impressive that he doesn't even view this stuff side by side, he just remembers what has come before and how it could fit better.

Admittedly, sometimes its a little much, but if he didn't do it, no one else would!

I think Ady should have a contest to see who should dub over the "Two fighters..." line.

Or just let me do it. ;-)

The only way I got rid of that on a computer was to reinstall the OS.  Sorry bud.

Funny story.  This computer had already crashed a couple years ago and they paid a ton of money to get it repaired and lost all of the their personal data.  I opened up the case to see inside and there was their old hard drive, in perfect working order with all of their files on it!  They paid me to fix it and let me keep the hard drive (only 20 GB, but I've been keeping my copies of Revisited on there so my wife doesn't complain about the full main drive).