DarkFather said:I'm in disagreement. I like the first image better because the shadows give the corridor a foreboding mystery.
I think it makes it look like that part of the city is OFF. Like someone forgot to pay the electric bill.
adywan said:Monroville said:Is there any way just to order it from the american website and have it shipped to the UK? Even with a 6% sales tax, it shouldn't come out to more than $636.00. If you have someone over here you know you can trust, if Amazon.com doesn't ship to the Uk someone here could buy it at the cheaper price and then ship it to you. I know that's a big risk, but $636 is a lot better than essentially $1009.85 (at least converted through xe.net)
Also, I take it that the US version is locked at the 24fps rate, or can it be altered between different frame rate settings?
well i had been thinking about that but it really isn't viable for me to do it this way. for one it can be a nightmare to transfer the warranty from the US to the UK and if anything went wrong i would be stuck with a dead machine . many large companies refuse to do humour and American warranty in the UK. Then there's the chance that i get heavily taxed by customs but the main thing is that the NTSC version suffers with the jerky footage when using the 24p mode. The PAL version does suffer with this problem. The thing is that the NTSC machine runs at 30p & 60i. For cinema mode it records at 60i then converts the footage inside the camera in 24p cinema mode which causes the duplicate frames or applied pulldown because 60 is not divisible by 24. now the PAL machine does 25p cinema mode. the cameras main setting record at 25p & 50i. Because of this no extra frames are added so this results in smooth motion. It would be too much hassle trying to figure out a way to remove the duplicate frames from the NTSC model to be able to use the footage. Plus the voltage differences for the power supply is also a problem between our 2 countries.
The Pal machine purchased from a UK company is the only viable option.
I've got down to needing just slightly under £200 to get this machine now. i'm hoping i can get it pretty soon because the place i was going to purchase from have gone down from 6 left in stock to just 4 in less than a day. i guess it being much cheaper than anywhere else means that it isn't going to last at that price for much longer
in regards to me shipping out the workload for the models etc to save money it really doesn't cost me that much to build these things as i have most of the materials i need around the house anyway, plus i love making stuff anyway.
First thing i'm going to do when i get the camcorder is film the new wampa so you can all see what its like and post the first making of video. i'm using my old crappy camcorder to film the step by step building progress of the wampa puppet for this then the finished puppet will be filmed with the HD camcorder and you'll get to see the complete new scene
So do you edit in 25p and then stretch it to 29.98 for us Yanks? The real question is do you work with the sped up audio when you're working on the audio side? Just curious.
vaderios said:doubleofive said:You know, I never noticed that they actually tried to match the damage between movies. It's good to know that somebody was trying to tie together the prequels to the originals
Thats a fact. In ROTS extras they said that ;)
-Angel
That'd be awesome if they had actually rolled their eyes and said exactly that.
Last time I watched the originals straight through, I tried to watch them thinking the whole time about the connections, Hayden behind the mask, etc. etc. It didn't work. No matter how hard I tried, I could not reconcile the prequels with the originals.
Heck, this guy watched them straight through for the first time ever and couldn't do it.
1Shouta said:I just became a Star Wars fan several months ago. I watched them in the numbered order, that's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6.
Besides that, the 2004 SE was the first vesions of the OT I saw, so I have different view on it. But I'm sure that I'd be pretty pissed if I grew up watching a perfect movie and then in the future they completely screw it up.
Even though I've only seen the SE of the OT, after reading about all of this I see what problems the changes I saw were.
Reaction to certain scenes:
A New Hope:
"Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough": Anakin didn't even know he had a son...
Jabba/Han scene: I imagined Han's boss to be a bit...different
Luke's falcon training: Isn't he supposed to have a blue lightsaber?
Obi-Wan vs Darth Vader: Wonder why Obi-Wan calls him, "Darth"...
Empire Strikes Back:
Luke & Leia kiss: Wait, didn't Padme name her babies Luke & Leia?
Yoda's appearance: Did...is Yoda on drugs or something? And his voice got...heavier
Cloud City entrance: I seriously doubt that this scene was in the original version...
Vader/Emperor scene: Palpatine looks exactly the same as he did in Episode III. Don't people age?
"I am your father": I already suspected this in either one of the movies since it's probably the most heard quote
Return Of The Jedi:
Jabba's appearance: *just realizes that Episode I had Jabba* Alright, Episode IV CG Jabba officially sucks. This is much better.
Leia says she remembers her mother: BULL. SHIT.
Palpatine's appearance: He looks like he lost weight compared to Episode III & V...
Unmasking scene: If Anakin was burned, why does he only have burn marks on the side of his cheek?
Anakin/Obi-Wan/Yoda final scene: Why is Anakin just looking around everywhere?
My dad's reaction to the final scene: Who's that guy on the left?
Now typing this out helps me see why the PT kinda ruined the OT.
This point of view is rarely heard in these forums. We've known these movies our whole lives, and the PT and SE are some kind of outside force trying to change what we think about the OT. It's nice to see that even people watching them straight through for the first time can see the complete lack of care for the OT in the PT and SE.
Thanks for sharing!
You know, I never noticed that they actually tried to match the damage between movies. It's good to know that somebody was trying to tie together the prequels to the originals
rcb said:i know this is out of topic here, but i was watching ESB earlier and i was wondering if
we could update the radars in echo base like ady did in ANHR with yavin base with the
deathstar deal. its somewat believable, but nothing moves on them and when han
finds leia with general reiken in the control room. when a blast comes the panales
wobbled back and forth like plastic or something. anyway to improve that.
How is that off topic? They were discussing international shipping! :-P
TMBTM said:That would be kind of neat actually. It would be spooky.
I kind of agree, just for a second, then after a blink, back to normal.
Like someone else pointed out, Anakin only had Sith Eyes after marching on the Jedi Temple, killing younglings, and wiping out the entire Seperatist leadership. I don't think Luke was that angry.
Besides, Adywan said that he'll probably be getting rid of those Sith Eyes anyway, so no luck adding them in here.
FanFiltration said:doubleofive said:Are you going to be fixing visual mistakes when you do your fan edit?
Most definitely!
Awesome. Do you have a list you're going to be working off of?
vaderios said:I want.....
...Cookies :)
-Angel
Now THAT looks like someone who was burned half to death and hasn't seen a sun in 20 years!
FanFiltration said:Wookie Ookie said:It just dawned on me tonight as I was looking through some of my assorted Trek claptrap, that Nimoy, Takei, Nichols, and Koenig all have autobiographies with audio versions. I haven't listened to them in quite a while, but I am pretty sure at least Nimoy and Koenig had some decent discussion of their STTMP experiences. Have you had an opporunity to listen to any of those, Mr. FanFiltration? The versions I have are on audio cassette (which I suspect is the only way they were released back in the late '90s).
This sounds like a great idea, but right now this project is far too overloaded with extras. I'm going to first release my Special Longer edit with most of the extras I have ready now. In a few months I will release my fan edit of The Motion Picture, and at that time we can include more extras such as the one you suggested above.
FF
Are you going to be fixing visual mistakes when you do your fan edit?
sketchrob said:Merry Christmas to you Ady, that should take care of it :)
I hope sketchrob gets his own line in the credits for this.
720p, newly filmed footage, physical models, and a possible documentary?
This is the best day since ANHR was released.
Awesome news about the 720p! Higher quality is always better. The slug looks better also, really like the new Falcon not flying in a straight line.
A suggestion just hit me yesterday that I've wanted to see forever, but completely forgot:
In the carbon freezing chamber, the following dialog takes place according to the script:
VADER: Calrissian, take the princess and the Wookiee to my ship.
LANDO: You said they'd be left in the city under my supervision.
VADER: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
Lando's hand instinctively goes to his throat as he turns
to Leia, Chewie, and Threepio.
I always thought that maybe Lando didn't have to do this instinctively, but Vader gives him a little squeeze in anger. I'd love to hear a little of the Force Choke Rumble under the word "pray", just to make Lando not look like he's just scratching his throat.
I love it, love it, love it, love it. The whole thing. From Luke's shock at another Death Star on the horizon to Piett (who I've always liked) sacrificing himself and the Executor to save everyone.
I would love to see this come to fruition in RotJR. I haven't been this excited about the project since I realized that we had the power to remove Boba Fett and kill off Lando. I wish we could kill off a major character earlier in the movie to give the rest some added danger.
darthmilo77 said:C3PX said:Nope. Idea is all yours if you want it.
This would be a cool Youtube film. I'd love to see an IG droid going around with a phone book page in his hand killing off every Shimi Skywalker on the entire planet. If I had the animation skills, I'd totally do it. Though if that South Park episode has any shred of reality to it whatsoever, it seems it is pretty much impossible to get those youtube guys to pay up, and when they do it is only in theoretical dollars.
Hello! I'm new to this forum, but I've been reading it for a while, and I stumbled across this idea today.
I'm a partner on YouTube (what with the revenue sharing and all) and have the time and resources to make this in stop-motion with Legos. Maybe we could all work something out?
Stop-motion LEGO would be the perfect medium for this project!
Here's my mockup:
About halfway through, I noticed that due to the direction of the ships that it should be the DS2 in this shot (there was nothing there originally). But it does get the thought across.
vaderios said:Suggestions of how the death stars should look.
Give me some info to bother my head :)
-Angel
So if I understand it right, the Emperor's is complete (using images from ANH) and comes around the moon and starts shooting (it could even be smaller like the DS1 since it got completed faster), while Jejerrod's half-complete one (the DS2) is the bait. Piett smashes the Executor into the DS1 which due to its smaller size is destroyed and Lando blows up the DS2 as its about to fire on Endor.
Shouldn't be too hard to throw together some mock-ups, vaderios. I have some ideas and if I can find the right shots online, I'll do some of my own.
Bingowings said:In the original treatment for Revenge Of The Jedi there were TWO Death Stars being built as seen in this production painting :
It might also be a fun addition to an alternative version to have Jejerrod being presurred into completing one Death Star (the one the Rebels know about) but the Emperor overseeing the construction of a different Death Star.
The audience is lead to expect that they are the same Death Star until Luke notices when looking out of the window as the station moves that the battlestation he is now on is not the one that the battle is taking place near.
Moving the line "you have paid the price for your lack of vision" so it takes place before "the Alliance will die" would add a heck of a punch to Luke's near flip to the dark side.
It would also add weight to the Emperor's line "We are quite safe from your friends here".
This one is mobile and is moved into the battle once the Rebels are pinned in between the other Death Star and the fleet.
The Emperor orders Jejerrod to fire from his Death Star while the other moves in and fires into the battle from the other side.
"There are too many of them!" can now be replaced with a line from TPM "Now there are two of them!" .
Because Lando has moved the Rebel fleet close to the Imperial one almost as many Imperial ships are being destroyed by the Death Stars as Rebel ships because the gunners can't pick a target.
Piett finally has had enough of Sith Lords and orders an attack on the second Death Star and rams into the uncomplete section (after the Emperor has been killed) so now the Executor goes down for a very good reason (saving the Admiral's fleet) and peace between the Imperials and the Rebels is more believable because during the battle they both end up fighting on for their lives against a common enemy.
Jejerrod seeing the end is up tries to turn his Death Star onto the forest moon, wiping out both the Rebels and the mutineers but the Rebels destroy the reactor before this can be accomplished.
These changes are a bit out there but they would make the film much more different than just a rehash of ANH and a bit closer to what Jedi originally was going to be.
That actually might work. It would be hard, but it just might.
vaderios said:AxiaEuxine said:BTW Vaderios what are you using to capture screenshots?
VLC Player---> Video---> Snapshot :)
Misplace of saber blade :)
Edit: Here is my idea. It have more danger and sense that the dude who pop up from jabba's ship actually try to shoot luke.
And....
Who cares about jedi training and the force...
One red bu.... I mean liquid schwartz can give you wings :)
-Angel
Good idea on the middle one, hilarious about the bottom one. But the top one has something that doesn't need to be there. I'd love to see how you get rid of the Fett.
AxiaEuxine said:OK I was kind of skimming through this thread and dont really want to read 1,000,000 posts. Whats with this lightsaber blade color thing? Why change all the prequel blades? Thats a horrible idea.
They're just throwing around ideas. Mostly that maybe the New Jedi Order should have green blades, the first being Luke's. Originally Luke's lightsaber was going to be blue, so that shows that at one point there were only supposed to be two colors, blue and red. Maybe all Jedi were supposed to have blue sabers?
But that boat has sailed. Jedi have all the colors of the rainbow, and I think we should keep it that way.
SomethingStarWarsRelated said:Bingowings said:If it could be done I'd try dubbing Yoda's repeat of his first lesson to Luke while he is dying so instead of saying "Once you start down the Dark path etc..." He says the lines from ROTS "Rejoice for those around you who transform into the Force. Mourn them do not" (it may be impossible to modulate and break up the line to get that near death performance but I'll give it a go).
Yoda is sensing that Luke's doubts are growing now that he is losing his teacher, Ben later reminds him not to underestimate Vader and the Emperor.
Luke got the dark path lesson in ESB he hasn't received that nugget of wisdom from Yoda yet and it would be a sensible parallel with Anakin's fear of losing his wife and Luke's fear of losing his sister being the pivots on which their anger and potential to do evil balance.
Woah...this could be a good idea...hmmm
Its a shame a bunch of fans sitting in a forum had to come up with that connection.
That's awesome.
Bingowings said:TLSO said:Haha I actually figured that would happen to me. :P Only I was on Ubuntu, and I was too lazy to boot Windows so I could tool around in PhotoShop.
I'm pretty close to doubling up onto Ubuntu myself after seeing the better half having such a great time with it.
There is a lot of great free software on that system.
Photoshop is the only thing keeping me on Windows at home. I don't play my PC games anymore.
ChainsawAsh said:The problem with that is the font. When I change the font size, the lines get smaller. I haven't found a good workaround for this. I do know exactly what you mean though, I thought the same thing as I was making them.
Do you have the font in solid? Cause then you could just type it out and select the outline and contract the selection however many pixels you need. Or visa versa. That would make them all the same size.
EDIT: I experimented for too long with it and didn't reply fast enough. Glad to know I was trying to do it right.
