That shouldn't stop you from doing what you can to show us how you could unite the backgrounds. I think it would be hard because you'd have to do the mountains and stuff from so many different angles.
No adding Yavin to the background to tie up the directions, eh?
It may already have been taken care of, you never know with Ady. Also, I'm sure he'd want to do them himself, because he's like that.
Good lord. Seriously, I just follow his directions to find the screenshots. I had no idea what he was going for through any of that. It's all good stuff!
But look at all the different colors of AT-ATs and sky in those shots! Each one is different, like taking place on different days even!
Even the same walker has four completely different backgrounds in a few seconds!
vaderios said:Interesting... i never saw the forest color correction as a saturation boost.
Ok next time i will tone the things down a bit ;P
-Angel
Edit:
1st Frame: my color corection
2nd Frame: Desaturation -25%
3d Frame: Desaturation -35%
4th Frame: Desaturation -40%
5th Frame: Original
I thought your original was a bit too green, but I like the 40 or 35 the best in this line up. Much better than 2004!
Sojourn said:Congratulations on the camera, ady (man, you got me, too!)! I know I haven't really been vocal much recently (work has been a little hectic), but I've caught up on the past week or two of posts, and it looks like things are moving along splendidly. I'm going to need to dig deeper back to find the source of all this shooting-new-sequences talk so I can figure out exactly what you're going to be doing, but I'm looking forward to seeing what comes of it! And, as before, if you need some help, let me know.
Take care,
Sojourn
Here is Ady's list of new things he needs to film.
adywan said:oh yeh, did i forget to mention that its out of stock because i purchased the last one? lol. I'm just awaiting the site to process the order now
You... That was mean! I'm so glad everything worked out. Now for them to actually ship it to you. Of course, they can take a while, you've got some models to build! :-D
Darth Bos Pity said:One last thing Ady, why are you using Boba's original voice, as much as i like it, he is a clone & should have the same voice as his Dad (himself), & the 2004 "Alert my star destroyer to prepare for my arrival" is much beter than "Bring my shuttle", granted he sounds more p****d off, but i prefere it personally, & i don't see the need to remove the Imperial shuttle docking with the SSD, it looks cool, & isn't out of place, why did you decide to do this?
Great work truly great work, i enjoyed ANH:R & Sketch thank you very much, unbelievable tht you would donate to this project!
For the voicework, it comes down to the actors. Morrison literally did his over the phone, and there is no way that Vader's line came from "a deleted scene from A New Hope". As for the shuttle, its pacing. We assume that Vader makes it back to the ship and focus on the escape in 1980. Now we take random breaks from the action to see that, yes, Vader does make it to his ship, and gets off to talk to the same people that great him at the start of the next movie.
I think they are welcome reversions.
Grythandril said:It seems Lucas like to flip scenes around and hope no one will notice.
followed by
I am assuming correctly that these scenes are flipped again.
I was going to start crying that you keep pointing out new flaws, but I pointed this out a long time ago, and I think Ady said he was doing something about it.
So that's good.
TMBTM said:The red glow in the AT-AT interiors. Thanks for doing that mock-up. that has really helped put my point across that adding red lighting to the interiors will look fake. This is really something that doesn't need doing.
NooooOOOooooo! :( ;)
Just kidding, while I really like the idea and the mock-up, it would probably be a bit distracting inside the movie, indeed.
(But to be 100% logic, if you don't add that red light to the interior, it shoud be erased from the exterior of the AT-AT... but it would probably be too much work for such a detail anyway)
That's the plan!
Awesome to hear that you liked the ion cannon concept, and indeed, most of the concepts that vaderios and Bingo have been throwing around. Hopefully you like some of the RotJ stuff they've been throwing around also.
What about Vader's Force choke of Lando? I know its not important, but I'd love to know if things I've come up with (Rebel Transport jumping to hyperspace, etc) actually might make it into the final cut... I'm just being selfish realy. :-)
I'm still more for saving it for Vader's distress at Luke's suicide attempt.
;-)
Kurtyboy said:adywan said:I'm also going to be building a new wampa head with horns, shoulders & arms to replace the original puppet. this way i can also replace the weird looking wampa shot as it lunges at luke in the cave. I'm starting work on that later in the week so as soon as that is finished i will post some photos.
Have you thought of getting in touch with someone who has built various Wampas in the past? Such as Tom Spina whom I know from The Replica Props Forum http://www.tomspinadesigns.com/Sculpture.html. Scroll down to the sixth row. I also remember he built a full size Wampa a while back.
Wow, that guys really good. I wonder if Ady could borrow some stuff from him, like the Wampa, or that Jabba and Max Rebo Band. Wish they were puppets though...
Watched an episode on TNT HD, and its 16:9 too. Still strange that both HD channels in the US and the DVD sets are showing them in 16:9 but they're 2.35:1 in England. What is the purpose of doing that?
I have the same problem with Star Trek Remastered. CBS Digital rendered all of the new FX shots in 16:9, but the last time I checked the only way to see the shots in that ratio were on Xbox LIVE where the live action is 4:3 and the effects are 16:9. CBS.com, iTunes, HD DVD, DVD, Blu Ray, they're all in 4:3 exclusively. Why work so hard on something no one is going to be able to see?
vaderios said:doubleofive said:It'd be hard/impossible for us to all be filmed at just the right angle and keep it the same for everyone all over the world. But it would be cool to try.
For me you can put a mockup in the movie like in the ANH that ILM put a playboy in the tantive's cockpit. ;P
-Angel
I'll be disappointed if one of your mockups/mattes isn't IN the movie. As for me, I just want to know if I pointed out something that otherwise wouldn't have been changed, and knowing that it was me who suggested it.
It'd be hard/impossible for us to all be filmed at just the right angle and keep it the same for everyone all over the world. But it would be cool to try.
Also it would be cool if we all could do our own blue screen shots and Ady matte us all working on the ships. That would be awesome. Everyone from the boards in cameos in one scene.
I think Adywan plans for an all new matte. Not sure if he'll use the live action boxes there, but that would be awesome. Seeing how Adywan is getting the HD camera, I wouldn't be surprised if he built a model docking bay and ships to go in it.
Either way, I think if we do mockups for the docking bay, we should be matteing AROUND the live action shots.
Love the new video, but its hard looking for things subtracted from the movie! LOL
Why on earth would they have worked so hard on transparent shadows? I mean, someone had to have looked at that while they were doing it and said "hey, this doesn't seem right..."
Great work, as usual. Glad to know that Luke's bobbing head is gone. It was one of those things I always noticed after it being pointed out.
They can sqeeze two discs into a digipak now. It's quite impressive.
Fang Zei said:-saving all the old VFX elements: they're right about that. Any making-of on the SE will mention this.
I wish he would open source all of these elements and let someone with the time and patience re-composite the whole movie. All I can see now is transparency!
mrbenja0618 said:I'm personally looking forward to the Taun Taun action figure complete with gutted belly!
I have the vintage Taun Taun with the open belly you could stick Luke in. Admittedly, it didn't have guts that spilled out, but that wouldn't be too hard. :-P
Are you going to be working from the 16:9 Cartoon Network version, or the 2.35:1 SKYHD version?
AxiaEuxine said:Just becuase you all hate the prequels and anything else that came out post 83 doesnt mean you shouldnt still enjoy whatever is left. I for one think theyve ruined the Bond franchise with the last two movies. Are they decent spy movies? Sure but they arent Bond movies. I still enjoy the movies that came before though. Im not going to let the fact that holloywood needed to gut the franchise of any Bond like things to make ordinary spy movies that appealed to a wider audience stop me from enjoying Goldeneye and any other Bond movie.
So just becuase you think Star Wars went in some direction you didnt care for dont let it stop you from enjoying A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, three of the best movies ever made.
Then there are some people like me who couldn't get into Bond before the new movies (my screenname is from my GoldenEye 007 on N64 days, still haven't seen the movie), but I'm at least willing to give all of them a shot now. It doesn't make the point this thread is trying to get to, but I'm sure some people got into Star Wars through the prequels.
I think if Lucas really had all of the VFX elements, he should have actually gone through and recomposited EVERYTHING. There are way too many transparent mattes that could be elminated 100% if he actually had them. I'm sure he still has the CG files, but this whole thing comes from a post on a thread.
I don't think Lucas has the original VFX. It may not be true, but that's what I think.
