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JediMasterFisher said:

AxiaEuxine said:

I tried to view the RotJ footage with the prequelesque lightsaber sound but it was gone. I did check out a similar video of part of Empire's fight with new lightsaber sound FX and I REALLY, REALLY like the idea. Makes the lightsabers sound more powerful and I am all for that. Adywan you should check that out.

Definitely add the scar.

and last but not least no more additional ghosts. Luke doesnt know them. And I think a Hayden blend into Shaw ghost for the the rest of it. But thats just me.

Thats why Qui-Gon should appear after Luke has looked away. THe audience will know him and Luke doesnt have to be confused and bam! connection of the triologies. Also I do like the idea of Hayden turing into Shaw or the other way around.

I don't think Shaw or Hayden need to morph either way.  Neither one of them will be recognizable to Luke anyway and the audience should assume he aged as opposed to wondering why Anakin got to keep his young body in the afterlife and Obi-wan has to be old.

Unless everyone morphs from their old versions to their Episode III versions.  That sounds like something Lucas would have done, and I'm honestly surprised he didn't. 

Again, I think adding Qui-Gon is adding things for the sake of adding them.  If LUCAS showed enough restraint not to do it, I think we should also.

Octorox said:

You could always have Qui-Gon appear over Obi's shoulder after Luke looks away in a second shot.

And Obi-wan turn around and give him a high five?

I missed that ion cannon shot.  Holy crap, thats so clear!  Are you going to be using Vaderios' element in these scenes?

adywan said:

Another little fix....

as for the blockade i will be adding a couple of extra stardestroyers to the initial approach and a disabled stardestroyer in the background during Lukes escape but what i was saying was that Luke could easily slip away unchallenged because its just one fighter and a transport did leave just before he escaped so any remaining stardestroyers (which would only be one or two at the most) would be concentrating on the larger ships, so no need to add loads of stardestroyers for that scene. After all Luke is going in a completely different direction than the rebels so he most likely leaves in the opposite direction so you wouldn't see all the disabled stardestroyers which seem to concentrate above the rebel base on the other side of the planet.

 

 

Awesome.  From toned down lightsabers (which Vaderios is pointing out in the "ESB and ROTJ Wish List" will be a huge pain in RotJR) to a disabled Star Destroyer as Luke is leaving.  Sweet action.

Adding Hayden to RotJ was already the best definition of "just because you can do something doesn't mean you should."  Adding thousands of other Jedi would change the ending of RotJ significantly and make it look less like "the redemption of Anakin Skywalker" and more like "the redemption of Jedi as a whole", which is not the point of the saga by any definition.

My story is the my similar thread I started a while back: A Long Time Ago... - Share Your Star Wars Story.

darth_scourge said:

ImperialFighter said:

vaderios said:

Hmm Oups?

-Angel

 

 

The shot on the left is from the '04 DVD and was given the altered BG for the '97 SE. The shot on the right is the BG from the OUT. Clearly someone from Lucas farked up during the SE - unheard of isn't it? I'm sure Ady can clean this up very easily. I like Imperialfighters suggestions for improving the detail on the set.

The left shot was added for the SE?  I haven't watched the OUT since 1997, but that doesn't seem right.

Monroville said:

Okay, my bad.  Regardless, there are the links.

Did I mention I didn't get to sleep until 4 am?

No big deal, man.  Get some rest!  We need you.

Monroville said:

Ladies and Gents, we are forgetting something here:

There is a completely different thread for all of this ANH:R stuff!  The past 20 PAGES have been about ANH:R!  While I feel the same way and love the edit, there is a different place to:

(1) spread the love

(2) ask for download links, references, clues, etc

(3) discuss any problems with edit, downloading said edit, etc.

This is supposed to be strickly regarding the EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: REVISITED edit and suggestions as to how to do that edit if Ady wants to consider them (by strickly I mean how a football stadium is strickly for football: still plenty of room to move around in, but still all about football or some other sporting activity other than racing cars).

Again, I know I'm being an ass here, but the bigger this thread gets with things unrelated to what it is supposed to be, the harder it is going to be for Ady to sift through the posts and check them out.  Save the JEDI:REVISITED stuff for that thread when it's posted AFTER EMPIRE:REVISITED is finished and available for download. 

And Vaderios!  Where've you been!  We miss you!

Quoting this before Monroville realizes what thread he posted this in.  The past 270 pages have been about ANHR for the simple reason that this is the ANHR thread.

Hehe...

Ziz said:

Bingowings said:

...not the umpty thrumpty zillion times....

How many 0's is that?

 

All of them.

Wasn't it Lucas' swimming pool?  Or am I thinking of Jaws when they find the fisherman's boat....

Like everything in the prequels except for Obi-wan having Anakin for an apprentice and there being "Clone Wars" was made up in the 1990s and onward, if that early.

He heads towards one of the disabled ones?  ImperialFighter's idea.

I love you all.  That pandown is incredible.  Yes, animate that GIF!

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

Sorry for the delay! You'll have to forgive these old jpegs and the image size...I actually made these a long time ago...

Ok, and this was another image I had made with a little description below...I still think the idea is worth considering...  :)

Poor Frank.  Now that his head has been exposed, it must be eliminated!

I never liked that Luke manages to cut off the ice around his feet and not cut his feet off!  How does that work?

corellian77 said:

Well, I've been away for quite awhile, and I see it's cost me dearly... 248 pages to wade through???  Frak me.

Ady, sorry to rehash this (I looked back a few pages and couldn't see where the debate began)... but which scene in ESB has the spinning starfield?  Is it at the end when the Falcon finally jumps into hyperspace?

For what my 2 cents are worth, I'm not sure what the inconsistency/problem is with the spinning starfield.  I always assumed the ships in SW spun when they entered hyperspace... that's why, when seeing a jump from a ship's point of view, the stars spin, and why when a ship's in hyperspace (e.g., ROTJ, ANH:R) we see that wormhole effect (caused, I thought, by the stars spinning by).

But... that being said, who's really going to miss it (aside from Jeyl, of course)?  If I read the posts correctly, you apparently removed a spin effect from ANH already?  If so, I didn't even notice, so... there ya go :)

The spin is only when the Falcon jumps away from the Star Destroyers over Tatooine and the Executor over Bespin.  Adywan points out that when Tydirium goes to light speed in RotJ it goes straight out and the fleet does not spin around it.  The spinning starfield is for dramatic effect in those two shots by Lucas' own admission.

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

Ady, I don't believe I've this has been mentioned yet:

In the introduction of Yoda scene there are one or two shots where you can see Frank Oz's head. Somewhere around the time he's eating Luke's food and messing around with R2. If you need me to I'll post screen caps...

Please do!  I've never heard that.

Honestly, I'm not sure about those particular eyelids.  Blinking, yes, but Greedo in ANHR didn't look so stoned. ;-)

Looks like Erikstormtrooper still has it up.

Here they are!  mos_eisley_mixdown_layers.zip

I'd love to see a step by step on how he does some things, but I've studied his single Photoshop file from ANHR's Ronto removal and I still don't know how he did it!

Nice.  Very nice.

I don't think we should ignore the idea that "blue = electricity" just because the EU thought the same way.  Besides, in all of those sources (besides TCW) its a blue laser identical to the red/green lasers.  I'm sure that Ady's version isn't just a recolored blast, but might actually look like compressed electricity, which would be awesome.  The fact that they are blue are coincidences.

bkev said:

Vaderios, like the shield generator in the new matte - but it just looks so ... blurry... right now.  Just some C&C.

I think its blurry to show that the camera is moving along with the ship.  I'm imagining the camera panning up from the trees to see the generator in the distance, then the shuttle flies past the camera.

I got the RiffTrax for A New Hope so I had to watch the 04 version this weekend.  I keep adding my own quips about the terrible color (facetones in the Death Star conference room looked like they were all getting choked!) and my wife kept complaining about the unbalanced sound.  The RiffTrax was great by the way.  For those of you worried that they blaspheme the movie, they really don't.  Most of the jokes are making fun of the prequels and the SE additions.  Well worth the money, and its another reason besides making this edit "legal" for keeping the DVD.

skyjedi2005 said:

The 2004 special editions and greedo shooting first 1997 versions of star wars should be made fun of but only the new scenes added.  The old original trilogy stuff is good imho, okay maybe the ewoks in jedi deserve ridicule on Lucas part just like Jar Jar. But to me the Worst change of all was Hayden in Return of the Jedi. Oh and of course George had to put Jar Jar saying weesa freeee!.

I don't know if anyone actually got this, but I did this weekend it was hilarious.  A great deal of the jokes were about the Special Edition (upon entering Mos Eisley "Oh so this is what Mos Eisley looks like! Boy the movie wouldn't have made any sense without these shots" "Yeah, no one would have liked it ever!"; "It's great that Lucas could realize his vision for this scene: out of focus brontosaurus butt.").  A whole bunch of them were about the prequels (And this is my counterpart R2D2: "I stood by your mother as she died."; "Luke's laying the sand!  His father would have hated that!")

The scariest joke came shortly after the crawl ended: "My question is, how are you watching this DVD when you told everyone online you were gonna throw it out and only keep the theatrical version, huh?"  It's like they're watching us...  Hi Mike!