doubleofive

So, I guess the easiest way to fix the exterior/interior lattice problem is delete the structure on top of the exterior shot so the top is just flat, as one of the mockups showed.

And I hate to question you Ady, but are you sure that's where the window is:

I mean, the lighting must be all kinds of messed up since the shadows are on the back wall at the beginning, and now on the front or side?

EDIT: It looks like the corridor appeared along the back wall.  If you look at the shadows across the wall decor, they match perfectly with the establishing shot.  Maybe just insert that corridor in the first shot?

A comparison, thanks to that ridiculous screenshot archive:

And the official GOUT/DVD comparison:

Looking at the screencaps, the duel is over by the time the shield is down.  Unless you put big ships behind Vader and the Emperor during the most climatic moment in the saga, we can't have the ships get much closer than they are currently.  Too bad.

Really, the more I look at the shot where you can see the battle, the more it makes sense to leave it the way it is.

At this point, the Rebel fighters are just starting to be attacked by the TIEs, and the SDs aren't doing anything.  Even the angle might be right.  I'm not 100% sure as I'm not that good with the 3 dimension thinking required, but I think it does work the way it is.

Impressive, someone might have actually thought all this through when they made it! ;-)

vaderios said:

Btw i have a question. In the matter how close should be the space battle as we see it from the Emperor's throne room windows, some state that the battle should be close but not so close because of the deathstar shield.The question well is how we see the tie fighters taking a fly by in the establishing shot of the Tower and not hitting the shield?

 

-Angel

I think it should be a bit closer (not them flying past the windows, obviously), until the shields drop and the ships get bigger and bigger as they head closer to bombard the surface.

adywan said:

You have almost got it word for word with what i will be doing with that scene. The only thing really different is this line:

-2004: We have a new enemy, (camera front view of Emperor) the young rebel who destroyed the Death Star. (camera front view of Vader from the shoulders up) I have no doubt this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker. (camera front view of Emperor)

I will be changing this line to just "young Skywalker". I would have preferred it to be "Luke Skywalker" but no where in the saga does the Emperor say "Luke"

Found it from back in Febuary.  In order to change "We have a new enemy, the young rebel that destroyed the Death Star. I have no doubt this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker" (gracious is Ian wordy!) to "We have a new enemy: Luke Skywalker", Ady takes the "young" from rebel, and combines it with Skywalker from "Anakin Skywalker", almost completely undoing the terrible choice of Anakin not recognizing that he could have kids at all even though he's been calling him "Skywalker" all movie.

DarthRayne said:

Why would he prefer using Luke's name?

The goal is to modify the 2004 Ian McDiarmond to say exactly what the 1980 Clive Revill did.  The only element missing is an appropriate "Luke" for the "we have a new enemy" part.

I misread the first post that the movie was only going to be 12 minutes long, as it would be only the parts his parents were paying attention to, if you take my meaning.  Born in 1978, TheBoost?

;-)

I had to explain it when I showed a friend some comparison shots from the board.  I didn't even think about it.

Sluggo said:

Bingowings said:

Dangerous Incorporated said:

DarkFather said:

Darth Vader really owes Ady a beer for fixing his wobbly helmet.

Vader drinks Sithweiser's!

 

This may have been answered but is Bobba voice staying the same as it originally did or is it staying the same as the 04 version?

I thought he would drink a pint of John Sith's.

 

 

 He has been known to down a Guinness from time to time.

Sluggo wins.  Game over.

Bingowings said:

Another suggestion that seems to have slipped off the wish list is the AT-AT in the ground battle idea, I'd love to see some Ewok traps for that monster.

Forest Moon of Endor:

    16. Add AT-AT to ground battle.

It's still there! ;-)

ben_danger said:

what do you think about adding statues or sculptued mural perhaps? like the ones from his office, to just link the two locations a bit more.

I like that idea.

Ripplin said:

doubleofive said:

Ripplin said:

Bingowings said:

doubleofive said:

Didn't phrase it right.  Will fix it.

F.A.B.

Nice one, Mr. Tracy. :)

I kinda like that suggestion of having the Emperor laugh as he falls to his death. He's such a loony, it seems appropriate. The idea of Piett turning is neat, too. Definitely a radical change, but probably no more radical than some of the things Ady has planned for the PT.

I have no idea what you guys are talking about.  :-P

"And you never shall! Ha ha haaaaa..."

My Googlefu did bring up Thunderbirds, but I still don't understand...  But its not important, way off topic.

Anything else on the Wishlist I forgot or need to rephrase?

Jedi Dark Knight said:

I was checking the uploaded bits found in the first page, and maybe this has been mentioned before but it appears the wampa scene has been deleted altogether. Now I don't care much about the furball but the important revelation of Luke "relaxing into the force" to force-pull the lightsaber to show how intuitively he is learning to use the Force is lost, and also more important than anything is the "Luke, you must go to the Dagobah system"....without this order you never know why would Luke go separate ways than the rest of the alliance...it creates a plot-hole

That particular clip was a selection of changed shots, not a full segment.  No worries.  He's just cutting the Special Edition Wampa parts.

Ripplin said:

Bingowings said:

doubleofive said:

Didn't phrase it right.  Will fix it.

F.A.B.

Nice one, Mr. Tracy. :)

I kinda like that suggestion of having the Emperor laugh as he falls to his death. He's such a loony, it seems appropriate. The idea of Piett turning is neat, too. Definitely a radical change, but probably no more radical than some of the things Ady has planned for the PT.

I have no idea what you guys are talking about.  :-P I will however add the Emperor laugh to the list.

Didn't phrase it right.  Will fix it.

I added Monroville's suggestions to the master list.  We're getting a lot of good ideas, but nothing excites me more than the possiblity of the Redemption of Piett.  Something about every Imperial not being 100% evil, especially the one in charge of the biggest ship ever.

Jedi Dark Knight said:

adywan said:

damn, i don't want to even think about the DVD structure yet. I'm only half way through the film. lol

 

hahahaha yeah, it must be a pain to think about things so far ahead. You mention that you are halfway throught the film does that mean that the Rebel Escape from Hoth will receive any updates? as of now there are shots where it seems there's only one SD around the planet and supposedly the entire fleet was around Hoth....hence Luke escapes so easily, when he leaves you don't see any ships there!

You have been gone a while.  Check out ION CANNON from the front page.  And be sure to check out the new screenshots up there.

Gaffer Tape said:

Yes, it does.  And that's one of my main annoyances with these and every other Star Wars DVD that's ever been made.  It's especially a problem because the subtitles appear in the matte instead of the actual film.  The matte doesn't exist in context of the film.  It's simply there to take up space!  Therefore, information pertinent to the film shouldn't be in something that's essentially a black hole.  But it's there because Lucasfilm is filled with incompetent bastards.  I have noticed that the prequel DVDs play with the subtitles in the frame proper when I play it on my widescreen computer, but it's still that shitty, jagged DVD-produced font that's just playing over the film rather than in it.  Geez, Lucasfilm is so stupid.

Guess it makes it easier to do foreign versions.  I also like the option to not have the words on the screen at all.

adywan said:

Just a quick update....

I've fixed Vader's helmet wobble on the vane. It was a real pain to do and a few sleepless nights.

Wow.  I didn't think it was necessary or even possible, but I'm sure the others will appreciate it.  You certainly are some kind of miracle worker!

mrbenja0618 said:

Wow, I must have missed a post or two... Ady's shooting new Vader footage?

That's the plan, so far.  We are like 5 or 6 years away from even thinking about RotS:R.

HotRod said:

Sevb32 said:

Yes that's perfect! Thanks! Is there a way you could get several hi res stills of the SE Cloud City fly thru until it lands, I don't need the close up where it lands, but at least 3 or 4 shots of it on it's way to landing. Especially when in just passes that largest/highest building.

 

Just noticed another window in the dining room scene to the right of Vader's head! Seen below

http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/celluloid_jam/Screen_Captures/Star_Wars_ESB/ESB_500-999/?action=view&current=SW5ESB_960.jpg

 

Did Ady mention if he was going to give any eye, nose or mouth articulation to Bossk or the Ugnaughts as he did in the ANH Cantina? Especially Bossk since he gets a good close up.

 

Dude, have you screen capped every part of the film??

That's um, pretty awesome.

BarBar Jinkx said:

adywan said:

again interesting but this would be an unnecessary addition

May I suggest using that as the backround for the chapter selection page on the DVD!

 

its to damn good to go to waste ADY

I agree, I think some of Vaderios' mockups should be menus on the DVD.  This one, the shot of Veers standing alone, just subtle movements added or something.  It'd be awesome.

It's been a few days.  I've been reading, but since I can't yet comment from my iPod I've been silent.  The most recent thing seems to be the Falcon flying up and out when the finally go to lightspeed.  I've always liked this.  I think its like they program the computer where they want to go, and it automatically points them in the right direction instead of just going really fast straight forward.  It also helps explain why everyone falls over and R2 rolls back into the hole when no one really seems to notice when they just go to lightspeed when they're already pointing in the right direction.

Just my thoughts.

I was thinking about creating an OriginalTrilogy.com "Page" on Facebook for people on Facebook to "fan", but I didn't want to do it without Jay's blessing.  Is this even a good idea, since it might provide real faces for the government to crack down on?

vaderios said:

My turn,

-Angel

Nice!  I tried to isolate Veers in light, as if there was a spotlight shining only on him, but I don't think it came across just right.