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vaderios said:

Tie fighters? How about Republic Cruisers? and Hellfire droids and an army of Stormies?And droid spiders? And Landed Star destroyers? lol J/k

 

For what reason? i mean after the shields are down Tie fighter must take action to eliminate the remains or shoot escaping vehicles ;)

 

-Angel

You misread, Angel.  We were discussing the added CGI TIEs in ANHR, not adding TIEs to the Hoth battle.

InfoDroid said:

adywan said:

also the whole continuity problems will mean that unless i can get new shots of the ESB AT-ST to insert into this sequence, then it will have to go from the shot where luke looks up to see the AT-AT explode. One minute its there and the next its gone

Is there any way to create a new shot with 3-D models?  Similar to the way you added the TIE fighters in ANH?

Its the walking animation that no one can seem to get right that's the problem.  Flying TIEs around is easy, they have no moving parts. :-)

Monroville said:

In this case, I like the original DVD shot better.  I could see adding an AT-AT in the mid ground on the left (to balance the far off AT-AT and the foreground one - one that is mid size between the 2 we see) but the matte Ady is using looks very fakish.  I could see maybe doing something with the cloudscape, but the back"ground" should stay the same (just color corrected).

But nothing of the original DVD shot makes any sense with any of the shots around it, like I showed.  And its suddenly foggy in the shots with Luke's target walker.  Doesn't make any sense.

ChainsawAsh said:

doubleofive said:

Last night's episode (titled "Some Like It Hoth") was strangly on topic for these boards.  Hurley in 1977 trying to write Empire Strikes Back from memory, making it a little better, and avoiding Return of the Jedi especially the Ewoks?  Awesome.

... holy shit.  Why did I not watch that last night?

Off to ABC's website to watch it in HD ......

I watch my episodes Thursday morning so I can do my Facebook recaps, but I almost didn't for this episode.  Miles-centered?  Come on.  The title was the only thing that inspired me to watch it instead of tossing the recap to someone else.  I'm glad I did.  Its only a couple scenes, but part of it is ACTUALLY THE MORAL OF THE EPISODE.  I'll let you watch it yourself.

InfoDroid said:

 

doubleofive said:

For those wondering, here is what Ady has to contend with when it comes to The Last Three Walkers:

 

 

Also notice the wildly varied backgrounds.

 

Wow...never noticed that, all these years.  And we think the Prequels are bad with continuity...How did that ever pass?

I'm sure it came down to money.  "Hey, this shot needs another week's worth of work to make it match!" "Eh, no one will ever notice."

For those wondering, here is what Ady has to contend with when it comes to The Last Three Walkers:

Also notice the wildly varied backgrounds.

Makes sense that more than one would be brought down by tripping them, and they probably would fall in similar ways.

Last night's episode (titled "Some Like It Hoth") was strangly on topic for these boards.  Hurley in 1977 trying to write Empire Strikes Back from memory, making it a little better, and avoiding Return of the Jedi especially the Ewoks?  Awesome.

BarBar Jinkx said:

it is but its barely visiable 

now if the lasers were green!!!

I darkened it enough to see that you are indeed correct.

He even added a blast flash to the cannon.  Nice, but REALLY hard to see!

BarBar Jinkx said:

it is but its barely visiable 

 

now if the lasers were green!!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

You'll notice in the GOUT that the walker is firing as Luke is going up.  However, you can't see the bolts in the 2004 DVD because the brightness is so far off.

Ady, is your walker firing?

Darth Lars said:

Sorry, but I think the colors in the image on the far right looks best, actually. But then, I am watching this on a PC with different gamma than a television.

There is one thing that bugs me, though: It is illogical for Luke's airspeeder to be in the left in the picture, when he is clearly running after the AT-AT. The airspeeder should be on the right in the shot, if at all.

In the images on the left, there is still a boulder left from the 2004 image that I think stands out.

The colors may look OK on the DVD, but the entire shot doesn't match any shot before or after.  It's too dark, too blue, too cloudy.  If you really watch the Hoth battle, the changing weather and background jump out at you.

And what airspeeder are you talking about?  I don't see one in any of the versions...

Comparison by me, coming in a few minutes.

Here it is:

Awesome that Ady used Vaderios' matte.  It's good stuff there!

BarBar Jinkx said:

From what I can remember its goes something like this

 

when Qui gon died there was balance in the force so he was burned on the Pior which is jedi tradition

then later on there is imbalance so he finds a way back via the force

the imbalance is so strong that OBI & Yoda disolve into the force at the time of their deaths 

when Vader dies he has restored the balance to the force by killing El Sid, & as a result luke Burns his remains as is the tradition.

Never heard that one.  Why couldn't Lucas have made it easier?  Oh yeah, he didn't watch the OT when he was writing the PT, and only addressed issues as they were pointed out to him, promising answers in "the next movie."

I agree, but Lucas never explained if Qui-Gon learned this secret about staying around as a Force ghost and taught it to Yoda, who taught it to Obi-Wan just before they both went into exile, how would Anakin know about it?  And why didn't Qui-Gon disappear (of course, that's fixable, but Obi-Wan would have freaked out next to that pit if he had never seen that before).

It's all sloppy.  All Jedi should have disappeared when they died.  Then nothing would be wrong.  I'm still upset about that.

IF, I ceretainly hope your ideas are worth it.  jones and ID are about to die over here.  ENTIRE FAN EDITS REST ON YOUR SHOULDERS!  A WHOLE GENERATION OF FANS' CHILDREN WILL TELL OF THIS ENDING!

No pressure. ;-)

steamboy said:

*not posting it again so there aren't a hundred in a row*

Please add this.
That is all.

That is one of those GIFs that you can watch over and over again.

vaderios said:

At least in the ROTJ celebrations i d like to see some of them to be morning like a new dawn :)

 

-Angel

Angel posted this in the Prequel Redux thread, but I thought it appropriate here also.  I don't know if I should applaud them for saving money, or condemn them for not even changing the sky.

At least the colors are better.  Wait, THE COLORS ARE BETTER?!

I don't remember where it was mentioned, but there's an article the specifically states that ILM did the colors and just had Lowry clean it.  I think ILM tried to restore it themselves to save money, messed up the colors and hoped Lowry could fix it.

adywan said:

well i can't see why selling some hand built stuff would be illegal. There is no way i could possibly think of selling the sets though. The canyon alone is going to be 13ft & 3ft and the hangar is going to be huge also so no possible way to ship these things in one piece. I may, however, be selling the Wampa and some of the smaller things that i wouldn't be needing for any of the other films in the saga. But its getting the money together to get the things done in the first place that's the problem. lol

That's really big.  I mean, wow.  Are you actually going to fly the Falcon through it, to scale?!  That's impressive.

Bingowings said:

Monroville your link isn't working at this end.

Remember we were told the every special effect element had been recomposited for SE?

OPPS!

I noticed that when I was doing my edit.  Oops, indeed.  A terribly composited 2D explosion and unneccesary redness bleeding onto Wedge.  I don't even understand how that was possible.

Just uploaded them all for ImpFight to use.

Cripes, that alien is creepy/crappy.

On a more serious note, I got the screenshot descriptions ImperialFighter needs for his suggestions.  I'll try to get those done for him today so he can post them here soon.

EDIT: I've not watched the movie since opening day, or even touched the DVD.  Pray for me, as I go almost frame by frame through the opening and closing of this movie.

jones1899 said:

So I had this idea some time ago for the climax with Spalko and someone at the other site suggested the same thing, so I wanted to see what you guys thought. 

What if we show what Spalko is seeing visions of in the end. I don't know what EXACTLY, but maybe horrible things from the past? future? Obivously the clips would have to build from something somewhat normal to something crazier and crazier. But using old news footage, etc might be kinda cool  here. Might give the film that added weight that it needs. 

Two things:

1. I think these would have to have some sort of effect to show she's seeing this in her mind. Nothing cheesy. Of course I don't have the tech know how to do this. 

2. I would only want news footage or really old film footage. I don't want something from War of the Worlds in there or anything. 

Horrible things from the past?  Getting crazier and crazier?  You don't need old film footage, you just need to show her the movie she was just in!

Oh, burn.

Bingowings said:

It's great work doubleofive but there is a key problem with it.

Why do the fighters go in with the Falcon in the first place?

One obvious answer is the more ships that go in the more chances they have of success, in that case why ram or bam the reactor with the Falcon with a larger crew than the fighters?

The next obvious answer is to protect the Falcon on it way in but that doesn't hold up because the Imperial fighters are traveling in the same direction as the Rebels (all the Rebel guns are pointing the wrong way).

If they are there to protect the Falcon the Rebels should split up and creep up behind the Imperials and pick them off or wait until the Imperials are in the tube and come in after them.

The best option I can think of (because we all want fighters in that maze with the Falcon) is that the Falcon is critically damaged in the bump that takes out the communications disk (as in my earlier post), it's going to blow up anyway so Lando sends Wedge out and rams the reactor, getting the best use of a failing resource.

You bring up a problem I've always had with the sequence.  Why do "all" the fighters (Lando calls for all of them, of which there are apparently FIVE LEFT) need to enter the DS if Lando is going to send them all back to the surface a few seconds later (which is why I moved the Executor sequence inbetween, so Lando waits a bit before sending them back, like he's almost to the reactor and is sending them away).  Six TIEs enter in after them, one exploding against the wall and three following everyone else out.  Then those two TIEs shoot at the Falcon a grand total of ONCE, and the Falcon never uses its cannons to shoot them off (unless the cannons are damaged, as you suggest).

Since we don't have shots of Billy Dee saying how the Falcon is too damaged to make the shot, we have to think of other alternatives.  Like maybe not having the other Rebel ships go with Lando.  But then you have to wonder what would happen if the Falcon didn't make it.  More runs at the reactor?  Too much like ANH.

I really don't know.

ALSO: it'd be awesome if we could find Billy Dee saying "sorry" sincerely or something apologetic as he's headed towards the reactor during my silent part.  Any ideas?

Sluggo said:

It turns out the Jundland wastes, plains of Naboo and Bespin are all actually different parts of Endor. 

What about Coruscant?  Also part of Endor, OR THE PLANET ENDOR ORBITS?