doubleofive

So, Yoda's stump: should it be visable in the scene where Yoda picks up the X-Wing and sets it down (apparently) right next to where the stump should be?

The problem is that according to my "research" (squinting at screenshots on my monitor) it should be right where Luke is standing on his head.

The sticky-out bit is in the comparison shots, Obi-wan is just standing floating in front of it.

Here's a shot from the set I found on T-bonez.  Yoda just chooses weird tree formations to sit on.

I think he thinks the color is desaturated too much.  At least that's what he mentioned in a PM.

Two foot tall and floating in front of the log next to Yoda.  Not sure why.

Since someone posted a frame from the video and I'm a hopeless Comparison Nut, here's the comparison:

No more Floaty Mini-Obi-Wan!

Bingowings said:

I couldn't help but notice that the background to the bonus scene was a little monochrome will this be adjusted in the final version?

The stump that Obi-wan is behind is a bit odd too (he is a ghost it might work if he is infront of it and we can see through it, perhaps? Or maybe it could be adjusted to look a little less cut around).

Yoda is amazing but in long shots the Obi-Wan element seems to missing some frames (is this temporary?).

Otherwise great, great work nice to see Ben not floating in a void for the first time.

It looks great from that shot.  I'm sure if it looks bad, its just a filler.

I've got ya, YIYF!  And you, Hot Rod!

doubleofive (its nice to have a single online entity)

trimboNZ said:

havoline said:

proving the point that ILM is not passionate about Star Wars, the very reason they exist is because of Star Wars.  If the personel were wanting to do it they would have done the work for free, dont you think?

 

ANH (Lukes lightsaber was green somehow in 2004 DVD release) I rest my case.

I was under the impression that Lowry Digital did the restoration and colour-correcting for the 2004 DVDs, and were given one month per movie.

The only article about the 2004 DVDs says that it was ILM:

Moth3r said:

doubleofive said:

I don't remember where it was mentioned, but there's an article the specifically states that ILM did the colors and just had Lowry clean it.  I think ILM tried to restore it themselves to save money, messed up the colors and hoped Lowry could fix it.

http://www.apple.com/ca/pro/film/lowry/starwars/index.html

That article mentions that Lucasfilm scanned the negatives, carried out the "re-mastering" (I assume this means the '04 alterations) and the re-colour timing. Then then attempted a cleaning pass through ILM, before deciding to give the job to Lowry.

Lowry received high-definition scans to work with from Lucasfilm. Although it is not clear in the article, it's reasonable to assume that the scans provided contained the tweaks and the new colours.

Ripplin said:

Very nice, Bingo. Some of your best yet, I think.

And hey, it's another ship landing scene! :p

I call for a montage of Prequel Ship Landing scenes!  Someone put it on YouTube and let's see how not to progress a story!

X-Wing Mechanic said:

Prognosis:

I loved the new clip! Yoda is full of life now, especially when he says, "You will become an agent of evil." I remember that the puppet's mouth movement was terribly unconvincing in the originals which "takes one out" of the fantasy and the suspension on the ordinary. The new mouth movement and expressions are subtle but powerful. Adywan is a great magician!

I do have a critique. When Ady enlarged Obi Wan so that he fits the size of Yoda in the scene there is a very noticeable loss of resolution. Two ways around this: return Obi Wan to original size and place some branches in front of him to show that he is some distance behind Yoda; or shrink Yoda a little so that he fits in with the original Obi Wan.

I loved the shot of Cloud City. The clouds really give dimension to the previously flat and obviously painted shot. The red sky car (I don't know what they are called) is a bit jarring though since it contrasts the beautiful sky scene with a very passionate red. I know some of the shots were temps and are still under construction. I hope my thoughts are somewhat useful.

 

X-Wing Mechanic

I cry for being in debt and living on a budget, and my wife thinking I'm addicted to the OT boards anyway so asking for money would be bad for my life.

C3PX said:

Bingowings said:

In that set up when Luke is saying "I can't do it alone" he is expressing doubts to Artoo over his ability to save everyone now that Leia has blown the plan rushing to save Han so Ben turns up to give him a bit of a pep talk but also to bring the story of his father's fall full circle.

The context changes the meaning of the line.

 

I don't think what you are talking about could every be done by any stretch of the imagination, but even if if could, wouldn't it just make more of a mess?

If you took Ben's telling Luke that Leia is his sister and placed it at the beginning of a movie, I guess you have to remove it from its rightful spot, to prevent redundancy. Since Ben has already confirmed that Vader is Luke's father and Leia is his sister, then Luke would have no reason to ask Yoda if Darth Vader was really his father, and Yoda's dying words "there is another Sky...walk...er" would be meaningless. In the attempt to fix some logical errors at the start of the film, you'd be bungling the entirety of the film and making some of the more meaningful moments less meaningful. Also, Threepio translates for Leia, so how could she already be capture by the time Luke decides to send the droids?

Not if you open the movie on Dagobah.

"Luke is on Hoth.  The entire planet is covered in snow.  It must be cold!"

I think they're safe as long as they don't have ridiculous accents.

corellian77 said:

shanerjedi said:

Do we really need a siren? He already gave the evacuation order. People are fleeing. We get it already.

Put Ric Olie in the shot then for cryin' out loud.

"Look, it's an evacuation and the people are leaving!"

LOL... I vote ady put Ric Olie into every scene of ESB:R from this point onward.

-- "That's Darth Vader, Luke's father... and look, he just lopped off his right hand."

I love Ric Olie!  I wish we could get that actor in to make an alternate audio track, like sometimes they have one for the blind.  I can't believe that he also plays the drugged-out stage manager in Wayne's World 2 though...

If you watch the movie, its R2-D2.  He shoots smoke at the stormtroopers then makes his way to the ship.

It's R2-D2.  The bolt is right behind him.

Here's my GOUT/DVD/REV comparison on the two shots that have GOUT to compare to:

And notice this:

Those the same buildings in the same positions as when they arrived in Revisited.  Blessed Continuity!

bkev said:

Here's a funny idea I had... what if the celebrations were before the funeral?  I think it might work, given the proper editing.  Make it so that it's almost as if the ghosts of the three Jedi are reminding him that he has a duty to dispose of Vader's remains.  Also, it would feel darker IMO.  Besides, Luke seems the type who would skip out on the celebration for at least awhile for some alone time.  That is, if the teddybear parade were used instead of the world celebrations - I'm in the minority, but I prefer that to the celebrations (not the music mind you, the celebration).

I saw you commented that on my YouTube.  It's an interesting idea, but I think the funeral is the closure on Darth Vader with the burning of the suit.  If it came AFTER the closure on Anakin being a redeemed Force Ghost, I think it would be confusing.  I mean, maybe we could give it a shot, but I'm not sure.

Bingowings said:

ben_danger said:

i guess maybe the strap could have snapped, and when han falls out of the carbonite in ROTJ, it could be added and just fall on the floor perhaps.

Perhaps in ROTJ:R Ady could just show the strap still stuck in the Carbonite when Han falls out.

I believe Ady has said that his plan is to add the strap to RotJ, no worries.

Those screenshots on there would look great on DVD covers.....

I never heard the tractor beam line until the SE because the copy of Star Wars I grew up with was a VHS copy of the CES Videodisc (I wish I still had it, I'm sure it was really high quality, HA).

Mielr said:

SilverWook said:

Holy crap! I've never noticed that before! I've been too busy trying to read that screen all these years. Is that from Empire or Jedi? Although it would make sense if they simply recycled that shot for Jedi...

Yeah, it's from Empire but I wouldn't be surprised if they used it for Jedi, too.

Actually, that's from Jedi.  You can tell because its not blue.  And I screenshot it.

Gaffer Tape said:

Well, hot damn, doubleofive!  That new lighting scheme really did the trick!  The video looks a hundred times better this time around!

I took the lamp shade off the lamp I'd been using before, and I turned on one light of the lamp tree to my left, diffusing it with wax paper and aiming it slightly toward the ceiling, and I think it turned out just great!

Awesome!  And to think I just pulled that idea out of my hindquarters.  LOL

My first thought when I saw the vaderios' Jabba's Palace matte was "I hope someone asked for a higher resolution!"  And you did.  And I was pleased.

Gaffer Tape said:

Heh, lighting's the one thing that's always pissed me off.  I've taken film directing, film editing, and film production classes, know the name and function of pretty much every professional lighting instrument and how to work them and set them up and have had plenty experience doing so, but for some reason, I've never quite been able to figure out how to make a decent lighting scheme.

That's exactly my story also, though on a much smaller scale.  Maybe we should combine our fuzzy knowledge of things into one coherent knowledge!