doubleofive

vaderios said:

Janskeet said:

What changes/additions were made between the DVD-5 and DVD-9 versions?

DVD9 has some more bonus materials and some scenes are slight altered. All the info is in the PDF or you can run the trivia track ;). 005 has at his sig all the comparison and i think at some photos says what changed between the versions ;)

Maybe the youtube version is the Xvid one that is a "workprint" of the revisited before the final release.

-Angel

Looks that way.  I don't have the Xvid here with me, but the DVD-5 and DVD-9 have the original background.

The description for the DVD-9 on fanedits.com has the changes between the DVD-5 and DVD-9.

Yes, Ady's comparison shots are in my sig. :-D

The windshield (spaceshield?) is my favorite part.  Looks a lot more solid.

ImperialFighter said:

jones1899, unfortunately it's not sufficient to give you the bare basics of what I intended to show.  The basics are that I've got a different 'beginning' which involves various alternative shot arrangements, and a different 'ending' that also involves various alternative shot arrangements, and it' s just not possible to summarise it into a few sentances. 

I really need to lay this out with a lot of screenshots to clearly show what I have in mind.  I'm still in the middle of organising what I need for doubleofive to help me out, and had some coding problems at my end the last couple of days.  These have just been sorted out, but I'm still in a  busy period concerning life in general, unfortunately.

Believe me, I wish I'd looked at all this long before now, and would have liked to have offered this a while back, but all you need to know at the moment is that this will be the longest series of consecutive posts I've ever done on this forum.  (And I reckon I've done a few lengthy ones in the past....)

Thanks for the interest, and if anyone likes them, and wishes to incorporate any of them, then of course they are welcome.  I'm getting through it all, but it's going to take just a little longer yet to do it properly.

By the way it's my Birthday as of a little while ago, and the family have something planned after work that will delay me resuming this till the day after.  But I'll try to finish it all as soon as I can.  Must get some sleep now.

I got the shot list from ImpFight, and he has well over TWO HUNDRED frames he wants me to grab.  I'm not sure when I'll be able to do this, maybe this week.

Jedi Dark Knight said:

adywan said:

yeh, i'm hoping to do something about that.

I find that shot with the MF running away from the 2 ties shifting on it's Y-axis through the cannyon quite good, it's a great example of superb piloting from Han and how the 2 ties collide with each other funny, what changes are you gonna do? detail? opticals or remove the shot? :(

It's going to be the same, but newer, cleaner, better.  All new set, all new models.

adywan said:

AxiaEuxine said:

Hey Adywan can we get some Ewoks in Empire revisited? Maybe have a couple walking alongside an ugnaught and talking? Maybe they could help put Han into Carbon freeze?

Or maybe have some Gungans walking around in the background? Maybe a Neimodian or two?

Oh god, please tell me you are joking

Last April you were all about it!

Wait, that was my pretending to be you as part of April Fools.  Nevermind then.

Janskeet said:

What DVD software do you guys use? I use Cyberlink PowerDVD 8 and it doesn't remove the black bars along the bottom and the top. Do you guys manually cut the black bars out of the frame or do you use a software that automatically removes them when you capture a frame?

I use PowerDVD at home, but I have to use Photoshop to cut off the black bars.  Eventually I'm going to Handbrake a lot of my movies (which cuts off the black) if only so I can take screenshots without having to crop them.

Darth Solo said:

You still didnt give me time to edit my post. Speedy gonzalez!

See?!  My wife is right!  Or my job isn't demanding enough. ;-)

Darth Solo said:

You didnt give me chance to edit my post.

No offence 00.

I figured it wasn't directed at me, no worries. :-D

Darth Solo said:

doubleofive said:

I've dreamed of doing that also.  I think I may have literally dreamed of doing that once. ;-)

Sorry, but its no wonder 'other' thread members class us as kiss arses when reading this thread. I prefer to think of us as fans who appreciate what Ady can bring to the OT for the better rather than, urmph, what the SE's gave us. I feel like the SE's has taken the polish off any futher alterations to the OT, and thats why many members scorn Adys efforts. Damn, i sound like a kiss arse now...

All I meant was I think about this thread way too often.  No wonder my wife says I'm addicted to the forums.

asterisk8 said:

gavin77 said:

Oldfan said:

You can really see the difference in size between the included dish and the "correct" size in the second link you posted. I am amazed that Adywan is taking on such a huge task as building this model on top of everything else he is doing with this project. I know what kind of time and patience it takes to build something like this. I built this http://www.starshipmodeler.com/1999/js_warp_eagle.htm years ago, and it was a nightmare due to the brittle parts (sure looks good though). Of course the Fine Molds will be different material, but just the thought of it containing over 800 parts makes my head spin. I can't wait to see how this comes out, but I get the feeling that we won't be seeing it anytime soon.

Like I said, I get that feeling too! Extreme amounts of work for only one man.....this could take a long while, but I'm sure it will look great.

I know. If I lived in the UK, I would totally be ady's volunteer assistant. Hell, I would pay HIM to work on this project. Just bringing him coffee, dusting the models, combing the wampa puppet, etc.

I've dreamed of doing that also.  I think I may have literally dreamed of doing that once. ;-)

My wife and I loved the movie (my review will be here soon, with a spoiler companion piece here).  The wife has only really seen Voyager and a few of the movies, but she has a working knowledge of Trek.  However, on the way home, she too said she wanted to see some of the old stuff again.

It's working.

ImperialFighter said:

Janskeet said:

I really don't see whats wrong with the Millenium Falcon/Tie Fighters in the asteriod/canyon chase. It looks fine to me. I don't see why adywan is going through the hassel of recreating the asteriod/canyon chase with models, I don't see what's in dire need of fixing?

Because the elements/colouration in the couple of shots where the TIEs collide, and when we see the Falcon with the resulting explosion behind it as it goes through the canyon passage, are probably among the worst effects in the entire movie, and spoil what is otherwise a terrific sequence.

Yeah, that's pretty bad.

BarBar Jinkx said:

I'd love to see somebody (SSWR, Bingowings) throw together a New ending for RotJ after Ewok celebration that would go a little something like this -

Night -

Camera closes in on jedi temple as celebrations can be heard outside

Luke looking out over coruscant as ben & yoda sit in there old chairs 

(maybe) Qui~Gon (& thats a BIG maybe) appears in the centre of the room beside Anakin

 

Cut to senate building Via Palps Statue being toppled

 

Mon Mothma is stood in central podium

with Senator Leia organa coming into view on floating podium, 3Po & Others are with her.

 

(if Lando is killed in DSII)

cut to Bespin 

Statue of Lando is revealed to rapturous applause 

Han looks up to it with a sad smile. Chewie  & Wedge are stood with him.

 

as for Naboo & Tatooine I just don't know of a good way to show those two planets 

I wish we could do something like that.  I love it.

adywan said:

doubleofive said:

adywan said:

corellian77 said:

BTW, how're the donations coming along?  Still in need of some monetary funds?

Well i'm in constant need of funds at the moment. i have managed to get the finemold Millennium fFalcon and a few materials for the sets but the donation fund has now dried up and there is still a lot more stuff  to get. once i have everything i need then the donations will be closed. And i have to say a huge thanks to everyone who has donated.

Awesome!  You could post a teaser picture of it!  Are you going to modify it, I read the paint job is a bit off...

yeh there is some modifications i will be doing to it. the model is unpainted so i will be matching the paintjob and details as close as humanly possible to the studio model ( thanks to the hundreds of photos from the exhibitions). i have to add all the lighting to the model to so there is a lot of work to be done.

The Fine Molds Falcon is not the one I was thinking of.  So, it comes in naked pieces and you have glue all the little greeblies on it?!  YOU CAN EVEN SEE IN THE TURRET PORTS AND SEE THE CHAIRS.

That's crazy!  Crazy but awesome!

adywan said:

corellian77 said:

BTW, how're the donations coming along?  Still in need of some monetary funds?

Well i'm in constant need of funds at the moment. i have managed to get the finemold Millennium fFalcon and a few materials for the sets but the donation fund has now dried up and there is still a lot more stuff  to get. once i have everything i need then the donations will be closed. And i have to say a huge thanks to everyone who has donated.

Awesome!  You could post a teaser picture of it!  Are you going to modify it, I read the paint job is a bit off...

So not every special edition change is going.  Interesting.  The colors look so much better, and thanks for posting the comparison, saves me some time. ;-)

I think the girl in the back was a model, because look at the way she's posed in that shot.

Strike a pose!

shanerjedi said:

Nah. He'll pull a Lucas SW SE and let the finished Jabba scene sit on the shelf after it was finished at the end of 95, despite advancements from Dragonheart and other movies to make it look better.

The original SE Jabba animator, Steve Williams, asked George over and over if he could adjust it in '96 to take advantage of the new advancements in lip animation, namely the Cari software developed for Dragonheart.

Gee, I kinda went off on a tangent there didn't I?

I did not know any of that.  Good tangent!

Everyone has to remember this shot was thrown together for the pre-production trailer over a year ago.  I'm sure it will look even better now.

This thread makes me almost as sad as when I heard that the King Kong ride went up in flames.

Please tell me that the Haunted Mansion (the only thing I remember from my trip to Disney World 20 years ago) isn't branded with Eddie Murphy now.

My dream is to ride the Jaws ride.  I hope it still exists whenever I get to finally go to Universal Studios.

So, Yoda's stump: should it be visable in the scene where Yoda picks up the X-Wing and sets it down (apparently) right next to where the stump should be?

The problem is that according to my "research" (squinting at screenshots on my monitor) it should be right where Luke is standing on his head.

The sticky-out bit is in the comparison shots, Obi-wan is just standing floating in front of it.

Here's a shot from the set I found on T-bonez.  Yoda just chooses weird tree formations to sit on.

I think he thinks the color is desaturated too much.  At least that's what he mentioned in a PM.

Two foot tall and floating in front of the log next to Yoda.  Not sure why.

Since someone posted a frame from the video and I'm a hopeless Comparison Nut, here's the comparison:

No more Floaty Mini-Obi-Wan!

Bingowings said:

I couldn't help but notice that the background to the bonus scene was a little monochrome will this be adjusted in the final version?

The stump that Obi-wan is behind is a bit odd too (he is a ghost it might work if he is infront of it and we can see through it, perhaps? Or maybe it could be adjusted to look a little less cut around).

Yoda is amazing but in long shots the Obi-Wan element seems to missing some frames (is this temporary?).

Otherwise great, great work nice to see Ben not floating in a void for the first time.

It looks great from that shot.  I'm sure if it looks bad, its just a filler.