doubleofive

Awesome that you removed all the extra stuff.  Sorry, I didn't look too carefully (and I never learned how to spell "Rogue").  Apparently Luke is mentioned a lot, eh?

The problem is that the scripts have the names of the characters who are saying it and the stage directions (that's where all the "rouges" come from).  So its more a sign of who has more lines. ;-)

It's still awesome.

Wow.  I never thought I'd see the day when XØ would be around.  Now, forgive me, but I'm not sure if I understand what the benefit of having another Laserdisc version would do...  What's the point of the project again?

Check it out:

http://blog.darendoc.com/?p=580

DarenDoc says this in the article:

One point on the commentary of TMP that I’d like to clarify… when we made the recording, we were watching the transfer of the film that Robert Wise supervised the color timing for… and you can hear me commenting on that, and the fact that the two shots in the v’ger interior where we corrected the deflector dish color were in the copy we were watching… are not in fact in the new HD transfer.  Overall, I’m sorry to see that the timing supervised by Mr. Wise and approved by cinematographer Richard Kline isn’t on this release… the new transfer seems shifted a bit too much toward the cyan in most scenes… but the contrast and black density seems proper now, now that NTSC vagueries aren’t a consideration.

And clarified in the comments after I asked him what version he was watching:

We were watching a video of the original theatrical edition. When we color corrected the theatrical version with Mr. Wise, it was in HD… that was then down converted and used as the source material to do the Director’s Edition. This version of the theatrical cut was what we were watching when we did the commentary. We watched a standard def video when doing the commentary.

So they made an HD color-corrected version of the theatrical cut which has apparently never been seen!  The released Blu Ray is more original, but still a bit more cyan.

I think the SLV is fine having started with the DE since it was color corrected and looks good from that end.  Or are you going to go through and break the deflector dish color in Vger? ;-)

Now THAT is a classic picture.  Awesome.

I originally thought Doom being a prequel was Lucas revisionism when I got the last VHS set before the DVDs with the "Chapter" numbers on the side.  Took me years to actually READ THE SUBTITLES and see that it was always supposed to be before.  I believe I read an interview that it being a prequel explains why there aren't any Nazis.  Like being in China and India isn't enough of an explanation.  Still doesn't answer the question of whatever happened to Short Round.

Ah yes, it was the Super-SE.  I don't think I ever watched the regular SE.  I don't even like the T-1000 searching his room scene.  Nevermind then, I don't need to edit anything then.  :-D

I have the first metal-cased DVD with all three versions on a double-sided DVD, all three on one side.  Yeah, I need an upgrade.

ChainsawAsh said:

Just got back from seeing it.  My verdict?

Nowhere near as awful as I was expecting.  I give it a 6.5 out of 10.  To compare that to the others:

The Terminator - 9.5/10
Terminator 2: Judgment Day [Theatrical Cut] - 8.5/10
Terminator 2: Judgment Day [Special Edition] - 9/10 (would graduate to 9.5/10 if the chip-resetting and the T-1000 malfunctioning were the only added scenes)
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines - 4/10
Terminator 3: The Coming Storm [Uncanny Antman fanedit] 6.5/10

So, since Terminator Salvation starts off at a 6.5 for me, I have a strong feeling that once McG's supposed director's cut comes out, a fanedit of that can bump it up to about a 7 or 7.5.

I agree.  I need to throw myself together an edit with that.  I would watch only the SE if it didn't have that terrible flashforward ending.

To bring this somewhat back on topic, when I posted the trailer to my facebook the other day, a friend of mine commented that he loved ANHR.  I questioned if he had been on the board, and he hadn't.  So word is getting around.  I'll have to ask him where he got it.

Changing anything or cutting anything about Watto is an abomination.

http://www.geocities.com/doubleofive/

I can't believe I'm linking to my ancient geocities site....

Boba.  He brings nothing to the movie.

fishmanlee said:

how about either in the final battle, in the space battle, OR on endor we should have boba fett,
  maybe in the battle between vader and luke or in the space battle, OR a "final battle" between  Fett  and Han on endor

I'm not so sure about that.  We've discussed having him leave Tatooine before the Battle of Carkoon and/or having him deliever the trap/plans to the Rebels.  I'm more for cutting him out completely and totally.

This thread has fallen into MADNESS!  MADNESS I TELL YOU!

Except for this.  This is genius:

oh_riginal said:

adywan said:

Bout the other Falcon, i contacted the Post office Tuesday and they got back to me today saying that they can find no trace of it

 

 

It can't have disappeared! No ship that small has a cloaking device!

Hey you might want to check the back of your shoulder... just saying.

fishmanlee said:

Bingowings said:

I was too young to make a joke about the boastful sticker on the box :

[Picture of the Millennium Falcon saying that its "Over 18 Inches Long!"]

  i dont get it

Do we really have to explain it?  It's dirty, I'll give you that hint. ;-)

The show was awesome, but had a few too many Time Traveling Terminators.  The Connors burned all they could, but it looks like there were plenty of scrap to build a whole new Skynet around.  Remember in T2 when the chip and arm of the first T-800 were such a threat to humanity?  Now they're outdated models and everyone has a piece of a T-888!

You'd think Skynet would have uploaded itself with T-800s and started producing infiltrators from day one.  At least its only 14 years after JD and they're figuring this out.  According to T1, they had just started making T-800s in 2029, THIRTY TWO YEARS after the 1997 JD!

ChainsawAsh said:

lordjedi said:

This kind of makes sense with what we know of the changing timeline from the TV series.

But this movie completely ignores the TV show.  There's two timelines to the "Terminator" series:

TIMELINE A (Official): The Terminator; Terminator 2: Judgment Day; Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines; Terminator: Salvation

TIMELINE B (Alternate): The Terminator; Terminator 2: Judgment Day; Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles

And as far as in-universe timelines for the movies, there's the T1/T2 "closed-loop" timeline, where Judgment Day occurs in 1997.  Then the events of T2 change the future, so that Judgment Day now occurs in 2003, so everything from T3 onward follows the changed (2003 Judgment Day) timeline instead of the original (1997 Judgment Day) timeline.

I think there are too many changes to the Salvation timeline for it to actually ride the T3 timeline.  Kate being a surgeon instead of a vet, 10 years too early T-800s...

I'm not sure what I'll do if I ever update my Terminator Timeline again.  Either create a new timeline due to the changes made in T3, or move T3 to a new timeline and guess that T4 is what would have happened if Skynet hadn't sent the T-X back.

Yes, it comes in 900 pieces, and he has to build it, paint it, weather it, and he wants to light it.  That's why he gave the release date of "2010".  He has the rest of this year and could take all of next year doing this. ;-)

Screencaps of spelling mistakes.  Have we sunk this low?

The first post is in the process of being reformatted/rewritten based on my RotJ Wishlist.  Should be up shortly, so I wouldn't worry about anything it says right now.

I didn't care for it.  It had its moments, but it was TERRIBLY edited (partly to make it PG-13, partly for no apparent reason at all).  I liked all the references to the previous movies, but they made me want to watch the original films INSTEAD of finishing the one I was watching.  My full review is on my WordPress.

SPOILERS (not present in my full review):

• So Marcus is a cyborg, a Terminator body with a human brain and heart.  And why does Skynet need this?  If they already started production on the T-800 which is designed for infiltration, what reason would they have for keeping Marcus' free will, which allows him to escape and save John?  And if they're so effective, why not do this to all of the prisoners instead of continuing with the T-800 who all look the same (that we've seen).
  
• I didn't see John being upset during his "WE ARE ALL DEAD!" speech because the Resistance was being inhuman, but because John didn't want his dad to die before John could be conceived.  As low on the totem pole as John seemed in 2018, I think the Resistance would have been fine without him existing.
• Where did Kyle learn his survival techniques, being one of the only humans in LA and a toddler during Judgment Day.  Who raised him?  Questions, questions.
• Where are my fields covered in skulls?  Every time we see the future, we see fields of skulls!  I didn't see any skulls in this movie, let alone fields of them!
• On the big Arnold reveal towards the end, most of my theater laughed in disbelief.  I thought the effect was well done, but still cheesy.  Don't they make any other models of T-800?

But seriously, I blame everything on McG.  Of the two prequel/sequel/reboots this summer (a genre that didn't exist last year), Star Trek wins by actually being an enjoyable movie.  TS has just too many pacing, editing, and creative problems.

EDIT: I just figured out what it was like!  A bad fan-edit!  Bad transitions, obviously missing sequences...  It's like McG fan-edited his own movie!

RoccondilRinon said:

That's a bit harsh. He may not have had much creative input but he was undeniably crucial to the logistics involved in making the films; that's his job. It's the *executive* producer who's usually accused of sitting around and making money from it, and in this case the EP is Lucas himself.

I was just going off of the interviews on the DVDs and such.  Rick has always been a target of abuse from my friends and I, so I give him a hard time.

If Rick McCallum can get a Producer credit on the SEs for standing around and saying "Great job, George!", then certainly sketchrob can get some kind of Producer or "financial consideration provided by" credit!

I played D&D 3rd Edition my last couple years of college, and then moved on to variations of 3.5 Edition for a couple years.  Had a couple friend who were really good DMs (what amounts to the storyteller/god of the game).  My roommate was known for his harsh tactics and insane attention to detail.  He spent an entire summer building a whole world, then ran probably 7 or 8 of us through it.  It was crazy.  Mine was the only character to live the whole way through.

Early this year, I decided that since I couldn't find anyone to play with, I would DM.  So I bought the 4th Edition Core Rulebooks and "Keep on the Shadowfell", a premade adventure meant to introduce people to the mechanics.  My wife, one of her friends, and her friend's husband all play, so I have to both DM and play at least one non-player character to make the fights more even (I made a dumb fighter who wouldn't be able to spoil the story).  We just finished "Keep" and I'm about to start them on "Thunderspire Labrinyth", the next premade adventure as I'm not ready yet to create my own.  I am modifying "Thunderspire" a bit, giving it some more coherency and a bit tighter plot.

It's fun, but I miss just playing.  It's hard to DM because if people aren't having fun, its no one's fault but your own!

Gaffer Tape said:

Amazing.  Being a bit too young to have caught the movies in theatres, I've always wondered how people reacted to the shift in episode numbers, especially how kids reacted to it.  I've never heard a story like that before, but it's a pretty well-informed rationalization.

I learned my roman numerals from the Star Trek movies, so when I finally realized what the "V" meant on my home video I think I asked my dad, but he didn't know.  Never really thought about it after that.

Monroville said:

vaderios said:

Executor Bridge! How wonderful :)

Pity i cant say the same for ROTJ version of it.

Based on ESB matte-set then:

I post that in some big rez to see some details or what.

I hate dead blacks...

This shot is going to have to be worked on for many reasons. For one thing: why is that station right in the middle of the friggen walkway?!  Think about it for a second: take the opening bridge shot in EMPIRE and stick a guy on a console right in the dead center of the set.  Is Vader going to have to say "excuse me" every time he wants to pace up and down the center walkway to keep an eye on the other guys?

Or the whole wall for that matter?  Strange.  They had the whole set (looks like they built more of it because there's no more matte lines around the center window), but they put the consoles up wrong and put one guy in the middle of the walkway!  How strange indeed.

The Golden Idol said:

Darth Solo said:

Has been montioned, with a strangely similar conclusion as to why in the post.

A lot of that going around lately...

(EDIT) vaderios beat me to it. And there is a lot of this going around lately too....

Is there any feasible way to fix it?

As you can see, the blurriness is the fix!  ILM cut out the characters with no level of blur at all (look at Lando's hair and Chewie's whole body).  Its just a matter of finding the balance between the cardboard-cut-out SE and the maybe-too-blurry Revisited Trailer.