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I did some editing a few years ago in college.  Final Cut Pro 3, I think it was (I wasn't in college that long ago, they just were behind the times).  I have a degree in "Media Communication", but I work in IT.  I really want to edit again, loved it.

Really want to see your friend's work.  Sounds awesome.  Of course, we'll need a different thread, don't want to take this one too far off topic (again).

C3PX said:

It has never been the editing bits of SW:R that has had people impressed, but rather those added elements. It is just down right ridiculous how easy it has become in to do editing on your home PC in the last few years. It is no exaggeration to say that it can be done by absolutely anyone who is willing to give it a try. But those added elements are the thing that makes Ady's edit unique, it, not the editing, is what puts many here in awe.

Right, its not the digital editing that makes this edit unique, its the added or removed elements.  The seamless removal of the SE Ronto that walks in front of the camera using dozens of elements from GOUT and Laserdisc sources is probably the most unsung change of the edit.

Ghostface, I don't think you're being as difficult as everyone else thinks you are.  Everyone has an opinion, that's fine.  And its hard to be constructive at this point with the edit being completed and finalized, never to be re-revisited.

DarthBo said:

As the French say: les goûts et les couleurs, ça ne se discute pas.

"The GOUT has good colors, so let's have peace?"

(Don't worry, I looked it up for reals)

Wow, I was thinking about suggesting that Ady do that while we're in this lull.  Not the whole random donation part (as I lack the funds to donate), but the rough draft review idea.  I hope it works out and you get some good critiques and hopefully the random person you pick doesn't just disappear with it!  Maybe you could watermark it not only with a "rough draft" title but their name!  LOL

I remember the TFN apologists convinced they were different people.  But as SilverWook pointed out, they practically throw a subtitle on the screen saying that they're the same person during the funeral scene.

I think Ady is holding off on RotJ until he's ready to start work on the Revisited version.  Apparently the colors are really bad in RotJ, or at least a lot more work to fix than the prequels.

Ady, are these going to be the color bases for the Revisited versions?  Do you have the hard drive space to keep all these HD files around for x years?

adywan said:

I'd also like to ask you if you work in the film industry, a film school student/ graduate or have no connections whatsoever

He asks this in sincerity, because one of the first "negative" reviews was from Mojo_LA who is a Hollywood VFX artist that worked on BSG and Star Trek (among other things).  His only real FX problem was the TIE scene which is explained here (before Ady did some tweaks to the shot, I believe).

As he explained:

Ady and his small team have done incredible, very professional work. It's 95% to the same standards we work towards on prime-time TV shows. I was very serious when I said that Ady could use his edit as a resume and get a job at probably any effects studio in Hollywood. I know I would hire him!

And this is a guy with real experience and a job in the industry, who actually offered to use his render farm to help fix what he thought could be better!

Editing wise, he didn't care for some of the changes:

I like most of what Ady did, but my friends and I were horrified at the music added to the saber fight in ANH. It doesn't belong there and is a far worse change than anything Lucas ever did. I'll take a 100 Greedos firing first over THAT.

Hamfistedly laying music behind it doesn't appreciably change it or make it better, so why not just leave it be?

Most of what Ady has done to his cut DOES help it, but I think in a few spots he suffers from "kid with a new toy" syndrome and is finding every last change he can make just for the sake of it.

But that was his opinion.  Of course, comparing adding music to Greedo shooting first instantly changed the tone on the board and he ended up leaving.  We lost a good possible resource that day.

Not sure why I reenacted "The Tragedy of Darth Mojo", except to point out that we've been through this before with someone who knew what they were talking about.

How many other people have recolored the entire movie, re-rotoscoped every lightsaber blade and blaster bolt, added backgrounds to every cockpit shot, updated control panels, and fixed 98% of the continuity errors?  Even ignoring the editorial changes, its a damn fine piece of work.

It's not so much the editing for me as the SCOPE and the attention to the Blessed Continuity.  This is THE LEAST Lucas should have done for us.

Technically if you only go by Revisited, this is the first time we've seen that Star Destroyer shot, and its flipped in ESB! ;-P

I tease, but seriously, how else do you build a fleet on the cheap without reusing elements and flipping shots?

^ undoctored shot from Return of the Jedi ^

If you notice, there are only 3, maybe 4 ships in that shot.  If ILM can do it, Ady can too.

You need a dual layer DVD burner and a dual layer DVD to burn it properly.  Get ImgBurn and you just use that program to burn it to the disc.  I'm not sure about the AppleTV format, depends on what you use to convert it and the settings.

Ady has already said no more PT stuff in the OTR.  Sad, but true.

Monroville said:

- in regards to the "robot heaven" sequence, maybe we don't need to see it... if you have the dialogue playing while we see Shia's body and his parents/girlfriend mourning over him, it could allude that either he went to robot heaven, all intelligent beings go to the same (or similar) heaven or it's all in his head... as in the matrix is what is speaking to him, and is in essence the "essence" of the Primes' consciousness.. hence why it reforms (nanotech maybe?).  

I like the VO idea.  Anything is better than its present state.  All good ideas really, except maybe the recoloring and adding/changing pieces of the robots, as that would be neat but impossible to do on a moving image.

You banned Janskeet, so I guess you'll have to fix him yourself. ;-)

I just put a picture in my signature, but made it as small as possible for this very reason.

I've got the layered PSD file if Jay were truly interested in it.

I came up with a logo a while back, thought it was pretty simple but neat:

http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/07/18/1701-tmp-directors-cut/

Doug Drexler posted some great shots of the DE CG Enterprise the other day.  Might be useful for covers.

mrbenja0618 said:

EyeShotFirst said:

I hope ady showcases the space battle and the death star battle for our main attention. All I need to see is the rebels on Endor turning off the shield generator. Then back to the important dark duel. Coz the Endor Forrest battle is a mood killer.

It really does kill the mood.... But the space battle in ROTJ is still IMHO the greatest of all the films. I'm still amazed at how well the ships maneuvered with them being models on wires. Great work.

Seriously I agree.  I mean, each ship is a separately shot element composited who knows how much time later.  It's impressive.  And to only have a couple mislayered/disappearing elements is extremely impressive.

BarBar Jinkx said:

The DS hiding behind the clouds had me in stitches,

 

I don't know it must be because of my kids 

 

I pictured the imperials on the bridge sniggering and whispering  - shhh shhh quiet down, he'll hear us!!!! shhhhh teheheheh!!!

At first I thought the hidden SD was clever.  Then you (your kids) made it hilarious.

Dunedain said:

They can always re-scan the source at 4k or 6k. :) With an HD camera, you're stuck with HD because that's what you shot the movie at.

You could rescan the source, but you would have to redo all of the effects if the digital intermediate was 1080p.

adywan said:

professa said:

adywan said:

There is a high possibility that once all 6 movies are finished i will never watch the Star Wars saga movies ever again.

that sounds like you're including your own edits in that statement!

is that what you meant?????

yes. i haven't watched ANH:R since i finished the DVD.

Some faneditors make the version they always wanted to see.  Ady works so hard to make that version that he doesn't want to see it once he's done.  Strange how that works.

oh_riginal said:

Ripplin said:

ChainsawAsh said:

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I want to see that scene so badly now ...

Was it actually filmed as a "scene" or just as a quick cut to a guy at the gun, then back to the regular stuff? It would be great if there was footage of him firing and such.

 

There is no doubt it must have been filmed, since that still exists. So much footage from major movies like Star Wars are never seen, even in DVD extras and such.

In my imagination, a re-done or brand new Falcon sequence could be similar to the opening of ROTS, with the camera following the Falcon similar to how it followed the Jedi Starfighters... and the top and bottom guns could be firing in all directions, taking out everything within radius....

But that would be an insanely difficult sequence to create in a fan-edit I would think!

That would be so awesome!  I hope someone can work that out.

Ady, don't be tempted by the Snowspeeder flaps!  You've got enough on your plate already!

And good luck on the canyon.  Are you going by the one already in the movie, or designing your own (as far as one can design a rock)?

Wrong thread, Ady!  LOL

EyeShotFirst said:

When I got ANH R I never touched my 2004 dvds again. They are just sitting on a shelf collecting dust.

I actually touch mine when I want to watch the Rifftrax for it, which doesn't make fun of the movie so much as the SE additions!  (The Riff on ESB is crap however, don't buy it)

I found ANHR because I was reading one of the TrekMovie.com about Star Trek Remastered, and someone mentioned that STR was cool, but nothing compared to Revisited.  I followed the link and found myself here!  I never left.