doubleofive

Love the visuals, but I think the celebrators should be a bit bigger/zoomed.  Part of me is looking at it like "what the heck am I looking at?  Oh, those tiny guys there!"  Maybe if this was used as part of a pan down from the planet down, but as a static shot, its a little too grand for me.  Might be different in motion since nothing else would be moving, I'm not sure.

XVID: http://originaltrilogy.com/fan-edits/fan-project-details.cfm/Fan-Edits/title/Star-Wars-Episode-IV-A-New-Hope-Revisited-Xvid/project/234/category/4/

DVD-5: http://originaltrilogy.com/fan-edits/fan-project-details.cfm/Fan-Edits/title/Star-Wars-Episode-IV-A-New-Hope-Revisited-PAL/project/260/category/4/

DVD-9: http://originaltrilogy.com/fan-edits/fan-project-details.cfm/Fan-Edits/title/Star-Wars-Episode-IV-A-New-Hope-Revisited-PAL-DL/project/261/category/4/

Check the DVD-5 link for changes to the XVID then the DVD-9 link for changes from the DVD-5 to the DVD-9.  That's as complete a list I have for changes between the versions.

vaderios said:

Heck, they change multiple times in the same film, especially on the 2004 DVDs.  I like Adywan's approach of redoing every saber ever.  Sure its time consuming, but by golly, its continuity!

Ithilgore said:

Actually, one thing I must ask, is there a comparison anywhere of the lighsabers from all six films? They change every film, I know, but a side by side would be helpful. I don't mean just screenshots from each film side by side, either, I mean like a fanmade six lightsbaer comparison, based on each of the films.

Lightsaber blades?  Lightsaber handles?  How does one do that without screenshots side-by-side?

shanerjedi said:

Oh God. Someone please fix that Falcon matte behind Han and Lando. Maybe add a dude into the painting behind the Falcon to blend the "Hey, I'm an actor walking in front of a bluescreen" look. Maybe have him working on that B-Wing cockpit in the background? I really dislike it when Lando starts walking toward it.

Yeah, I have to say that that matte is pretty sad.  Its really sad when you think that the only scene with the full-sized Falcon ended up on the cutting room floor, and the only times we see it are either model shots or paintings with no life or true dimension for them.  I do hope that Ady can get the models to redo these shots.

While making the isolated score, Ady exported it, split it into tracks and made a CD release complete with cover, insert and back cover.  I have it in my ANHR Archive at home.  I'm sure if Ady does an isolated score for ESBR he'd do it again.

It's all your work guys, I just write it down. :-)

Thanks to Darth Solo I came into possession of the mattes released in the ScreenThemes set.  Using Photoshop CS3's Photomerge and some editing of my own, I have managed to show how much more (or less) of the matte we gain from these files. (mattes are red tinted for clarity)

I'm not sure how much we'd gain vs the HD images, but creative editors can do some pans and such, for example on the walker.  Barring Vaderios and Venal recreating each matte from scratch, which would be the perfect plan.

Tried the same thing and while it let me update it, it showed up as:

A New Hope: Revisited <a href="http://wp.me/Pr3Gu-5q">Change List</a> (make sure I didn't miss anything!)
A New Hope: Revisited Visual Comparison (<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/doubleofive/ANHRVisualComparisonPart1">Part 1</a>) (<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/doubleofive/ANHRVisualComparisonPart2">Part 2</a>)
Empire: Revisited Final Trailer <a href="

which not only didn't show up correctly, but cut off half of them.  I'm going to the WYSIWYG editor to see if I can fix it from there.

I've had 3 updates since Friday, two at once soon after PMing Jay and one this morning. So we are still having problems, some of us.

Copied the wishlist to my Wordpress so I can have some version control. I think I'm going to keep updating it, so change your bookmarks!

http://doubleofive.wordpress.com/rotj-fanedit-wishlist/

vaderios said:

005 are you going to update the list ?

;)




-Angel

Ithilgore said:

TV's Frink said:

Darth Venal said:

You can't honestly expect them to show something like a vote from a Senate that big?

Actually that's exactly the kind of thing we have come to expect from Lucas LOL.

Well I don't know about just a vote on it's own being shown, but if the sequence consisted of all the senator's pods going up, them voting, and then showing their pods landing back in place, without cuts. Every single pod, of course.

 

Then I expect Lucas would have leapt at any chacne to cram it in the film.

Bingowings said:

One possible solution is to pretty much remove the Sarlacc entirely in either of it's current forms.

When we see it it's either in isolation or framed in by sets.

Once in a while there is a live action element that crosses the field of the Sarlacc in either it's physical set or CGI forms but they could be isolated for later use.

A redesigned physical model could be built and dropped into the space, it needn't be life sized, the Sarlacc isn't as huge as the sand worms in Dune so scaling down the sand isn't as much of an issue as it was for that movie. Though the bigger the model the better the effect (I'm not trying to underplay how difficult this would be, designing a model and building it, matching the lighting and reintegrating the live action elements would be a massive undertaking).

So like much of what is being proposed here it's not so much impossible but difficult.

For me part of the problem is the written ambition of the script doesn't match the resources available on the location and that's something that can only be augmented with CGI in a limited way.

Stuck with the footage as it was originally framed I think the beak and extra tentacles was as much as they could do back in 1997 (they couldn't move the creature so they added parts to it and animated those).

Threepio in the script describes Carkoon as a pit and the nesting place of the Sarlacc but the location is more of a dent in the sand.

Ideally the pit should be more rocky (so sand doesn't fall in it as much) and when the barge first turns up it would be great if the Sarlacc wasn't there and was enticed to the surface by the sound of the party arriving.

It would be visually much more interesting to see a giant Lovecraftian sand/sea monster heaving it's way up a stony pit than just having a sand crater with a sexually worrying mouth already hanging open in it.

Star Wars is always at it's best when it takes the visual language of one cinematic genre and turns it on it's side.

The sequence was meant to evoke images from maritime adventures (pirate ships, sea monsters, walking the plank etc) but it's a little too conservative with it's references so it would help to revisit some of those films and see what works and try and figure out what can be put into the existing footage in a convincing way.

Angel's mockups show the potential of shifting the live action elements around to compose much more interesting shots.

As with so much in ROTJ the problem isn't so much the story but the presentation not doing the story justice.

 

brash_stryker said:

ron2112 said:

Monroville said:

 
shouldn't the shaft darken as it deepens?

That's what she said.

LOL!

I've just finished reading the ENTIRE ANH:R thread, and boy am I envious of all you guys who were here when the finished project was unveiled. It's given me a renewed sense of excitement for when the same happens with this edit :)

I can't wait!

One reason why I like Fight Club: Ed Norton. I'd watch him in anything.

TheBoost said:

doubleofive said:


Did someone just seriously suggest that I do a commentary? I'm flattered, but I don't know any more than anyone else, I just compiled it all together.

 Peter Bogdovich's commentary's on some of Orson Welles's films (becasue Welles is apparently too lazy to record his own DVD commentaries... jerk!) are some of the more interesting things out there to listen too if your a film buff.

I mean, in the young artform/hobby of fanediting, your compilations makes you one of the foremost scholars in an emerging field :)

 

Thanks for your help Jay. This forum means a lot to us, you put a lot into it and it shows.

But your avatar makes me feel like you're calling me a homo.

http://www.owensworld.com/funnyimages/files/reminder_big.jpg

;-)

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After the site was taken down and put back up, I stopped receiving email notifications....

Ganamae said:

doubleofive said:

Ganamae said:

doubleofive said:

Sorry, but some people make two accounts for joke uses. Ric Olie didn't actually come out of the movie and onto our board. Hate to point out the obvious...

Good, I can feel your anger 005. He is defenseless. Take your weapon. Strike him down with all of your hatred and your journey towards Adywans' dark side will be complete!

Who exactly should I be striking down? Ric? I love Ric!

Perhaps the one that thought it was a good thing to point everything out and drop him into the movie, was it Lucas or some yes guys?

Do we know who his creator is?

DF Shadow said:


Probably a silly question but - is there anything that can be used/salvaged from the ewoks movies (which I haven't seen in ages) and incorporated into ROTJ somehow to enhance things in some ways?

Ganamae said:

doubleofive said:

 
Sorry, but some people make two accounts for joke uses. Ric Olie didn't actually come out of the movie and onto our board. Hate to point out the obvious...

 

Good, I can feel your anger 005. He is defenseless. Take your weapon. Strike him down with all of your hatred and your journey towards Adywans' dark side will be complete!

Johnny Ringo said:


That's not true. That's IMPOSSIBLE!

Ady just revealed that he is working with another CG artist on some stuff (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIWtNYp-IXQ for his past work). Ganamae won a workprint, he says its awesome but can't tell us about it. TV's Frink is Ric Olie. Darth Vader is Luke's father. That kind of stuff.

Tobar said:


I actually think doubleofive could do a good commentary. It would be like one of those historian commentaries. Just throwing it out there. =P

rlockhart said:


I would like a commentary track so I could know everything that was done and after watching it several times I could pick up a couple little thing that could be tweaked, because there are so few errors that stand out now like right before R2 get shot by trhe Jawas there is thye restraing bolt mark on him and Ady had fixed the mark that was there right before they put it on him.