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Bingowings said:

The only two incidents of adults doing it that I'm really aware of are Clive Barker (who now sounds like someone doing a bad impersonation of Louis Armstrong) and Rick McCallum both of which are originally from Liverpool. Maybe someone should approach Clive to redo the Jango voices for the PT.

Rick McCallum is BRITISH?  I had NO idea at all!  Crazy.

Every time I turn the HDTV in my hotel room, I have to set it to let the program decide what ratio to use so everyone doesn't look fat (they apparently upgraded the TVs but not the cable).  Every time I turn it back on it resets back to stretch, even though it remembers what channel I was watching.  Is this something with TVs in hotel rooms, or should I avoid buying an LG 32LC50C for fear of wanting to THROW IT OUT THE WINDOW ONTO ALL OF THE CARS PARKED BELOW ME?!

Awesome stuff that the Nero comic references V'ger.  Nice to see that they try to tie everything into the comics like that.

I just realized that I did the beaming wrong!  The blue glowies are going the wrong direction!

Beaming mockups!  Quick and dirty:

It's a damn shame, that's what that is.  Once again, the fans are more interested in details than the company built on those details.

fredstar said:

You want real, heres real :-P

 

Check out more images here: http://www.starwarspropaganda.com/yoda.html

Wow.  Now why couldn't all of Lucas' horses and men put something like that together?

Ripplin said:

Wingreen is staying and Morrison's voice will be altered for the PT. That's one of the 'written in stone' audio choices for the Revisited series, and there are no plans for a purist version of ESB:R.

What the buckethead says is the truth.  I'm so excited to only have ONE version of ESBR, instead of the 4 different ANHRs (not including the NTSC/PAL differences).

ANHR has:

XVID AVI which is a different version from the
DVD5 (PAL/NTSC) which is a different version from the
DVD9 (PAL/NTSC) which is a different version from the
PURIST DVD5 NTSC.

ESBR will have:

DVD9 (PAL/NTSC) which will be the same as the
AVCHD (playable in most Blu-ray players)

AND THAT'S IT!

Besides, putting Wingreen's voice back in would be a simple fix to do for the individuals who want to have it.

TV's Frink said:

doubleofive said:

I remember Frank Thomas. I had a few of his cards.  He was my random "favorite player" back when I collected baseball cards.  Does he still play?

;-)

Actually he just officially retired this month, believe it or not.  But he sat out all last year and played very little the few years prior.

Thanks for the offer oh-oh-5.  I'll keep you in mind if we end up short on road kill ;-)

Wow, I was totally joking about Frank Thomas.  Man, you can play baseball forever!

I would join, but I have 0 interest in baseball, and I played fantasy football once, where I never logged in after the draft.  I think I'd be a bit better at football since I understand it a bit more and know some of the players...

I remember Frank Thomas. I had a few of his cards.  He was my random "favorite player" back when I collected baseball cards.  Does he still play? ;-)

But seriously, if you need another body to beat the living crap out of, I can try it.

OH, and one time we did one of those college basketball finals tree things, and I won the award for not getting a single one right!

ThiefCobbler4ever said:

Ripplin said:

^Why doesn't it sound like Vader? He's talking like a condescending jerk. Sounds good to me!

 

I should've been more specific. I meant to say that Vader's voice needs to sound like James Earl Jones for the "Apology accepted, Captain Needa." line. The line as we've all heard it sounds like an Ian McDirmid sound-alike (to me, anyway).

Not sure what you're saying, man.  You think that line sounds like the Emperor?  That's odd, but everyone's ears are different.  Maybe with the 4% speedup of PAL?

Since we don't see the beaming very often (especially since we're cutting the accident) and this is the only movie where you can see the tube-like confinement beam, I say we try to redo the beaming altogether, make it match the rest of the TOS movies.  I'm thinking about watching TMP tonight, but I may just watch the beaming to see if we can do something like that...

UPDATE: Watched the bits, we've got Kirk beaming into the office complex and McCoy onto the Enterprise.  I think there's enough there that we can make new blank background plates and cut out the shapes of the characters to let us do a new transporter effect.  I'm bored on business travel this week, I'll take a crack at new background plates tonight using the HD images from TrekCore, the greatest site for fan editors ever.

It sounds like I'll feel about this like I did about Animatrix and Gotham Knight: mostly meh, but worth watching once.

Bingowings said:

If TMP is to match up more with the OS another big problem is the shuttle bay which is much bigger than the one in the OS (it seems to take up almost all of the ship under the saucer and is on a totally different scale).

It doesn't match up to the more true to the OS shuttle bay we see in TFF (perhaps it may be possible to take the design ethos and colour scheme of TMP and overlay it onto the shuttle bay from TFF).

One matte, easily replaced or eliminated completely!  Unless I'm not remembering clearly and there's another shot of it.

FanFiltration said:

I say we re-fit the sucker from top to bottom if possible (even if it takes 18 months). If we rush it, it will look that way. But I am willing to put my heart into this. It's something I always wanted to do, and as I was doing the Special Longer Version I kept having ideas for a new version. This needs to be radically different then the directors vision. The core story will have to be left much the same, but how we get that plot told is open for any creative changes. I have yet to see the Adywan versions, but from what I have read about them, that is the direction I think we should take.  I just got some new software (Adobe CS4), and would like to train up on it with this project. My friend is all up for doing some radical effects too. We don't want campy or jarring, we want classy and respectful.

Great to hear!

I love how you mention that this needs to be more like an episode of TOS, not the 2001-esque drone it is now.  I did read somewhere that they deliberately avoided battle scenes to make it as different as possible from Star Wars, but it will be nice to have an option to watch something a bit lighter.

So, how far are you planning on going with this edit, FF?  Are we talking Adywan "tear everything apart and put it back together" level effects-wise?  There are enough high-quality 3D models of Star Trek ships that anything is truly possible!  I'm afraid that I'm putting too much faith in our own efforts, but I'd love to watch something that's almost like watching an all-new movie!

Anyway, here's my ROUGH mockup (less quality than my normal mockups, believe it or not) of my vision of Rec Deck Into Starfleet Command:

I added the window where I mentioned, and tried to recolor the walls to be farther from the TMP Enterprise interior and closer to the walls in the courtroom in TVH.  It needs a little more color, the wall with the screen I think needs to be flat and it needs to cover the area with the pictures of the Enterprises.  Maybe update the UFP logo, or replace it with a Starfleet Command logo?

I'm going to Chesapeake this week on a business trip, wanted to see if anyone from the boards here lived nearby and wanted to hang out sometime.

I appreciate Johnny coming in with errors and fixes right off the bat!  As Adywan has proven, the more people suggesting and mocking up, the better the end result.

I like the idea of maybe using the BoP from Enterprise for the opening.  Recolor the purple cloud blue, maybe show that the closer V'ger gets to Earth the less "cloud cover" it has.  I'm not sure if the 100% CGI will look right in this edit, but we really don't know how well the rest of the effects will be cleaned up by FF.  Just trying to minimize the matte lines would go a LONG way is making the effects look better.  The bottom D7 on my DVD cover had a matte line probably 20-30 pixels thick (in the HD image I was using from TrekCore)!

In the Rec Deck into Starfleet Command images, I was thinking the thing that would most obviously change something from being in the middle of a ship to a building on the ground would be windows.  Maybe have that grey box to the left of frame be a slightly darkened (so that we don't have to worry about additional lighting sources) view of the establishing shot from TVH (just the section with the Golden Gate Bridge; as you know, wherever you go in San Fransisco, the Golden Gate Bridge is visible. Just like the Eiffel Tower in Paris.  Movie rules.)

I decided this morning what my ultimate goal with this is: to have my dad enjoy this edit.  My dad loves Star Trek, but hates TMP.  I've tried to tell him that the DE fixes a lot of the boredom problem, but I don't think I've convinced him.  I'd love to take this edit to his house and be able to say that I helped make an edit I knew he'd enjoy.

Dark Lord of Comparisons here, coming at you with my CGI/Puppet Yoda image:

After making this image a few months ago, I decided that I do like the design of the CGI Yoda for the most part.  It really looks like they have the same bone structure, just that in the OT he's malnourished and a bit more frail.  His cheeks are sunken in, etc.  The CGI Yoda reminds me of baby pictures, where your face is round and your bone structure isn't all that noticeable, while Puppet Yoda isn't as well fed and getting well up there in years.

Really, this whole conversation is neither here nor there, I just had to share my comparison because that's my thing.  The only thing I really feel bad about is having to have TPM Puppet Yoda on the picture.  No one needs to see that. ;-)

xhonzi said:

So... Tuesday's episode:

Who was the kid?

Beats me.  Spirit of Jacob as a kid to throw us off?

Whose list was on the cave ceiling?

MIB said Jacob's.

Do the names have The Numbers next to them... or do the numbers have The Names next to them?

ooooo, good point.

Who wants to see a spin-off show about Locke and Ben as history teachers?

A modern Odd Couple.  Genius!

If the alt2004 is "course-correcting" as we watch it... is it possible that like Desmond who was on the plane and then off of it again- that Locke actually DID go on the Walkabout when he was telling Boone about it and then as the plane landed (and Desmond had disappeared) that his legs stopped working, he needed the wheelchair, and he, at that point, didn't go on the walkabout.

Whoa, that would prove interesting.

If Cooper didn't push him out the window to cause his back injury/paralyzation... what did?

Car crash?

Is the alt2004 timeline different not only because of the bomb, but did Jacob not touch the Losties in that timeline?  Is that why Locke is happy, Hugo is lucky, Kate didn't kill her father, and Sawyer (potentially) is not a Con man?

It seems that way, but did Jacob meet with Hurley before he gave him the guitar case in 2007?  I can't remember.  Because Hurley was WAY unlucky before then.

(Who wants to see a spin-off show where every week Sawyer tries to Con Hurley out of his millions, but is foiled until the next week?)

Another genius idea!  You should work for ABC!

If the Valenzetti equation is about manipulating the "variables" (4 8 15 16 23 42) to prevent the end of the world, does the number next to the names in the cave mean that those 6 people are the actual "variables" that must be manipulated to prevent the end of the world?  Without Jacob's touch, are those people unmanipulated and will the alt2004 timeline end with the end of the world?

Makes perfect sense to me.  There is plenty of manipulation going on with those characters.  Most of it by the Smoke Monster, oddly enough.

I had a crazy day at work today (IT, US Military Contractor).  All kinds of calls and problems.  I was stressed this morning, but got over it and by the end of the day I was laughing at the problems.  Server losing 3 GB of memory and restarts every time I try to log in?  Hilarious!

Bingowings said:

They fit in better with the general beigeness (though the one on the end could do with alteration to match the rest).

Right, and I'm sure we can find a hundred line drawings of the original Enterprise to fill that spot.

Couldn't get the picture from Archer's ready room to look like the ones on the Rec Deck, so I just replaced all of the pictures for this mockup:

FanFiltration said:

SilverWook said:

Speaking of the Rec Deck, are you keeping the scene with Decker and the Ilia probe? The idea of adding a picture of the NX-01 to the historical display has been around for a while. ;)

I would very much like to include stuff such as that. What if we could have a photo of the new 2009 movie Enterprise as well? I was never a fan of the Enterprise show, but can understand the desire to want to update that historical photo on the rec deck. 

I'm all about adding the Enterprise Enterprise to the Rec Deck.  In fact, they were thinking about doing that in the DE.  However, how could we justify adding an alternate timeline Enterprise?  It would be like adding the Mirror Universe ISS Enterprise...

4.7 GB is the DVD-5, or as much as a single layer DVD will fit.  It's just the right size for that version.

IV is finished, V is in progress.

vaderios said:

Pfff

It was supposed to be secret

Thank god i lied :D

Now i know the source

 

-Angel

Nooooooooooooo!