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#539441
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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Ginge said:


I definitely would prefer a version with "fixes" that were obviously errors in the original. Things such as Vader's white saber, R2's blue panels in space, the revised guards at the end ceremony in Star Wars always look "off" to me. However, it's Harmy's project and I respect his decisions. I would also "fix" the imperial badges in Empire, etc.. but I guess we could always insert that stuff ourselves if we really need to see them that badly.
Yes, you can do it yourself. That's what started this whole project!

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Empire-Strikes-Back-1980-Theatrical-version-Reconstruction-Adywan/post/415915/#TopicPost415915

In all honesty, I think there should be sometime similar to what you're describing: something with fixes, but not edit changes. But Harmy doesn't have to do it.

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#539428
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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Leadingman said:


I've downloaded Jedi and Star Wars so far. I'm truly impressed with your work. If you're still tinkering with Star Wars, which I believe I read that you are, then I wanted to give some constructive criticism.

1) The blue saber fix in the training on the falcon scene has some black flicker towards the hilt in several shots.

2) I'm curious why you left Vader's saber as white as he approaches the door after he's "killed" Obi Wan. I know this was an original mistake but in Hi Def, it really sticks out, and you seemed to have no problem fixing the other saber shots. All in the name of original preservation I suppose.

3) During the trench run, several shots of Luke have a blue hue to them from the bluescreen.

That's it. I'm really happy with everything and very much admire your passion and dedication to these restorations. Is there a fund where we can donate charity contributions for all of your hard work?
The project is a restoration of the original version, with its flaws. It is not a fix project.

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#539263
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Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes
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Added none's shots from the lightsaber duels to the 2011 Comps. The ANH ones are all brightness adjustments of the whole frame, and all of the RotJ ones saves for the Emperor cross are new cores. Check this out:

http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-b-1iW-xqIrI/TnqAHg4HzGI/AAAAAAAAIsA/lQjklgPKGo4/s640/JediSaber-09.jpg

How did that happen in 04? 97 has the same bright core as the original that masks out the background.

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#539211
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Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes
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zombie84 said:


LOL, just so we're clear here: the shot of Han saying "(Yes,) I bet you have" is shorter by a few frames in both versions of the SE, correct? Because if it is, I haven't included it.
Yes, it is shorter on the front part and the end in the SEs. They cut out the video for "Yes" and the screen going white in close up as Han shoots through the table.

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#539147
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Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes
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zombie84 said:


Before I post the spread I just want to clean it up a bit. I also have a couple questions

-Ben at the tractor-beam matte painting: unchanged in the SE?

-Greedo and Han: is it just the one shot of them firing, or did they delete, shorten or alter the shot of Greedo exploding? The album just lists the wideshot of them firing but I thought there was more.
I believe you can cut out the wide shot and recreate the exact original version. Which makes Greedo shooting a 4.

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#539132
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Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes
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zombie84 said:


Here's a question: is there a single visual effects shot in the film that isn't changed?? When I was going through the list the only ones that I noticed were missing was the "Here they come" scene and a couple of cockpit point of views. You don't list the shot of the SD going towards the DS, but I don't remember seeing any matte lines on that in SE, but maybe I'm just not remembering it correctly. It would be interesting now to catalog the shots that have not been re-comped or touched in any way. There's probably only a handful of them! This would be an interesting analysis to use in that you can scientifically say that 90% of the Oscar-winning visual effects have been removed (and yes--to me, the composite is the effect; a model against bluescreen is not the visual effect, anyone can film that, it was the way they were put together that was pioneering).
Beats me. Like I said, they said they recomposited everything, and the pictures given in some of my SE research are IDENTICAL to the original. Either this is like the "say that snowspeeder transparency has been eliminated by showing a shot where they clearly haven't been", or we're missing a lot of even more subtle changes.

none said:


Could we get this excel doc?  Or have a version everyone could update: http://www.google.com/google-d-s/spreadsheets/
Yes, Google Docs...

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#539091
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Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes
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zombie84 said:


So, I did an experiment last night with ANHSE by making a spreadsheet cataloging the changes. I used 005's changes album as the reference, but there were shots in the saber duel that he didn't include (an other shots had multiple pics for a single shot) so I had to go through that shot by shot myself to get each cut; there were a lot. I suspect this may also be the case with the trench run regarding some of the cockpit BG replacements, as the changes album only includes the one shot of Luke. So, my spreadsheet might need to have more added. The 2011 changes aren't included, but I did note when the 2004 version introduced something or modified something, but I didn't include the 1981 crawl as a change.
NICE! This is great, I love solid fact numbers. Sorry about the duel, I wanted to get all of the saber shots AND all of the flashes where you couldn't see the sabers very well, so there was a lot of doubling. You said I missed some though? And the cockpit backgrounds?

I noticed that several of the "we had to go through all of the trench footage to find the ones to recomposite suchandsuch shot" shots have never been pointed out as being changed from our nearly frame-by-frame analysis. We notice the ones where they reposition the ships ever so slightly, but what about the ones they actually did perfectly?

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#539072
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Star Wars Blu Ray Impressions
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LexX said:


WhatsMyName said:

Things i've noticed in the Blu Ray:

TPM: Lights added on back of sith probes, CGI yoda included this time. I couple more added Podrace scenes to the already added scenes.

AOTC: Just a couple expansions on scenes to show more of the envirnment.

ROTS: Nothing noticeable

ANH: When on the cliff looing out to Mos Eisly, a couple more ships are seen taking off. Added one shot with lasers coming from the Falcon in the death star escape scene. Obi-Wan's Krayt Dragon call was a mix of both the Original, SE, and some added effects.

ESB: Tuan Tuans blink a couple times. The line, "You could use a good kiss" is gone. Possibly another Tie fighter/Bomber or SD added in the Empire Reveal scene.

ROTJ: Sebulba like character enters the main room in Jabba's palace while LUke is confronting Oliff. Added a scene where the Falcon flys past the bridge of the SD after the Tie Fighter crashes into it. When the SSD crashes into the Death Star, you can see the Star Destroyer fleet above. Darth Vader does the "No" line twice. Once very suttle, the other one the same as ROTS only shortened.
Are these for real? Most of these haven't been mentioned by anyone else, at least what I've seen. I don't mean the rocks and nooos of course but Han's line, added ships and scenes.
According to the DIF Project, these are not actual changes, just things that were always there that someone just noticed when they were looking for changes.

Kind of like I would have listed a thousand things in 1997 after seeing the movies in widescreen for the first time that I thought they added.

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#538973
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Idea: 35mm Transfer - make a preservation project from it?
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joshdv said:


I think one major hurdle is the cost but to be economical you could just scan in the parts that were specialized.  people seem to forget that we already have about 80% of the original unaltered trilogy in HD.
All of the wipes were redone, so technically that would be a good representation of the originals, but not the "unaltered" version.

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#538729
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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Angel said:



doubleofive said:

I can say that the donation drive went very well, though! We thank you for your generosity, we'll all benefit from it soon enough!
"We?"

Are you the official spokesman?It must be tough :/

-Angel
We take turns, nothing official. I just wanted to bring us back to topic.