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That's one good thing about them not messing with the colors, I guess!

adywan said:

ESB:R will be a mixture of HDTV and Blu-Ray sources, with the Blu-Ray being the main source for the edit. I'm just completing transferring the colour correction to the Blu-Ray and then i'll be reapplying the FX work to the sections that are using the new source.

So this is an all new sound element? Well, new to us...

Thanks none, I was hoping this might get spun off, much too technical for me. ;-)

So, of the Blu-ray changes we know about, I'm missing a shot of the Cloud City furnace (a nice frame I think with Chewie's arm over it, maybe the wipe if if looks reredone), and several of the Ewok eyes. I liked having the choice of frames, but maybe they could be marked by scene, sometimes I get lost in the movies.

Apparently the rule is HD for HD.

Bingowings said:

DVDActive has an example of new Beru dialog ("tell Uncle" is now "tell your Uncle"). Is that from the mono mix?

I just found this blog entry I wrote 7 years ago:

Monday, 20 September 2004
Q: Do you pay much attention to fan reactions to your choices?

LUCAS: Not really. The movies are what the movies are. ... The thing about science-fiction fans and "Star Wars" fans is they're very independent-thinking people. They all think outside the box, but they all have very strong ideas about what should happen, and they think it should be their way. Which is fine, except I'm making the movies, so I should have it my way.
(from CNN.com)

This is like George Lucas grabbing our VHS copies of the original trilogy and beating us with them, screaming "Mine!" like some flannelled 6-year old. Come on George. He says that the original trilogy we grew up with was incomplete and that he's "sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it."

Can I love a movie series and hate the person who made it, especially the way he treats it now? I grew up with these films, all I ask for it a decent transfer of what I was perfectly happy with literally my entire life. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what he's trying to do with Special Edition and the DVD Specialer Edition, I just want a choice.

*gets off of soapbox*

The hologram looks great, but R2 seems a little too blue.

FYI

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SilverWook said:

It's interesting the matte paintings are about the shape and size of our modern video displays. The comparison wipes between them and movie footage leads to one goof though. The original Cloud City apartment painting wipes to it's CGI replacement. Whoops.

Maybe they tried to fix it in the 80s, then fixed it again in the 90s?

kenkraly2007 said:

Yes to a extent some of the problems with the colors where fixed some where not.  

I love it when we find stuff like this.

zombie84 said:

Yup, I just checked it and that shot is the one with the huge gash right through R2D2, it looks like the tear was held back together with glue. No doubt this would have been replaced for the 1997 with a replica from an alternate source, and this is assuredly the reason for the framing difference.

elmshield said:

and further in their defence, the one that made threepio explode was pretty accurate earlier on in the film..

msycamore said:

zombie84 said:
I may have an answer.

Wasn't that the one shot with that really big negative tear on it? If so, they would have replaced it with a duplicate material, maybe the IP, which might have had slightly tighter framing just from being copied.

Could be the case, but those frames in the GOUT are pretty fucked up by the DVNR, maybe that's why you have the difference, motion trailing.

I wasn't busy and there are now links to the comps on an article thanks to Harmy, so I uploaded it right quick:

zombie84 said:

I may have an answer.

Wasn't that the one shot with that really big negative tear on it? If so, they would have replaced it with a duplicate material, maybe the IP, which might have had slightly tighter framing just from being copied.

Thanks for the mention!

The GOUT is pretty notorious for having weird framing (see every shot of RotJ), so I think we'd have to find this framing in all of the other OUT preservations. Gentlemen?

walking_carpet said:

can a movie be made about teenagers in the year 2000 come out today and show the same time of changes?

Apparently I grew up with the speed-compressed CED of Star Wars recorded to VHS, so I'm interested in a preservation.

Jason73 said:

Hi all, I'm kind of new to this format.  What determines what Blu-Ray players can properly play AVCHD burned on DVD R+DL discs?  I have had pretty good luck so far, but I have a friend who says his BR player can't play them?  I've looked on-line a bit but not found any solid information. 

Does it have to do with firmware updates? Brands?.  I'm a little confused.

 

Jason

Harmy said:

Also, that is quite funny reading that Ady's ESB Reconstruction thread now, 005, thanks for the link :-)

Ginge, I'm quite sure 005 linked to that to illustrate the "you can do it yourself" point, no to point out Ady's reconstruction. Also I'm pretty sure that you're thinking Revisited, as Ady's reconstruction didn't take any creative  liberties, it was basically the same as Despecialized, only in SD and some of the minor fixes of the kind you ask for left in (like the shadows on Han's shoulders).