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oh_riginal said:

Shots of the extras panicking in Airplane! could be intercut with the crash landing on Coruscant. The score from the movie could replace the actual score. Palpatine could possibly utter the "I just want to tell you two, good luck. We're all counting on you" line.

fgqb#19nyj said:

Hey, Ade, any chance there'll be an ESB Purist edition, too? Just wondering...

Thanks for the heads up, Tobar, watched it this morning. FANtastic!

They went to the original film to restore it in HD. Are the TV versions really HD?

Trekkie313 said:

So does anyone know if the current television version of TWOK is the same as the directors cut DVD?

Moth3r said:

And if I don't receive a satisfactory explanation as to why Yodaman97 is posting from the same IP as MichaelGonJinn in the next 24 hours the account will be banned.

I love love love that we're using actual models.

DE has seen Generations and First Contact. Which is good enough, honestly.

If you have an iOS device, you should check out Star Trek Rivals. Cute little card game. My friend code is ILJTFK.

https://search.itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZContentLink.woa/wa/link?mt=8&path=apps%2fstartrekrivals

They might keep the same look and feel. They won't care, as this time, they'll have it on their network.

You don't have to be online constantly. You DO have to have the Kinect on constantly.

You know, we can complain all we want about neither system being backwards compatible, but that just means that we are free to jump ship this generation. If I still have to pay for Gold just to watch Netflix, I'll probably jump ship, or just get a Roku.

Warbler said:

doubleofive said:

(at this point if you believe the universes were identical before Nero came, then you're crazy),

um . . . isn't that whole basis for this alternate timeline, that Nero changed time and that why everything so different from the universe of the original Trek?

Warbler said:

doubleofive said:

it could be a CG Ricardo Maltaban (they won't go back to the well, why not?).

with all the other characters being played by different actors, it wouldn't make sense for Maltaban to still be Khan.    There is also another problem: Maltaban is dead.

Watched "Name of the Doctor" yesterday, still in awe of how well that reveal at the end was. Theories for the 50th now that it's set up?

Alright, saw it last Thursday, thought about it for a few days, and saw it again last night. I thought it was tons of fun. THIS is what the comics were preparing us for. Orci said that the comics contained a clue to the content of Into Darkness, what we didn't realize is that the comics WERE the clue. They took the classic episodes we all know, then updated them and changed them around. I have to admit, I was upset when they were setting up the Kirk/Spock glass scene till I remembered that this is what the comics were doing and I loved the comics.

Speaking of the comics/tie-ins, while a few details got shout-outs, most of it was contradictory.

"The Mudd Incident": If they are referring to the "Countdown To Darkness" series, you'd think they'd call it the "April Incident", since while the ship may have been Bajoran Chick Mudd's, the main issue was the former captian of (an) Enterprise, Robert April showing up after being presumed dead and then taking over the ship.

"How many people have I lost? NONE.": Several people die in the comics. Including Kirk's friend Gary Mitchell.

The Gorn: McCoy mentions helping a Gorn give birth to octuplets. Unfortunately, the "Gorn" are supposedly introduced in the "canon" Video Game as an alien agressor from ANOTHER GALAXY whom the crew are introduced to and wipe out during the course of the game. McCoy is indeed in sickbay ("Medbay", they call it in the Game for some reason) with Gorn, but they're all male and all trying to kill him.

NX-01: I love that Marcus has models in his office which include all of the ships from the intro to "Enterprise" including NX-01. The issue would be that we see an NX class ship in the comics, and it has nacelles more similiar to all of the others in this new universe. Not that we can trust the comics' potrayal of ships, the Mirror Universe comics have the JJ Universe crew flying around in the Enterprise Refit from the original films.

I'm not saying you shouldn't read the comics, you should, I'm just saying that they don't do very well with the very simple "canon" they've set themselves up with.

There were some things I didn't like. I didn't like the use of Spock Prime. What's humorous is that it played EXACTLY how I mocked on one of the Trek podcasts we recorded months ago. I haven't found which episode, but I remember exactly what I said:

"They can't have Spock Prime in the movie. That'd be dumb. What are they going to do, have Spock call and say 'Hey, we ran into a guy named Khan. Do you know him?' 'Yeah, he's totally evil.' 'How'd you beat him?' 'I died.'"

You could lose that scene and nothing of the main film would be different. What's really sad is Nimoy tweeted before the movie came out here in the States that he was honored to have a surprise cameo talking about Khan, which ruined two pretty big reveals.

I do kind of wish that Cumberbatch played a different Augment. Not just because he's white (at this point if you believe the universes were identical before Nero came, then you're crazy), but because a lot of the "retread" complaining would be nipped in the bud. Or have him CLAIM to be Khan, even to Marcus, then at the end when they show all of the cryotubes and it pans over to show the contents of one, it could be a CG Ricardo Maltaban (they won't go back to the well, why not?).

I'm still not sure about the revamped interior of Engineering. I just assumed they didn't show the Warp Core in 09, and that it would be the same tech from the original. Then it shows up looking like something from NASA, which I suppose is more "real"... See, I just don't know.

I do think playing with the sacrifice at the end was pretty smart. Instead of Spock sacrificing himself because it was logical and the culmination of 15 years of friendship, it was the catalyst that makes the crew an unbreakable bond. The film explores a lot of deeper elements, about emotion, war, terror, and other things. I appreciated that.

Overall, I feel that it's a fun twist on the Khan story, with twists & turns NO ONE saw coming. I would recommend it to anyone.

CP3S said:

I asked because in the new film Kirk states that he hasn't lost a single crew member since taking command of the Enterprise, in defense of his brash decision making.

Yes, they do at least two or three during Galelieo 7. The movie references but is not bound to the comics. And 100% not bound to the game. I'll go into that on the spoilers thread later.

I saw the movie, it was unexpected. I'll leave it at that.

Hey, it's me. said:

doubleofive said:

I still can't get over the fact that the Jedi uniforms in the prequels are what Obi-wan wears in A New Hope because its what Obi-wan wears, but no one noticed that everyone on Tattooine wears the same clothes and it wouldn't make sense for a Jedi in hiding to dress like a Jedi.

I don't know but seeing as though he was in hiding, I don't think mingling with the locals was on his agenda. Maybe when he ventured into Mos Eisley to get supplies he didnt wear his robe. Shrug.

I still can't get over the fact that the Jedi uniforms in the prequels are what Obi-wan wears in A New Hope because its what Obi-wan wears, but no one noticed that everyone on Tattooine wears the same clothes and it wouldn't make sense for a Jedi in hiding to dress like a Jedi.

Tobar said:

Yay, I'm not the only one that has to wait until Thursday!

Roddenberry was a creative consultant in the later Trek movies. They'd open the door, ask Gene "What do you think?", then close the door as he started saying how much he hated it.

OMG WHAT THE HECK

mikeaz123 said:

I'm trying to track down a reel 1 from the SE release, but I'm told there were several changes in that reel from the original version.

nightstalkerpoet said:

Maybe that hologram could be a montage of the best lines from "Jack and Jill"?

For those that aren't aware, he's a picture of one of the sex scenes from The Room when it's aired on Cartoon Network.

TV's Frink said:

How about a love scene from The Room?