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#934267
Topic
team negative1 - star wars 1977 - 35mm theatrical version (Released)
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Williarob said:

slumberdore said:

Have the lasers which were accidentally removed in the cleanup been restored?

No, I didn’t even know about that until a couple of days ago, and by then the video was all encoded. I did confirm that the lasers are there in the original frames, and will make sure that if there is another version (probably from Poita’s Scan) that they will be restored, but I’m not going to waste a couple of days just to put back in a single laser bolt that is visible only for a single frame, and which you won’t miss when it’s gone even if you know it should have been there. If YOU want to restore it after you download 1.5, by all means do so.

I did restore the technician’s leg in the very first frame of Reel 6, which had also been cleaned up accidentally in version 1.0, though nobody seems to have noticed that one yet. I only fixed this because I happened to see it while GOUT syncing the reel changes.

I did actually scan through most of the film and perform additional clean up, but it’s considerably more difficult to spot things that are missing, unless they are also on adjacent frames. Anyway, my point is that there are probably thousands of clean up errors like this throughout the entire film. We cleaned as much of it as possible, by hand, frame by frame, but we’re only human. The task was monumental, and tedious, and sometimes mistakes were made or shortcuts taken. (This isn’t Legacy Edition, kids, but hey, at least you get to watch this one.) At 23.976 fps, almost none of these little things are visible, but go frame by frame, especially in a split screen with another source, and you’ll probably find a lot of things that were accidentally removed and a whole bunch of other little pieces of dirt that are still there.

This does indeed read like it is going to be a very desirable source to have, and thanks to all, for performing this monumental task!

Is there a certain date that you are looking at to introduce the video?

dlvh

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#931874
Topic
Estimating the original colors of the original Star Wars trilogy
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DrDre said:

Darth Lucas said:

DrDre said:
Seems odd to worry about putting on the frosting, before you have baked a cake.

Beautifully put. I kind of want this written on a motivational poster in my office.

Ever tried to put a cake in the oven, with the frosting on top… 😉 Not a pretty sight.

Yikes…I am NOT cleaning up the mess that is going to make!

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#918860
Topic
Star Wars Trilogy SE bluray color regrade (a WIP)
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Dreamaster said:

bishabosha said:

Updated Silver Screen 35mm CC based on DrDre’s new grab:


OMG! I was just telling my wife I was wishing it was possible to apply Dr Dre’s work to the silver screen edition! Keep going man this thread is turning into something really special!

I’ll happily 2nd that opinion! I’d personally like to see what the Luke trying out his new light saber shot looks like.

Here’s a screenshot from the SSE:

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#918358
Topic
Star Wars Trilogy SE bluray color regrade (a WIP)
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Spaced Ranger said:

DrDre said:

The problem is not in the algorithm, but in the quality of the reference. …
So, if the reference is of high enough quality, the algorithm can probably reproduce it, to a high degree of accuracy. …
The algorithm is in a sense a form of automated curves adjustment. … The curves are adjusted, by matching the cumulative probability distributions for the red, green, and blue channels.

If the source wasn’t damaged as much as is the Star Wars Blu-ray (crushed, blown, stretched, noised), that would be half-the-battle won. Perhaps a uniform (read “simple”) prep to roughly “straighten the picture” might lessen your need to tweak so much.

I took the Blu-ray picture through 2 passes of JPEG-DNR (1st low, 2nd high) to reduce that awful Lucas-noise™ on everything (no, those aren’t age spots on Tarkin's skin; Luke has them, too) while minimizing edge blurring (multiple “lower” passes do better than one “maximum” pass) . .

and an R-G-B contrast adjustment (to a rough approximation of the reference) while setting an upper & lower headroom for the crushed & blown picture . .

That’s it! Simple settings, quick to do, and now it’s prepped (for your regrade) . .

Actually, the prep-result looks amazingly good, with colors magically coming close to on-the-set reality. (The way it was messed up, the entire Blu-ray should be dealt with this easily.)

And, no, I didn’t cheat. Check out this sequence comparison with a full-size area for close inspection. I included an extra column to show the result if DNR is skipped. SPOILER: the noise gets noticeably worse (!) because normal contrasting, needed to bring the picture back, emphasizes that, too.

Top-row is the Blu-ray; Middle-row is JPEG-DNR; Bottom-row is contrast & headroom adjustment:

I wonder if the full-size prepped picture, run it through your regrade process, would come out looking more (or exactly) like your reference picture of choice?

Can these settings be applied to the entire movie before working in a program such as Adobe Premiere?