darth_ender

^Like :)

Hmmm...let us know when the good news is that you guys have remained sober for a while ;)

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Oh don't be silly, you worded it fine.  I'm just joshin' ya.  Hang in there my friend.  :)

TV's Frink said:

Also, lol bunny skyscraper.

 Pics or it didn't happen ;)

You're the man, ray :)

What do you mean by "coming from you"?  That sure was rude!  Gosh!

I'm totally kidding ;)

In all seriousness, I really do hope you find work soon.  It's hard to go without, it's especially hard to get fired.  Keep fighting the good fight.  You'll be able to provide for your family :)

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Sorry bud.  It would have been better for you to slide your rook across towards your king.  Now normally I like a swift kill, but I think I will offer you the option to take back if you like.  It's really your only hope, as actually doing what I'd hoped (that is, capturing my silver) will spell your doom.

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If I were to edit the PT, I would make AOTC into Episode I, keep ROTS as Episode III, and squeeze TCW as Episode II.  But since that probably wouldn't do the series justice, I think this sounds like the next best thing.  It seems this series should be sandwiched between good edits of the latter two of the PT, and call the whole thing the real set of prequels.  I have to check this out!

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Your measly defenses have proven effective at this moment, but victory will be mine!  Mwahahaha!   }8D

Well, things aren't lost yet.  I can't keep up my momentum.  I see one way to ensure short term capture of your rook, but it would require too much sacrificed material.  So now I have to take a couple of turns which allows you time to get some breathing room. :(

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DominicCobb said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Yet another round of bickering sparked off by a Nolan film. *le sigh*

But not about the film's quality, thankfully!

I see Interstellar as a film about evolution and compassion and the triumph of the human spirit. 

The film is certainly touching on the religious tenants of faith and love (note the prominent organ - Nolan as admitted as much, but as far as I know the man himself is nonreligious), but, as Ryan said, it is essentially areligious. It's of course interesting to look at it from a religious perspective. It's almost like the closest thing you can get to an atheist's religious movie. We don't believe in God, but we do believe that there will be something after us, and that, someday, humanity will evolve. I have faith, or at least I hope, that, when we do evolve into greater beings, that love, peace, compassion, and altruism will be our primary values.

Of course, part of the beauty of the film is that you don't have to view that way. You can easily see it as a reflection of religious values and I'm sure Nolan would be okay with that. At the end of the day, it's really a story about a man who loves his daughter, and a woman who loves her father. I think anyone, regardless of religious affiliation, can see the beauty in that.

 Thanks Dom.  As I said above, I just see a little tiny leap to go from areligious to religious.  But in the essentials, my initial point is what you were saying, and I don't want anyone to get offended at that.  It's common ground, not division.  We both want more, believe in more, see greatness in humanity's capacity, see something far reaching in love.  And it is a beautiful and touching film.  I really enjoyed it.

I don't think we are bickering and I don't want to argue.  I don't even see why people keep coming to conclusions I clearly did not type or intend.  I just find it interesting that people, even atheists, find value in a movie that promotes faith, in spite of the fact that they themselves do not have such faith, at least in a religious sense.  It to me shows that people want to believe in something greater, even if it's not God.  Or in other words...

Ryan McAvoy said:

Faith is a strong theme....Religion doesn't have a monopoly on that, or love, or imagination.

The only point where I see a departure in Ryan's and my points of view is that I think a belief in God is no big leap when most atheists already want to believe in something greater, whether they've acknowledged such or not.  But I'm not compelling anyone to believe such, nor am I saying that a belief system should be built around a movie.

SPOILERS:

I've been wanting to discuss this, and since the line that "humanity saved itself" was already brought up, I want to point out the inherent paradox.  How did humanity save itself?  By already having been saved, they are able to evolve and come back and save humanity.  But how could they have been saved and thus come back, unless someone saved them.  Oh, but someone did: humans who had already been saved and then evolved, thus saving those humans and allowing them to evolve.  It's a paradox!  Oh no!  It's like the watch in Somewhere in Time.  Where did it first come from???  Just thought I'd point that out.

Very cool.  You've got a good family.  You should send me some of those Canadian dollars and stuff my semi-empty pockets ;)

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I said I didn't want to debate it, not that I didn't want to discuss it, silly.  I know what you are saying.  I know how scientific Matthew McConaughey's character is (though I don't remember anything specifically anti-religious), and how extremely scientific the film is.

Let's see what I said, since it is apparently causing offense:

darth_endersaid:

Frozen clouds and mile high tidal waves in a 3 foot deep ocean are the most obvious issues, since the relativistic physics are largely beyond most people's full grasp and were actually handled pretty well from my limited understanding and research following my viewing.  Definitely a touching movie.

I must say that I find it interesting how many atheists enjoy the movie, when the movie itself makes such a case for love breaking barriers imposed by cold, precise, exacting physics.  To me, if one can buy the hope of such a premise, one can buy the hope of a Being whose very purpose is based on love which, according to Interstellar, can surpass our knowledge of physics.  I don't want to get into any religious debates over this, but it's just a bit of food for thought.

Note again, I don't want to debate.

But I am just saying that if one can appreciate the movie, one can appreciate faith.  That is all.  I'm not saying you have to have it.  I only "find it interesting."  Keep on as you were.  Just don't get offended by what I am not saying.

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So I forget all you've told me.  You are now living in Quebec, correct?  But since it's so francophone there, it's hard to get work.  And without the license, that too is difficult.  But you know, studies come first, then money.  I didn't get a real job till 17, and the same thing with my license.  It took me a little longer, but it was nice when it finally came.

SilverWook said:

Han and Luke wore their regular clothes under the armor you know.

 Sure, ruin my joke, why don't ya?

Possessed said:

Atheists can love... and it's a movie not something to base your life around.

Still though, I found it to be extremely emotional and touching.

 I don't remember saying atheists can't love.  Nor did I say that film is something to base one's life on.  What I am saying is this: we all hope to some extent that love reaches deeper than our understanding, that it can bring us truth that science alone cannot.  Most religious people embrace this, while atheists will value love for its evolutionary/survival value, but ultimately "know" that humanity is a single species on a small planet orbiting an average sized star in a smaller than average galaxy out of billions of galaxies, and that our love does not surpass the cold, harsh reality imposed by science.

This movie exemplifies that hope that I think most of us really have.  People want to have faith in something greater, even if they do not actually have such faith.

Sure!  I'm of course just giving you a hard time.  It's a great list.  I'm sure mine is much bigger, hence the joking insult.  I may get around to posing that list some day, but it would take a looooooong time to put together.

If you're talking about Ben seeing Han in his Scooby Doo chonies, I'm totally with ya.

I think the url at the bottom is incorrect.  Shouldn't it read facebook.com/travestyillustrations?

Wuss.

Not only make Wicket blink in a creepy fashion in ROTJ, but make his eyes and teeth closer to the Ewok movies for continuity.

...And make him extra touchy and friendly when he meets Leia.