darth_ender

Yes, it’s much better not to offer a suggestion to someone who may need help than to offer help to someone who may not need it. Better to err on the side of risk.

Geez, there is no end to imperialscum’s annoying nature.

Anyway, I agree, it is worth considering seeking help if you feel your mood declines sufficiently. I applaud you, Possessed, for your sobriety. As I’ve stated before, I work on the psych floor of a hospital, and I see how difficult substance dependence can be.

I remember many of my interactions and regretted statements on this forum. I remember our first direct encounter included an insult by me. I don’t even know if you remember. But I have to say that I apologize for that insult, and I want you to know that you are actually one of my favorite posters on this site. I still check it daily, and I enjoy reading your posts.

Now her mom may have just had a stroke. I sure hope not!

Borrow Diego Luna’s line from The Terminal when he’s just wrapped up his argument with Jyn: “She’s a Trekkie? She’s a Trekkie!”

I’ve only seen a few versions in my lifetime. Grew up on the Finney version, as my family is find of musicals. Still love the music. Saw the George C. Scott version for the first time while helping Santa wrap the kids’late Christmas Eve. Loved that version a great deal!

^, ^^ Dually noted.

^Noted in a dull manner?

Wait, does this mean he doesn’t believe the Westboro Baptist Church is real?

TV’s Frink said:

Just in case anyone was wondering.

PM not sent.

^Why is Mr. Howard only allowed to rest one foot?

Coming from you, that’s high praise indeed!

canofhumdingers said:

Anchorhead said:

I agree with pointing out the lack of consistency in criticizing elements of the movies. I’ve been a vocal critic of the silliness of Imperial Walkers for decades. However, I appreciate the visual. It makes for an imposing presence and it’s cool for the audience. I thought they were interesting visually in 1980 and I think they’re interesting visually now.

To be clear, if you can do this;

You wouldn’t be bothering with this;

I’ve not been following this thread too closely (so tired of all the bickering, first with TFA, and now Rogue One). So apologies if I’m missing the point. But in ESB, the walkers were sent to take out the shield generator. We saw in R1 what happens when a ship flies into a planetary shield… And (I can’t believe I’m saying this) we saw in The Phantom Menace that walking slowly through an energy shield works. So maybe the imperial navy had every intention of sending a star destroyer down into the atmosphere on Hoth…?

As for the logicalness of walkers, they actually make a lot of sense in forrests or really steep and jagged/loose terrain. The original AT-ATs were inspired by an actual military research project.

I did a little research on this because I was interested in your response. From what I can tell, yes, there have been several projects researching walker technology, including military application. Nevertheless, I still stand by my statement for the following reasons: 1) our terrestrial technology does not include the superiority of hover technology; 2) wheels remain superior in level terrain in terms of speed and stability (which the Hoth battlefield was); 3) the AT-AT limbs are relatively inflexible, with each joint capable of bending only in specific directions; in other words, there are no socket joints, making stability a greater issue (imagine climbing uneven terrain with pelvic joints that bend only forward or back); 4) the AT-ATs are extremely top-heavy, with legs twice the height of the body proper, making tipping even more likely. I still feel that the Empire possessed technology that would render walkers inferior.

That said, I still believe the walkers are extremely fun and interesting. I don’t watch Star Wars to nitpick. I don’t watch it to be impressed by its realism. I watch it to escape reality and simply enjoy the fun of it. If we wanted, we could point out that small ships should not fly like aerial craft, that laws of inertia are largely ignored, and that ships have an apparent maximum sublight speed. We could complain about the fact that sound cannot exist in space, and if it did, that it travels so slowly compared to light that from the distances we are observing many things, we would notice a delay between the action and the time the correlated sound reaches us. We could point out that ships can travel in reverse in spite of engines that only face backward, that they can slow just as quickly as they accelerate without the powerful engines required to truly do so, that wings folding and unfolding is a needless use of mechanics when it makes no difference in space (and probably serves no purpose in atmosphere either, which in turn is another opportunity for something to break down. We could argue about how in the “perfect” film The Empire Strikes Back, the Millennium Falcon can travel from system to system at sublight speeds, that Luke can apparently breathe in a previously decompressed massive chamber with only a small chamber to supply air through an even smaller broken window without any ill effects. We could even complain about how Luke gets sucked into a tube on the side of that massive chamber in a room that apparently has little to no air under normal circumstances.

But why would I complain about facts, when I’m trying to enjoy science fantasy?

(Note to canofhumdingers, I am directing most of my argument to those who criticize the use of AT-ATs and other unrealistic aspects of Rogue One, and all that is really directed at you is my reason why I believe in a realistic setting, walkers would not be advisable. Again, I am happy to watch a piece of fiction and am happy with unrealistic things as long as they fit with established suspension of disbelief.)

Tyrphanax said:

canofhumdingers said:

Anchorhead said:

I agree with pointing out the lack of consistency in criticizing elements of the movies. I’ve been a vocal critic of the silliness of Imperial Walkers for decades. However, I appreciate the visual. It makes for an imposing presence and it’s cool for the audience. I thought they were interesting visually in 1980 and I think they’re interesting visually now.

To be clear, if you can do this;

You wouldn’t be bothering with this;

I’ve not been following this thread too closely (so tired of all the bickering, first with TFA, and now Rogue One). So apologies if I’m missing the point. But in ESB, the walkers were sent to take out the shield generator. We saw in R1 what happens when a ship flies into a planetary shield… And (I can’t believe I’m saying this) we saw in The Phantom Menace that walking slowly through an energy shield works. So maybe the imperial navy had every intention of sending a star destroyer down into the atmosphere on Hoth…?

As for the logicalness of walkers, they actually make a lot of sense in forrests or really steep and jagged/loose terrain. The original AT-ATs were inspired by an actual military research project.

Yeah, the initial Imperial plan was to sneak up on the system, drop out of hyperspace right on top of the planet, and orbitally-bombard the Rebels into spacedust.

The whole reason the Empire sent the AT-ATs was because Ozzel dropped out of lightspeed too close to the planet. This alerted the Rebels to the presence of the Imperial fleet, giving them time to raise their shield (“strong enough to deflect any bombardment”). It’s all right there in the movie!

But considering the planetary shield only covered a portion of the planet, couldn’t the star destroyers have descended into the atmosphere outside the reach of the shields and then approached Echo Base?

That said, the old pre-PT EU made it so that star destroyers were restricted from atmospheric travel, as were most other capital ships. I wish this was something that remained true, but obviously it has been completely cast aside. It was a logical restriction, and it did better explain the need for a land battle like that portrayed in TESB.

MalàStrana said:

It’s a fan film: the story is pointless and filled with various elements that make no sense (a walker within the city ? Is it the best weapon for this kind of environnement ?) just because they want to put a “SW skin” on it. But on the other hand it’s technically well made; it costed quite a lot so this is the minimum we can expect. It’s a well made fan film if you want. The actors… let’s say they try their best, which is not enough since the screenwriter didn’t do his job to develop correctly the characters.

A walker doesn’t make sense in any context. If you are going to criticize what is actually logical and congruent with other movies taking place in the same era, you might as well be fair. Walkers are slow and unstable, and when you have hover technology and speedy engines, why would you rely on quadrupedal machines? Heck, the ancient wheel is a more logical means of mobility for large machines. What advantage do walkers have? They are visually interesting for movie-goers. We are watching a fictional movie, and a little fan-service that also happens to make perfect military sense (the artillery was called in from an external area when the destruction of the facility on Scarif outweighed preserving the schematics for all those secret projects). If you’re going to be a party-pooper, might as well take it to its logical conclusions and point out how dumb walkers are in the first place.

I loved the movie and would only recommend a couple of changes:

I understand why they didn’t use an opening crawl, but I think I’d enjoy the movie a bit more if they added one.

I was a little annoyed that the Tantive IV was jettisoned from the larger ship at the end. They should have transmitted the Death Star plans to Leia rather than physically putting a copy in her hands. Yes, there is an argument to be made that Leia was just stalling for time when she said, “I don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m a member of the Imperial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan.” That is a pretty lousy lie, considering Vader just watched your very ship jump into hyperspace to escape the battle over Scarif, but sure, there is an argument there. But Vader shortly after says, “I have traced the Rebel spies to her. Now she is my only link to finding their secret base.” To me that sounds like Vader and crew had to do a little sleuthing and it took a bit of time to catch up to them. You don’t “trace” a bunch of spies to a ship you just watched fly away.

I hope it could be possible for a fan editor to make it appear as if the plans were forwarded to Leia aboard the Tantive IV.

Everyone who finds R1 to be a terrible movie is a pretentious and prejudiced whiner.

Objectively speaking, of course 😉

I guess the whole ploy of saying my wife is named Dominique Obb didn’t work, did it? 😞

My wife’s and my ten year anniversary is today! Love you, wifey!

Make Yoda humiliate Luke as often as possible with the phrase, “How embarrassing.”

Yoda : Oh, cannot get your ship out. How embarrassing.

Luke: It’s too big. I can’t do it.

Yoda: How embarrassing.

Luke: Ben, tell him I’m ready [bumps head].

Yoda: How embarrassing.

Luke: Han. Leia! [falls]

Yoda: How embarrassing.

Obi-wan: That boy is our last hope.

Yoda: How embarrassing.

So cool I thought I’d make a double post about it!

Very cool. Best of luck in the job hunt!

Congrats! What was your field of study?

I mean obviously the quality of video is much lower but your incorporation of it into the movie is perfect. It fits very nicely.

The menu looked great too. Looking forward to many more surprises!

I love the Dooku insertion. It looks perfect! I’m so glad you did that!

^…^ said:

Once there is the script, in where there is a call for each scene, I think it could be always possible to do two (or three versions), as I suggested some posts before; one with the best quality clips, and another with (almost all) the others discarded for the former reinserted, including the b&w.

Forgot to mention: if there are alternative take/different angle, with finished effect, that could not affect the overall quality of the final result, would you prefer that it is used instead the shot seen in the movie?

Bewy, thanks for the link; it is really informative.

Menus: I knew they were not deleted scenes, BUT… they always could be used to replace some bad shot in the deleted scene - Wampa comes to mind.
Sadly, the best ones have the written all on them, BUT… I managed to fix it, and result, albeit imperfect, is nice; I used the duel menu to make a simple intro, that I’d like to attach before any film, along with the BD logo carved in the stone with a lightsaber.

Test clip: https://fs09n5.sendspace.com/dl/a90c8c5ac355a850a19b17f652f63d2b/5844103e42bee4af/s5yitj/menu-test-final.ts

If possible, I would prefer an edit with alternate shots/takes when available. You sent me a PM indicating I had a truncated shot. I truthfully may have done that a few times. If you find that is the case, let me know and I’ll try to get you the better versions anything that was not clipped correctly.

I don’t always jump in on these conversations with my time constraints, but I do follow along. Mike, I am so glad the medication is working. Keep at it, my friend.