darth_ender

MrInsaneA said:

And IS Dooku a Sith in this edit? Or just a Rogue Jedi who has no connection to Sidious? Because personally, I always liked the Rogue Jedi idea.

 Same question, same preference.  I like a little grey area in my force users.  Better to have a Sith-manipulated rogue who has tired of the narrow-minded Jedi ways than another obvious bad guy.  I've seen this discussion a lot, and if someone could successfully pull this off, I don't know if any other PT change would please me as much.

Bingowings said:

I'd also downplay saving Padme as motivation for turning against the Jedi.

It would make more sense to have him genuinely believe by the time he sees Mace with his saber at the Chancellor's throat that the secret guilt he feels for killing Dooku and the sandpeople is pointless as Master Windu is about to do the same without guilt or shame.

If the Jedi are no better than Sith he might as well be a respected Sith Lord than a disrespected Jedi.

It should be the moment he stops being the boy Anakin and becomes the decisive man/machine of action Vader.

By the time he comes to believe Padme has betrayed him he no longer cares for her either, his lust for power and revenge has eclipsed his love for her.

 Very much agree, and was thinking about this yesterday.  Anakin tells Mace not to kill him though he did the same thing to Dooku earlier in the film.  If you could pull this emotion off, I think that would be perfect.  How too fill in the gaps between these scenes though...

Watch your language!  Ziggy reads this thread.

Warbler said:

darth_ender said:

I mean, you could find a few things that did not seem to add up, but if 96.5% of it does, that is enough for me.  The biggest thing in question was the limping old man, but there can even be reasonable explanations for the time lapse.  In any case, you are right about the point.  I guess it's just if I wrote the script I would have left slightly more convincing counter evidence...nothing too strong obviously, else the point be lost, but slightly stronger.

I am not sure I understand.  Do you mean you wish there was more evidence that the kid didn't do it? 

 Yes.  A bunch of independent coincidences did not add up to me.  Were they related to each other better, I might have considered it more strongly.  It all seems to be completely unrelated minor coincidences.  A guy in my home town shot two people one night.  The first was intentional and the guy died, the second was not and the guy lived.  He was acquitted of the second because "it's possible," as Henry Fonda would say, that the bullet came from outside.  No one else is known to have discharged a weapon.  No other gun was tied to the bullet.  No other shots were heard.  But the jurty determined that because it was "possible," he need not face punishment for that injury.  Now that infuriates me, because as Puggo pointed out, nothing is known with absolute certainty, but it is still quite likley that he shot that other guy.  I'm guessing that some minor something inconsistency changed their thinking (nothing specific that I read in the paper), and that was enough to change their minds, but come on.  We'll never know all the facts, but we can know enough to connect the dots and tell what the picture is.

TV's Frink said:

 

darth_ender said:

^Wait!  Did you get it?  You left out the best part of the quote!

That's what makes me mad.

 

I belatedly see what you did there :)

Gummi Bears: The Movie--the brilliant idea of turning a classic and nostalgic cartoon of yesteryear into a hip, modern, CGI/live-action PG movie (obliged by one swear word) that bears little resemblance to the original show.

Wow, I know no one who can confuse me quite like Bingowings.

I think the ultimate answer to this thread is that no one knows all the snake scenes and your best bet is to just to watch them all and figure it out yourself.  Sorry we can't be more help.  The later movies will likely end up like silent films with lots of dialogue cards...only, with talking too...if you know what I'm saying.

Warbler said:

darth_ender said:

As for Henry Fonda and A Dozen Grumpy Dudes, I like the film but find the ultimate conclusion faulty.  In spite of several little reasons to doubt, the sum total of so much evidence still weighs too heavily in my mind to believe the kid didn't do it.  It would be an amazing string of coincidences that would allow all those factors to be in place while the kid remains innocent.  Too much speculation.  But nevertheless, Fonda's character stuck to his guns, which if you have honest doubts, that's the thing to do.

I couldn't disagree with you more.   Yeah, sure the kid probably did it.  But that is not the point.   The question is, was there or was there not reasonable doubt.   There are other knives like the one the kid had.   It is doubtful an old man with a limp could have made it to the door to see the kid running down the stairs.   It is doubtful the old man could have heard the body hit the floor or the woman scream with the loud train roaring by.   The woman who witnessed the crime wore glasses(and no one wears glasses to bed) so her eyesight is in question.     With all of that, how could you convict? How could you send the kid off to die?  Do you seriously think there isn't reasonable doubt there?

To me there was a little doubt, but to me, reasonable doubt is not the same as beyond any doubt.  I mean, you could find a few things that did not seem to add up, but if 96.5% of it does, that is enough for me.  The biggest thing in question was the limping old man, but there can even be reasonable explanations for the time lapse.  In any case, you are right about the point.  I guess it's just if I wrote the script I would have left slightly more convincing counter evidence...nothing too strong obviously, else the point be lost, but slightly stronger.  Still, it's all personal preference.  I don't mean to detract from the point of your thread.

What's wrong with a typo now and then?

An imperfect system to be sure, regardless of its merits.  People remain flawed and will let minutia affect their judgment.  Overall, it's always good to stick to your guns, but at the same time, jury deliberation is the time for debate.  I think you did all right, even if imperfectly.  I've never served, but I sympathize, as I've been grateful to dodge that bullet twice in the last four years.

The problem with a full-time jury is that the dynamics are not random.  Statistically speaking, you should get approximately the same sort of judgment from an unbiased fresh set of jurors each time.  But when you get a bunch of folks who get to know each other, shape each others' opinions, and become overly familiar with the system, they produce a stagnant jury that loses the objective nature that juries are supposed to have.

As for Henry Fonda and A Dozen Grumpy Dudes, I like the film but find the ultimate conclusion faulty.  In spite of several little reasons to doubt, the sum total of so much evidence still weighs too heavily in my mind to believe the kid didn't do it.  It would be an amazing string of coincidences that would allow all those factors to be in place while the kid remains innocent.  Too much speculation.  But nevertheless, Fonda's character stuck to his guns, which if you have honest doubts, that's the thing to do.

What do you think it contains, cauliflower*?

^Good point, though I like the change in many ways.  I like how it actually weakened the Empire, and is reminiscent of true dictatorships where authority figures take more and more power and leave less and less in the hands of those more capable.

Perhaps cutting out "Do it!" but leaving in the "Kill him. Kill him now," could lead to more subtle and understandable suggestion as well as leaving Anakin to more to his own evil.  Sort of a compromise, maybe?  I dunno.

I know some viruses also make your hard drive look empty, even when it's not.  Maybe try this, or if doesn't help, google some alternative methods for checking for such malware:

http://www.computing.net/answers/security/cant-see-anything-on-c-drive/35355.html

or

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/270482-32-hard-drive-empty

Seriously, I wouldn't give up after a big fight.  Just make sure any new programs you download/install are on a different drive than the one you are trying to recover.  Don't put anything new on the empty drive.

The Indiana Jones movies tend to have multiple villains, filling different roles.  I would say much of the same applies to Star Wars I think.  I wouldn't say they are necessarily equal in the Imperial hierarchy (much to my chagrin), but they are equal in that they have different but important villainous roles to play: one as the intimidating darkness who engages in actual battle, the other as the smooth-talking, slimy, disengaged sort.

^Wait!  Did you get it?  You left out the best part of the quote!

Wiping Butts: A Nursing Student's Story (Based on actual events!)

Can't watch the video at the moment, but I'll check when I can.  Okay, fine, it's a real stance.  I stand corrected.  It still seems weird to me, but I did admit I'm no fencing pro.  It was just an observation, and apparently a pretty ignorant one.  Apparently I'm good at making myself look dumb too.

Wow, this sounds really cool.  I'm looking forward to it.  I hpe you continue to make swift progress. :)

Not true!  I actually put the binary and hexadecimal codes in a translator online, and some people had something to say!  My Morse and ASCII are real too!  But I finally read through the page last Friday and realized just how silly this thread is.  MOST of them are fake ;)

I actually like the Sith from the movies better than the EU.  To me they are overly powerful and the Jedi awfully stupid during the Sith War stuff.  I like the Rule of Two (and I'm not fond of all the Sith acolyte stuff in the Clone Wars).  I like their subversive nature rather than another large group.  I like that their evil is subtle and infiltrating instead of a big group that everyone knows is evil.  Just my two cents.

Somewhat reconsidering what I said about the Chosen One...it could be made to better appeal to me in the OT if done right, and maybe I'd be happier with it overall.  I confess, the main thing I don't like about it is its lack of reference in the OT, but if it were included more, it might be better in my mind as another way of looking at Star Wars.  I really do like having several interpretations of Star Wars, not simply an "only way to watch it."

Care to expound on how you will achieved this edit?  I'm interested in particular with the OT segments which will obviously fewer opportunities to focus on him in particular.  For instance, how do you plan to maintain the narrative in ANH for the first bit without focusing on R2/3PO?  It sounds very interesting and I hopefully can at least provide a little input on the way.  Good luck, and I look forward to seeing your progress.

Where are your priorities?  You think that a good work environment is more important than spending time with a bunch of folks you've never met?  Pfft!

Oops.  What's funny is I actually was referring to the Sith, not the Chosen One :D  I don't much care for that, but I forgot to say the word Sith.  Sorry, now I didn't mean to make you look dumb or anything.

Real and fake codes, but you know, if you have to ask...Oh yeah, I'm not cool either.

He never even got my joke in the Misbegotten Movies thread and he's been on here less and less anyway.  I guess we'll all go through Frink detox.

Definitely agree with the Chosen One thing as it's completely unimportant.  However, as I like the basic idea and I started the integration thread, I actually would prefer somehow including its brief mention in the OT.