I wanted to say everything Jaitea said. The Sith were still an important part of the story, and even the ANH novelization termed him as such (though it also implied he was one of many). I think it's an interesting plot point and I have no problem with its use, though I do hope they will try some other angles in the new films as well.
They're very similar. In my opinion, neither is absolutely complete without the other. They both have a few things the other does not. I'd get them both.
Yeah, he's written me too. He did indeed come off pretty aggressively towards me and a few others. I asked Sam on YouTube, but he denies it. Oh well. Either way, he's gone.
Not appropriate!? What a bunch of stuffed shirts!
I'm only kidding, but that place really is far too serious for me to ever become more than a moocher there.
Well, you guys haven't done a whole lot to raise my hopes ;) but I hope one day someone will relent and let us see that additional footage. Star Wars is a movie with so much history, and I think it's a shame to keep some of that history locked in a vault, rotting away.
It's very odd when you read the silliest guy on this board acting like a serious and mature mod on a different board.
Well, I know you've got a life, but from what I've seen in the few YouTube videos that remain up, you've got a very interesting and different approach than Adywan. I know everyone talks about his being the gold standard, and it really is wonderful, but I also love to see others' work. For me, there is no definitive version, and your previous work already looked fantastic. I hope you get the chance to again show your work :)
Thanks, Warb :)
Sad to say, but my wife's grandmother passed away. Obviously no one here knows her, but I was closer to her than any of my own grandmothers. Of course it makes me sad, but now she's at peace. She was a good woman who lived to be 96. My wife is pretty sad, but she too feels content with her passing. Vaya con Dios, Abuelita.
Thanks for the tip. I'll make the request properly and see if something comes up. Man, those FE.org folks are very strict. And those crazy mods never give you a break. What a bunch of weirdos! ;)
Britain's Iron Lady Margaret Thatcher
http://news.yahoo.com/britains-iron-lady-margaret-thatcher-dies-spokesman-120047403.html
Son, I'm sorry. They got us :(
TV's Frink said:
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Can you post a link?
http://www.fanedit.org/forums/showthread.php?2267-THE-DARK-KNIGHT-Remixed-by-Jorge&p=155155#post155155
I'm wondering if my error was not that I made a request, but that I did it in that thread. But since I assumed right away that I wasn't supposed to make any requests at all like that, I didn't press any further. I don't really go there much so I'm not so familiar with the rules and etiquette.
@Darth Editous, :( Thanks for letting me know. I'm guessing you won't be finishing V4 then?
Is there anyone who has a copy of this and is willing to upload it? I'd also be pleased with the Darth Editous/ADigitalMan hybrid, though it would be nice to have both. I'd love a PM.
Last time I asked for something like that on FE.org I get busted :(
Just think how much money you spend maintaining your car vs. your own grocery bills, utilities, housing, and anything else. And in the Star Wars galaxy, think how much they've improved their machines, making them far more energy efficient. I'm sure they require upkeep, but I find it hard to believe they need as much as an actual human.
And I am glad for the inclusion of clones; I really wanted to see the clones too. I would have just done it differently.
You'd think so, but somebody wrote an article in Star Wars Insider #41 that was published in December '97/January '98 where he reports having watched it. It happens to be one of the two issues I ever purchased, and it is very interesting to hear how the rough cut of Star Wars was developing. But my point is that it actually wasn't discarded, but rather preserved in black and white.
I have to say that, as a moderate fan of the PT, I wish that the whole concept of the clones had played out differently. Now you may know I am a fan of TCW and see it as the redemption of the PT, but I can't help but feel like this should have been handled differently.
First, I would never have made droids such effective fighters. Why would any army utilize organic soldiers when droids would be cheaper and ultimately more powerful? A droid requires no eating, no sleeping, only recharging (which is cheap). A droid could be programmed in a very short time and then would be ready for battle. A droid could be outfitted with multiple appendages, could be programmed with superior reflexes, dexterity, strength, and precision in attack and firing (not demonstrated on screen, but if taken to a logical conclusion), and could receive regular software and hardware upgrades. A droid could continue fighting in spite of injury, would not experience fear, could communicate internally with numerous other units simultaneously to coordinate efforts, and could be provided with additional sensory equipment.
Meanwhile, clones take feeding, training (even with some imprinted instincts or whatever, the human brain still requires adjustment to unfamiliar physical maneuvers), entertainment, sleep. All clones are physically the same, and cannot be largely improved (i.e. no extra arms). The human brain, for all its creativity, is very limited by fear, imperfect calculation, normal human senses, etc. The technology to create them is newer and definitely costlier to create them. Clones are weaker and more expensive!
I understand the theory that sentient beings are more clever and innovative, thus offering an advantage, but I can hardly believe that such would offset the disadvantages. George Lucas would have done better to make sentient beings the primary fighting force as they are in the OT. Viewers would continue to assume that the technology to make an effective automaton army was simply not existent, as they always had.
Second, clones raise big moral issues. Bingowings has argued very interestingly about the morals of subjugating sentient artificial intelligences. But while the morality of that remains debatable, I find no gray area on creating new life forms for the sole purpose of sending them to fight and die against a military comprised entirely of robots. They get no opportunity to choose their path, have no hope for a better future. They are literal slaves to the "noble" Republic. Who raises this issue during the films? No one. The wonderful and good Jedi do not hesitate to immediately make use of them, and the people of the Republic approve of their purpose. Obi-wan never seems to feel bad about it (though in the novel he seems horrified when he first hears about them...for a few moments). Yoda himself brings them to Geonosis. And the Republic never attempts to create an army of machines to counter: rather they continue to waste life and money while simply draining the Separatists' population remains largely uninvolved.
I would never have involved robot armies. I wouldn't mind seeing a few AI assassins or special units, but never entire armies. I would rather have seen clones being used by the bad guys, or perhaps clones being used on both sides with an acknowledgement that such abuse was a portion of the atrocities committed on both sides of the war(s). Its lasting moral implications still would permeate to the time of ANH, obviously. I would have also included normal divisions so that the general population would feel the effects of the war, seeing their loved ones go off to die. Instead, the war must have been very depersonalized for most people on both sides, as nobody they cared about ever went off to fight except a few in leadership positions. And since they were called the Clone Wars (plural), it might have been nice to see ongoing fighting interrupted by brief intermissions of peace. To me, the Clone Wars would have been much more interesting, realistic, and less morally ambiguous if shown like this.
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TV's Frink said:
valinkrai said:
Hey, I'm normally not one to be interested in the original cuts of Star Wars, being perfectly okay with the Blu-rays
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Oh, great! Another self-absorbed Frink post. I read no further than this. ;)
I don't mind whatever quirks it has to it. I'm interested in seeing a rough cut. I love every second of additional footage, alternate takes, and all that stuff. I'm not looking to justify fictional memories; I just want to see something new.
retartedted said:
darth_ender said:
Which episode? What kind of error? Considering you released all the episodes as individual mp4s it seems you could just upload the corrected episode. :)
I'll refrain from pointing it out, as to not ruin it for everyone else. Once you notice those things one tends to fixate on it. :)
And I don't think that I will do one upload for just one tiny error. I'll watch through them a couple of more times and make a list. And I am sure over time people will come forward with a few things here and there as they get through the series as well.
Ah, I was thinking this was some massive problem. I will probably hardly notice it.
So to be clear for the slower readers (me, myself, and I), each episode is complete, unlike the DVD releases? I know you had sources you didn't prefer as much, but these episodes lack nothing, correct? If so, this is really amazing as even Coby looks great considering its source!
TV's Frink, since you've generously been uploading stuff to fanedit.info, I was wondering if you might be willing to put V3 on your upload list? Purty please :)
With Disney owning LFL would it be more possible to get a release of the Lost Cut? I'd sure love to see it.
I was reading about the Lost Cut today and I was thinking about my project. I don't have the time or talent, but I believe the many pictures I will be including could be pieced together with the available deleted scenes to sort of recreate the Lost Cut. Obviously it's not perfect, but it would be quite interesting in my mind.