darth_ender

AntcuFaalb said:

darth_ender said:

Sounds like a naive view to a complex story and character from a book that has been praised and received two prestigious sci-fi awards.  Quite honestly, I find the political views of many of my favorite series' authors (i.e. George Lucas) quite objectionable, but that doesn't mean I will boycott their products, call them names, or assume the worst in his motives.  I admire many people for what they do that is good, even though they, like all of us, are prone to the human foible of bigotry.  Yes, each of us is prone to it in one form or another, and OSC's views are not motivated by hatred towards homosexuals, but by ignorance.

lol, I neglected to put what I said in quotes. Those aren't my words and I don't believe them. I just thought that the following Kuro5hin article was well-known enough to mention in passing without having to cite it: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/5/28/22428/7034

Ah, pardon my ignorance.  We recently had a discussion where I had rushed to Card's defense.  One might easily surmise that I am interested in his writings, so forgive my zealotry.

I figured that, in order to avoid clutter in other threads, imperialscum can share just about anything he doesn't like in a single thread.  That way, if one ever wonders how he feels about, say, shrimp cocktails, they only need to look through the pages of this thread rather than searching the whole forum.  I might even index all subsequent posts in this first post.  See what a nice guy I am? ;)

imperialscum hates:
onions 
Klingons  (I'm actually in agreement on this one)

Sounds like a naive view to a complex story and character from a book that has been praised and received two prestigious sci-fi awards.  Quite honestly, I find the political views of many of my favorite series' authors (i.e. George Lucas) quite objectionable, but that doesn't mean I will boycott their products, call them names, or assume the worst in his motives.  I admire many people for what they do that is good, even though they, like all of us, are prone to the human foible of bigotry.  Yes, each of us is prone to it in one form or another, and OSC's views are not motivated by hatred towards homosexuals, but by ignorance.

Jaitea said:

Give DominicCobb a break all he was saying was that Star Wars looks more promising now than what it did before Lucas retired.

Lucasfilm is looking up

J

I think imperialscum sometimes just looks for opportunities to be contrary.  If I said the sky was blue, I think he'd criticize me for not calling it azure ;)  He's kind of like twooffour, though not as aggressive and not nearly as wordy.

muddyknees2000 said:

.Mac. said:

Just found out about that EditDroid 1984 Demo laserdisc from the Revisited Facebook page. What's the latest news on this, did Ady get it?

Quoted from FB:

An update on the rare ROTJ laserdisc:

Ok guys, thanks for all your offers of donations towards getting this. We CAN get it now but we do need your help in getting it. Someone has stepped in and purchased it but we have to reimburse him for the cost. This has helped us on many fronts: Not only did it guarantee that some collector won't come along and snap it up and we would most probably NEVER get to see the unseen footage on this disc but also we only have to cover the cost of the purchase and i'm not going to get hit with all the import fees (which would have been around $200). Once i can get my hands on this disc then i can get it transferred to digital format for all of us to enjoy :)

But this isn't just about the laserdisc. The Han in Carbonite parts i paid for, but haven't received, has also caused a financial problem. I had been funding the remaining part of revisited personally through the credit card. Well the HiC parts were purchased through Paypal on this card. Today i received a letter from Vanquis ( the card company) saying they have blocked the card because we didn't agree to the hike in interest charges they were going to apply to our balance and future purchases. So this has now caused major problems. When paypal refunds me the money it will go directly back on the card, so that means no more cash left. 

So this latest donation drive is not just for the laserdisc but also to help get the last section of ESB:R completed. 

We haven't got very long to try and raise the funds to get our hands on this disc so please, we are grateful for any help you can give.

Donations, as usual, will be through paypal just by clicking on the paypal button on the right hand side of this page:

http://swrevisited.wordpress.com/

Oh, this is such awesome news!  I should be starting my new job soon, so when I actually get a little income, I can help.

Oh, I guess I didn't understand.  That is disappointing indeed.  I guess the best I'll get for now is the YouTube video and the Treadwell Collection bootleg.  I can live with that for now, but hopefully the better version eventually comes to be.  Can't help but wonder why GL never inserted this IMAX version into his special editions, considering all the other changes he willingly has made.  That's some pretty cool work!

Well, that makes no sense to me, but it sounds like good news anyway!  Any hints on who grabbed it?  Any chance that someone who is still faithfully plugging away at a deleted scene project could get a copy of such a preservation?

So I finally managed to snatch the Treadwell Collection portion with the Special Effects: Anything Can Happen Star Wars segments.  Sadly, it's a very low quality bootleg of an actual IMAX theater showing.  I'd rather watch it on VHS, so truthfully I'm a little disappointed.  No disrespect to none for his preservation work, but it is far too low quality to really appreciate.  I think the only way we're going to see a decent version of the new opening is if someone purchases the VHS on Amazon (for $75) and captures it that way.  Kind of an expensive purchase for a few seconds of footage :(

Very cool.  It looks good, and you got those pictures in high quality.  Well done, sir!

LOL, that actually is pretty funny.  I do find it a little ironic, Bingo, that you find Card so objectionable, yet recently read Dune with the very negative and controversial portrayal of Baron Harkonnen.  I don't want to spur more argument, but it is strange to me.

KilroyMcFadden said:

Does this board already have a ridiculous TFN threads thread? 

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Jedi-Council-Forum-Laughs/topic/15057/

That's true, I hadn't considered the sanitizing edits for TV.  These should certainly be preserved as well.  Captain Khajiit at FE.org says that he has the skills to preserve it, but like most of us, he lacks the time.  He would prefer to use better source material than the LD for most parts, and I can see why.  It'd be like a Despecialized-style preservation.  I myself would probably prefer to use the lower quality of the LD.  I feel fades, trims, and even the "Edited for Television" should all be preserved.  I don't know about the network announcer.  Perhaps he should but I don't know that it's necessary.  Probably if it included commercials, I'd say yes, but since we don't have the commercials, I don't think it's needed.  Just my two cents.

Thanks guys.  I'm glad to know I'm not missing anything :)

Is the only thing that makes these different from modern releases the fact that there are Shatner/Nimoy chats in the beginning?  I know that some material cut from the original broadcast was restored for these, but is this same material restored for the DVD/BDs, or does it actually include material never released on DVD/BD?

I have here some screencaps between the two versions I now have obtained.  Obviously I was not terribly concerned about getting the exact frame.  As you can see, SilverWook's is clearer, though there is a slightly noticeable vertical bar present in the near-middle of the frame most of the movie.  Also there are a few seconds missing at times when resuming recording after a commercial break.  I have not watched the more common version yet, but it's obviously much fuzzier and has seriously blended frames.  I'm not yet aware if there are commercials or cut off seconds after breaks.  My preference between the two goes for SilverWook's.  If one were to preserve this, his would be the version I'd go for.

SilverWook

Common

SilverWook

Common

SilverWook

Common

I think so.  At least portions of it, if you check out the links bttfbrasilfan posted.

Very interesting.  TWC301, none's preservation with this particular IMAX portion is on MySpleen.  Sadly there are currently no seeders.  Hopefully my request will spur someone to reseed.

Happy to help.  SilverWook is the one who really deserves the credit.  He made a very nice preservation.

I've got someone else's copy of the ABC cut up at MySpleen now, if anyone is interested in comparing.

I actually was fortunate enough, thanks to Captain Khajiit of FE.org, to get another, different version of the ABC cut.  I have now put that up on MySpleen as well.  With all the sources I've provided, I believe anyone who desires (hint hint) could create a very nice preservation.

JEDIT: FYI Captain Khajiit has also made these available on tehparadox as well, if anyone prefers that method.

Yes, he recorded it off TV onto VHS.  I'm not sure what you mean by what form.  He later converted his recording to DVD.  It's surprisingly high quality, but I'm not sure I can give you better information.

@White Bear, I'll see if I can help you.

Wow, that's awesome!  I would really love that.  A request on MySpleen or tehparadox might turn something up.  If something turns up, please let me know!

Judging by your record so far and just how amazing your work is, I have no doubt it will be amazing!  I look forward to the day when it is done. :)

This project is currently nothing more than theory.  Emanswfan has plans to restart it when he is done working on the prequels, and I believe he set a tentative date of 2015.  So no movie, and therefore no DVD covers.  But stick around for a couple of years and you may see something :)

Lots of cool things to grab besides TWOK.  I included pictures, deleted scenes, and the older and remastered versions of Space Seed.  After a slow upload, people completely snatched it overnight.  Get it while it's hot!