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Cuz it is such cooool news!

Bingowings said:

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Oh drat!  I just read this and was about to start it in its own thread, but wanted to see if someone had beat me to it in this thread.  I should have known it'd be you!

In any case, this is really awesome news!

SilverWook sent me the hard copy of the ABC cut of TWOK.  I have it seeding at MySpleen.  Read more about it here.  Thanks again, Wook :)

Happy to help.  Please forgive if it takes a while to get it all uploaded.  I can't leave the computer on all the time right now.

JEDIT: I want to remind everyone that SilverWook deserves the credit for recording and digitizing this.  All thanks should go to him, really.

Assuming I did it right, it should be up at the Spleen right now!

The Wrath of Khan has to be my favorite Trek movie.  I know, it’s nearly everyone’s favorite Trek movie, but for me, this realization is pretty recent.  The only Trek movie I saw in theaters was The Undiscovered Country, and it swiftly became my favorite.  My young mind had a hard time enjoying TWOK quite as much.  After all, look at those haircuts!  Well, adulthood has led to a maturing of opinion, and I definitely enjoy TWOK far more.  There are two commercial releases out there: the theatrical cut and the director’s cut.  But relatively few are aware of the ABC cut, shown a few times in the early 80s.  The director’s cut is very similar, but there are minute differences.

According to the extremely knowledgeable Grant at trekbbs (and I say that with absolute sincerity, he really knows an awful lot about Star Trek minutia), there are only three differences between the director’s cut and the ABC cut: widescreen vs. P&S, an additional computer line during the Kobayashi Maru scenario, and most significantly, this alternate version of the turbolift scene between Kirk and Saavik.

Silverwook has kindly provided me with a TV recording of the ABC cut, missing only a few seconds at the beginnings of scenes resuming after commercial breaks.  None of these slight gaps affects any of the alternate scenes.  He has also provided me with the LD version of TWOK, which is the theatrical version in P&S.  He suggested that someone make a preservation, something which I could probably not do any time in the near future, as I lack software, hardware, and greenbacks.  However, I am planning on putting this up on MySpleen, and I think it would be awesome if someone used both sources to preserve the ABC cut, splicing the VHS recording in with the LD footage.  I had a lead on another version of the ABC cut, which to my understanding was actually originally made from a spliced VHS (original theatrical with ABC recording put in where appropriate).  I have yet to obtain this, and I can’t help but wonder if there are inaccuracies, but if I get my hands on it, I could put that up as well, so that all the best versions could be put together.  Is anyone up to the challenge?

TV's Frink said:

cain spaans said:

ray_afraid said:

Davnes007 said:

cain spaans said:

TV's Frink said:

Davnes007 said:

cain spaans said:

I saw Cowboys VS Aliens and I felt emotional impact when Daniel Craig,s character in the movie was so upset that that alien chick died at the end and Harrison Ford was like " It's okay she is in a better place now"

Hey look.....your 'comma' key works. Too bad you used it in the wrong place.

Sorry to break this to you, but Daniel Craig is the s character in the movie.

I was saying his character.

Ultimately, you're missing the point (and humor) of the whole thing.

Cain, they are making fun of you and your autistic traits. It's hilarious, isn't it?

No it isn't. I find that very insulting. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.  

cain, There's no need to feel insulted.

I was poking a little light fun at Davnes, it was not directed at you.  I am well aware of your autism, as discussed (I think) in both your documentary thread and in at least one of the preservation threads.  I mentioned at one point, having learned of your situation, that I was done messing with you.

On fanedit.org, where I am a moderator, we had a similar situation recently where an autistic member was receiving some teasing, and I specifically asked people to stop.

In fact, I have a young daughter with Asperger's.  It would be extremely hypocritical of me to mock you...I worry about people doing that to her all the time.

As for Davnes, I seriously doubt he knew you had autism.  There are a lot of reasons for poor spelling, grammar, punctuation, and so on.  Some people have autism.  Some do not speak English as a first language.  And some are too lazy to write well.  We (well, me at least, but I think Davnes as well) typically only mock those in the last category (and their similar elk (yes, I know)).

Anyway, no insult intended, so apologies if that's the impression you got.

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ray, I'm sorry you think so little of me. :-/

Yikes!  I had not realized the situation at all, and somehow missed that part of the conversation.  I have teased as well, but I apologize.  I shall not tease you anymore.

Anyone planning on purchasing them?  I sure do, but until I actually am gainfully employed, I cannot.  I thought nurses could get hired anywhere, but apparently not in my town :(

Ever wondered what Kirk's pain was and why he refused to share it with Sybock?

Me neither.

But I suddenly developed a theory: In TVH, Kirk travels to the late 1980s, a time shortly before the Eugenics War and Khan's rise to power.  If Kirk had intervened with Khan's power grab, he never would have encountered him in the 23rd century, never would have had the chaos with the Genesis device and the creation of the Genesis planet in the Mutara sector.  His son would not have become entangled with hostile Klingons and would not have been killed.  You see, the premature death of the tyrant Khan would have ultimately saved his son!  But Kirk realizes that his pain is what makes him what he is.  So it's okay that he forgot to kill Khan while picking up some whales.

No problem.  If I find anything else, I'll let you know.  Good luck in your quest.

Double post

I had resisted the popularity of the books for many years, not wanting to follow the trend.  But now that things have died down a bit, I thought I'd give it a go, and I find the books very entertaining.  I just started the fourth yesterday, and made it through the World Cup match between Ireland and Bulgaria.  So far the problems of this game have not been any more apparent than in this match.  Ireland won the match by gaining a 160 point lead, though the Bulgarian seeker ultimately caught the Snitch.  Harry seemed to understand his reasoning...Krum, the seeker, recognized that his team was too far behind to catch up, so he simply caught the Snitch to end the game "on his own terms."  Of course, if he'd been patient and perhaps allowed his team to score once more, he could have made the game a tie, or hoped for two scores, and he could have turned such a gap into victory.  Of course, such a strategy would reinforce my problems with the game, that it's not a very fair way to score a game.  It would have taken little for Rowling to fix the rules, but she didn't seem to think them through.

TV's Frink said:

Stuck on ten.

:(

Yeah, I admit I was just trying to boost your self-esteem.

I found a pdf version of the book you are looking for in English, and it has the cropping you desire.  If you simply take a good snapshot of the pictures in question, you can get a pretty high resolution picture for your preservation.

http://thestarwarstrilogy.com/starwars/magazines/star-wars-1979-read-along/med/Star%20Wars%20(1979%20Read-Along).pdf

Hope it helps :)

I notice that a certain young man has inserted a very naughty word into his title.  He clearly has a potty mouth.  I'm going to take the plunge and let you know I believe you could use a scrub.

Bingowings said:

When Han gets on his Tauntaun it makes a Yoshi noise.

Thumbs up!

Darth Stewie said:

Bingowings said:

Ady... I really dig your flaps.

Stop hitting on Ady. He's a married man ;-)

It's true, that does sound like a little innuendo, coming from a man named Bingowings.

I just briefly looked at it, but this thread and the people at this site would probably be very helpful.

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=104178

Daneditor is the same guy as yads, the guy who edited the Lone Gungan Edition.  You can always send him a PM here and I know he'd be happy to provide you with an AVI.

This is good.  This is what the PT could have been.  I'll definitely keep an eye on this thread :)

*eats a taco and vomits*

Mrebo said:

I don't think we (the common people) are supposed to understand this, but I would like to believe it's mind-blowingly fascinating.

What stands out to me is the quote, "You can easily do, on paper, computations that were infeasible even with a computer before."

And, "The new geometric version of quantum field theory could also facilitate the search for a theory of quantum gravity that would seamlessly connect the large- and small-scale pictures of the universe."

The idea that a practically impossible problem might suddenly by solved by looking at it in a different way, perhaps using a relatively simple tool, does have broader applicability.

I neither fully understand relativity or quantum theory, but the two are so disjointed that scientists have been grasping for years to try to find a theory (always very complex) that would actually tie them together.  This sounds like the beginning of finding such a theory, and much simpler and complete.

Tangentially-related is this take on addressing the often recognized mental health issues behind mass shootings that have occurred. That's a problem that I think most shrug their shoulders at, not knowing exactly how we can address it. And there are civil liberty concerns for drugging/institutionalizing people for mental health issues. Charles Krauthammer poses a good question in response:

I know the civil libertarian arguments. I know that involuntary commitment is outright paternalism. But paternalism is essential for children because they don’t have a fully developed rational will. Do you think Alexis was in command of his will that night in Newport?

Any thoughts, ender?

My thoughts are thus: that the compassionate de-institutionalization of the mentally ill has been poorly handled.  This supposedly compassionate move has instead been a shift, as now the jail system serves essentially the same function, as the mentally ill often end up in jail where they receive all the same treatment they were getting before.  I have worked with people who were forcibly placed in medical care for a time, and though I understand that it seems unjust to take another's free will, there really are times where the safety of the person and the public are of greater concern than personal liberty.  The person's own debilitating symptoms are a prison, and medical treatment is a release.  It must be used with care or it can be abused, but it is a necessary evil that we must not be afraid to use.

Bingowings said:

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Very fascinating!

Jambe Davdar put an awful life of time and research into his project.  He asked around and found a lot of stuff.  I don't know of a specific place where you can find the sources of the Jabba scene, but the first post of his Star Wars Begins thread gives insight to all his sources:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Begins-Youtube-PAL-NTSC-Versions-Released/topic/7307/

You can write him a personal message asking him, and he might be able to give you more information.  That's about the best most of us can offer.

Since I haven't actually updated this thread in a while, I'll let those who are interested know that some real progress has been coming along.  After organizing my thousands of pictures into smaller folders related to different parts of the films, and then working on smaller slideshows, I've been moving at a much more reasonable pace.  It's still surprisingly time consuming, as I have numerous versions of almost every picture I have, and after putting them in proper order, I have to determine which version(s) I wish to keep, often based on cropping so I can see the most picture, but also trying to include the highest rez versions.  On top of that, some of the pictures need some serious editing to improve the color or straighten them out.  But overall I'm pleased and don't feel so discouraged at my progress.  I must give a big thank you to benduwan who has always been so willing to help, and in this case helped organize the ESB pics so I can more easily put them in their slideshows.  I've also got help from someone at trekbbs for ROTJ, so this project may actually get done this year!