darklordoftech

I hate how the EU uses "prequel logic" to get away with nearly anything.

To each their own. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Maybe he plays the armour of Darth Vader, possessed by the spirit of a long-dead Dark Lord who was imprisoned within the armour when it was built and reawakened when Luke cremated Vader on Endor.

TFN would love that.

NeverarGreat said:

There are some good scans by Team -1...

Where can I find these scans?

Considering how dull the GOUT ROTJ looks, I wonder what ROTJ originally looked like.

Maxo said:

Are some fighters who are faster than others, like Darth Maul, just faster or better at using Force Speed?

I guess so.

Hal, why did you remove Sidious from the movie?

If Chewie's dead in VII, I will walk out of the theater in anger.

SilverWook said:

Vector Prime got a lot of publicity when it was published in 1999. IIRC, it was the only EU novel to have a tv spot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOV2dGdFbGk

I know Chewie's death in the book got some media attention. Not to mention the author reportedly got threatening letters from fans.

Whether casual fans and moviegoers even remember this 15 years later is unclear.

And even if they do remember, will they care?

How would you all feel about the Disney sale and the ST if there was no EU, SE, or PT?

Fang Zei said:

Minor inconsistincies can be explained/retconned away by Chee and Hidalgo, outright contradictions like Chewie being alive in an Episode VII set 40 years after RotJ cannot.

The Chewie in Vector Prime is a clone ;)

DuracellEnergizer said:

NeverarGreat said:

darklordoftech said:

TV's Frink said:

Why are you bringing up either Nolan or Earth, neither of which have anything to do with Star Wars?

I was trying to say that a Star Wars movie that takes place in the same universe as te EU (what some are advocating) would be like a Batman movie that takes place in the same universe as the Batman comics.

The comics and the movie are two different takes on the character. Different universes. The EU means Expanded Universe, not Different Universe. This is why Lucas specifically forbid writers from delving into the Clone Wars period and tried to make the prequels fit with the EU instead of disregarding it completely. However, since he doesn't have a good grasp of continuity as it is, the effort was rather wasted.

Taking bits and pieces of the EU that he likes and sticking them in the PT =/= trying to make the PT fit with the EU.

Correct. To claim that the prequels were EU friendly is pure revisionism. When TPM was released, fans complained about the absence of Palpatine's three-eyed wife and there being two, not one Dark Lord of the Sith at a time. They also complained about the TPM novelization's Sith history being inconsistent with Tales of the Jedi.

Furthermore, why should Disney continue doing things the way Lucas did them? 

Legacy of The Force. If New Jedi Order is the OOT, LOTF is the SE and PT. Vergere and Jacen are completely different characters in LOTF.

Mavericks said: the very word combination "Dark Jedi" is similar to "round square": how is that a Jedi could be "Dark".

I think Zahn was using "Jedi" to mean, "someone who can use The Force". He even called the twin babies "Jedi twins".

I'm with you. I've always wanted to see more of the Valorum era.

TV's Frink said:

Why are you bringing up either Nolan or Earth, neither of which have anything to do with Star Wars?

I was trying to say that a Star Wars movie that takes place in the same universe as te EU (what some are advocating) would be like a Batman movie that takes place in the same universe as the Batman comics.

TV's Frink said:

With new what now?

"New Earth" is the universe in which most DC Comics occur.

Let me ask this: What if Nolan decided to maintain consistency with New Earth?

SilverWook said:

Can't the EU continue on it's merry way while the new films come out?

AFAIK, this isn't even an issue with Trek fans, and that particular EU has been around a lot longer.

You have no idea how long I've been trying to say this. 

DuracellEnergizer said:

Fang Zei said:

An EU reboot would also be a huge slap in the face to all the fans who've made the company millions of dollars by continuing to buy the books. It could result in the exact kind of backlash Lucasfilm is trying to avoid.

Boo hoo. Anal-retentive idiots like that deserve to be slapped in the face.

I agree, Duracell. Fan service should never be at the expense of a good movie and/or a good saga.

How Force-users are responsible for every little thing about the galaxy. Black holes? Force-users created them. The biome of every single planet? The work of Force-users.

Reusing concepts that were dropped for a reason. For example, Lucas dropped the concept of midichlorians at some point during the making of the OOT and than brought the concept back for the PT.

Tobar said:

It's only ever been vague to us. As to the scope, they are called the "wars" so I hardly think the word "incident" is fitting. As to what side or in what capacity the clones were involved was never implied. Though I agree the reveal that they were cloned slaves used by the Republic was more than a bit of a let down.

What I meant by "incident" is that it wasn't important to the saga (or to the EU for that matter). And you're correct that, EU aside, nothing was implied about which side or in what capacity the clones were involved, but many assumed that the clones and the Republic were on opposite sides.

ATMachine said: That's exactly what GL originally thought of it as

Where did you read/hear this?

RicOlie_2 said:

That's probably where the rumour originated. Vader is likely planned as a part of one of the stand-alone films and the rumour was built up over time into this one.

Exactly. Somebody heard "episode 7 upcoming" and "Vader in upcoming movie" and put the two together.

More likely Darth Vader will appear in movies that take place in between ROTS and ANH.