darklordoftech

The KOTOR is better than the movies movement. Nothing is better than the OOT.

Someone actually said that continuity with the prequels is more important than continuity with the OT because the prequels were made more recently. 

They better not contradict Yoda telling Luke that, "When gone am I, the last of the Jedi will you be." This means that Kanan and Ezra have to die before ROTJ.

darklordoftech said:

DuracellEnergizer said: Of course, there's too great a chance that they'd just become ersatz Sith if they were ever adopted into the films. 

If you ask me, it's the Sith who deserve the "ersatz" label. Vader and Palpatine will always be Imperials to me, not Sith.

Furthermore, I fear that any Sith master that appears in episodes 7-9 would be an ersatz Emperor and any Sith apprentice would be an ersatz Vader. 

Give me The Emperor or don't give me Sith at all.

DuracellEnergizer said: Of course, there's too great a chance that they'd just become ersatz Sith if they were ever adopted into the films. 

If you ask me, it's the Sith who deserve the "ersatz" label. Vader and Palpatine will always be Imperials to me, not Sith.

CO said:

darklordoftech said:

WedgeCyan said:

CO said:

Darth Vader Ghost or The Emperor ghost.  I love these 2 bad guys, but lets have a an original bad guy (they can still be a Sith). 

 I'd like to take this one step further and say I don't want to see the Emperor at all (no clone/resurrection Legends BS) or Darth Vader at all (as the newest rumors claim).

I'd like to take this yet another step further and say that I don't want to see Sith at all. How is another Sith "new"?

 If they could come up with an original villain, I would be all for it.  But the problem is you need someone who is as powerful as a Jedi, so you are essentially locked into that battle for this galaxy?

Couldn't someone else become just as powerful as a Sith could? Couldn't there be other powerful people and beings out there?

WedgeCyan said:

^Truer than true. I should've noted that I hate the idea of jedi vs sith as an eternal struggle. The "sith order" should never have been a thing.

The idea of an eternal jedi vs sith struggle would be enough to get me to walk out of the theater and cease to be a Star Wars fan. I preferred when Vader and Emperor were evil because they do evil things rather than because they're part of an ancient organization.

TMBTM said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Again, I have no preference, but I'd love to see them blatantly contradict the prequels in the ST.

I don't want the ST to contradict the PT as much as I don't like the PT contradicting some elements of the OT. Adding even more contradiction in the Star Wars world is NOT a good idea. At all.

I agree. 

WedgeCyan said:

CO said:

Darth Vader Ghost or The Emperor ghost.  I love these 2 bad guys, but lets have a an original bad guy (they can still be a Sith). 

 I'd like to take this one step further and say I don't want to see the Emperor at all (no clone/resurrection Legends BS) or Darth Vader at all (as the newest rumors claim).

I'd like to take this yet another step further and say that I don't want to see Sith at all. How is another Sith "new"?

Speaking of lightsaber duels, the OT built up to its duels and established connections between the duelists. In the prequels, disconnected characters duel just because they're on opposite sides of a war and/or are Jedi and Sith.

JediZombie said:

I don't want the original cast to have stupid deaths just so the next gen can step into the spotlight. If/when they die I want their deaths to have more meaning than that.

Thank you! This is why I defend Luke so much.

Bingowings said:

darklordoftech said:

Bingowings said:

What can this thread achieve which this thread couldn't?

Once again I suggest a thread merge.

That thread is exclusively about what the prequels did wrong. This thread is about anything that episode 7 shouldn't do.

 and

What Can Be Avoided

Meaning things that the prequels did that can be avoided.

You guys are impossible to please. If I post in an existing thread, I get trolled for going off-topic; if I create a new thread, I get trolled for creating a redundant thread.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Brown desert hermit Jedi robes.

This bears repeating. It makes no sense for Jedi to dress like Tatooinians and those robes are ugly.

I'm happy beyond words about the legends announcement. The EU is the worst thing to ever happen to Star Wars! May the EU burn in the deepest depths of hell!

unamochilla2 said:

Are the Sith the same as Dark Jedi?

A Sith is a member of the Sith Order.

moviefreakedmind said: so many people seem to think that Star Wars is about Sith vs. Jedi.

Wishful thinking from KOTOR fanboys. The word "Sith" only appears in one of the six opening crawls and most people outside the internet and fandom don't have a clue what "Sith" means.

Bingowings said:

What can this thread achieve which this thread couldn't?

Once again I suggest a thread merge.

That thread is exclusively about what the prequels did wrong. This thread is about anything that episode 7 shouldn't do.

moviefreakedmind said:

I don't want to see pointless lightsaber fights that have no consequence to the overall plot of the movie (like in Attack of the Clones specifically, but pretty much all 3 prequels). I don't want all bad guys to be names "Darth", and I don't want all bad guys to have red lightsabers. Also wonder if the villains will be Sith, supposedly Disney believes that all 6 movies are the, "immovable pillars of the saga" or whatever, and if that confusing non-descript prophecy from the PT was correct then Anakin destroyed the Sith, meaning the Emperor and himself. Lucas said that exact thing in an interview once, so if Disney does count the PT as canon then they'd have to accept that silliness and work around it, also, I know they say the PT is canon, but I'm sure they won't even do so much as watch the prequels before making the ST.

I'm confused: Do you want Sith or don't you want Sith or do you not care?

TMBTM said:

I don't even understand why someone would want to "de-canonize" the PT or the Clone Wars. It would just add more mess to the whole thing in the mind of the audience. It would look like they do not know what they're doing. They'd de-canonize some of the movies of the series to remove some concepts that some fans don't like so they could...what? It does not make any sens. Not only from a marketing point of view but also from a storytelling point of view. You can't tell the audience a tale, then, when you arrive to some chapters, sundenly say "wait, no, forget about those early chapters I told you before. What I really wanted to tell you is THIS." It would look so unprofessional... So bad. It would be WAY worse than keeping the PT the way they are and find good stories to tell anyway. THAT would look professional, and maybe working with some concepts that you don't like much can lead to some creativity.

What if they want to tell a story in which someone who wasn't born special decides that they want to use The Force? What if they want to tell the story of how Palpatine taught himself how to use The Force?

One of the reasons that I hate that the prequels made Palpatine a Sith is that I liked the idea that the Sith had a code of honor while Palpatine was a truly evil man who did things arbitrarily. Notice how Vader, Obi-Wan, and Luke have fair fights while Sidious blasts defenseless Luke with lightning.

gizzy2000 said:

This has less to do with the movie itself, but I hope they don't advertise it by "Episode VII" and actually advertise it by it's title. That's one thing I hated about the prequels was how they were referred to as I, II, and III. Then that crap seeped into the OT and they started being referred to as IV, V, and VI. I guess they advertised the prequels by their numbers because the titles were so lame.

EDIT: I know they advertise it as Ep. VII now, but once they pick a title I hope they refer to it as that rather than simply, "Star Wars Episode VII"

Exactly how I feel.

This discussion about R2 flying in AOTC and ROTS.

http://boards.theforce.net/threads/c-3po-and-r2-d2-part-of-the-main-cast-in-the-sequels.50018235/page-6

Inconsistencies. Did R2 really need to fly?

I don't want a republic. There needs to be something left for the heroes to accomplish, we already had an entire trilogy with a republic, and the prequels show that republics don't belong in Star Wars.

DuracellEnergizer said:

^That's part of the reason why I dislike the Rule of Two and -- by extension -- the modern incarnation of the Sith. The premise that they're so emotionally unstable and PURE EVUL that they'd wipe themselves out through infighting if there were more than two of them at a time is completely ludicrous.

The problem that I referred to was very much present before TPM was released. Vader and Palpatine beg Luke to try to kill them, Kun uses the dark side to kill Nadd, and Ulic uses the dark side to kill Satal.