darklordoftech

luckydube56 said:

darklordoftech said:

luckydube56 said:

I honestly thought of the Clone Wars as a battle between the folks that became the rebellion and some other entity (clones) that had absolutely nothing to do with Palpatine or what became known as the Empire.  

In that case, where did you think that Palpatine and what became known as the Empire came from?

 I thought Palpatine and the Empire was an offshoot of a rift between two sides of the victors of the Clone Wars.  

Like after the Clone Wars, two political factions on the victor's side bickered with each other.  Much like the PT actually but in the PT the Clones were a tool of good before they became comandeered by Palpatine.  I didnt see it that way in my mind.  There was no direct lineage in my mind between the clones and the stormtroopers.

I honestly just thought the Clones were its own violent and deadly faction that was quelled by the republic.  

And my perception of timelines relative to Anakin's life was much different than it turned out.  In my own version of the mythology, Anakin was turned to the dark side much later in life.  I dont know why.  In my version of the mythology, the PT would have actually been 4 to 6 films.  The first being his tragically difficult childhood, followed by a triumphant and beloved Anakin in his prime, followed by his eventual fall as he became older and more cynical as life began taking from him.  And in the grand scheme, the Clone Wars were a violent and historically significant event but really a footnote in Anakin's story arc.  

So if I'm getting this right, here's the sequence of events that you had in mind:

1. Clones attack Republic.

2. Anakin and Obi-Wan defeat the clones.

3. Many years later, Senator Palpatine runs for Chancellor and gets Anakin to support his campaign.

4. Palpatine becomes Chancellor.

5. Palpatine turns Anakin to the dark side and declares himself Emperor with the backing of the Stormtroopers and Moffs.

I dislike Boba and Jango being Mandalorians. Boba isn't a Mandorian in the ESB novelization or in Last Man Standing. A Marvel comic incorrectly made him one and the AOTC tie-in EU forced that Marvel comic into continuity.

luckydube56 said:

I honestly thought of the Clone Wars as a battle between the folks that became the rebellion and some other entity (clones) that had absolutely nothing to do with Palpatine or what became known as the Empire.  

In that case, where did you think that Palpatine and what became known as the Empire came from?

moviefreakedmind said: I'd love to see them blatantly contradict the prequels in the ST.

What I'd love even more would be the irony of the Sith (a prequel concept) being kept out of the ST by another prequel concept (the prophecy).

SilverWook said:

Clive Revill is still around, according to the IMDB. His last credit was from 2012 though.

2012 isn't bad, and they can always find a soundalike if they need to.

Should the original ESB Emperor appearance and voice be reused for the big bad of episodes 7-9?

In The Star Wars, the Empire invades Alderaan in order to obtain Alderaan's cloning technology. In 1977, the Clone Wars may have been intended to be wars fought for possession of cloning technology rather than wars in which clones were combatants.

There were conflicting stories of Boba's escape from the Sarlacc, so Leland Chee said that Boba escaped, fell back in, and escaped again. Why couldn't Chee have said that one of the escape stories was an in-universe rumor?

WedgeCyan said: You want to see Palpy fight with a lightsaber?

only because it's a fighting game and not a canonical event

Palpatine vs. Exar Kun

DuracellEnergizer said:

^If an organization's in charge instead of parents/other guardians, it smacks too much of brainwashing.

That, plus if any of the Jedi-raised babies grow up to want to be a Dark Jedi, they'll have all the training that they need to become one.

bkev said:

I just read this and rather enjoyed it. I only hope that the teased sequel on the last page is something Disney would be interested in publishing. My guess is that it was done merely in the spirit of pulp fiction rather than a genuine plan, but who knows? With Dark Horse no longer holding the license for comic publishing I doubt we'll see it. Still, I can hope.

I'd love rough/first draft adaptations for ESB and ROTJ. 

Trained-from-birth Jedi or any of the prequel Jedi rules. 

Here's my timeline (keep in mind that the ANH screenplay describes Luke as 18 years old):

- 35 BBY or earlier: Clone Wars begin

- 35 BBY: Battle of Honoghr

- 30 BBY: Nejaa Halcyon dies

- 20-25 BBY: Bpfasshi incident

- 18 BBY: birth of the Empire, extermination of the Jedi, and birth of Leia and Luke

The Legends universe could have been continued as a separate universe. In the end, the concept of canon killed the Legends universe. I don't miss the Legends universe at all, but I find it quite ironic how people harped on it being canon for so long and then canon is what killed it.

This is interesting:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/A_Call_to_Reason

hairy_hen said:

It doesn't explicitly say anywhere that they ended that exact year.  However, Mr. Zahn did state that he asked Lucasfilm about it when he was first outlining the Thrawn books, and was told that the Clone Wars had taken place 35 years before the first movie.  Given that the Empire did not form until around the time of Luke's birth (about 15 years after this), the conclusion that the wars did not directly lead into the Emperor's takeover is obvious.  He must therefore have used the chaos and destruction they left in their wake to gradually create a politically advantageous situation for himself.

Isn't it possible that the Clone Wars as they were described to Zahn lasted 15 years?

TheBoost said:

Tobar said:

*points out once again that, that is just how Pau'ans look, markings included*

 a) The fully realized physical make up looks way different than the cartoon.

b) Even if you're born with KISS make-up, it's still KISS make-up.

c) If a species is born with KISS make-up, that species should be avoided for villains.

The truth is, trying to fix continuity issues often makes things worse. For example, saying that the Empire made people forget about the Jedi would raise the question of how people forgot what they saw 20 years earlier.

and TFNers

TheBoost said: Am I the only person who never finds KISS face paint scary?

You're definitely not the only one. Duracell and I are with you. Hopefully the Inquisitor isn't a sign of what the villains of episodes 7-9 will look like.

doubleofive said:

Luke's ignorance is understandable. HAN'S is something completely different.

I think that Han's and Motti's ignorance is a result of how easily Order 66 was carried out. People thought, "If the Jedi have this all-powerful Force on their side, how did mere clones gun them down so easily?"

SilverWook said:

Wasn't this thread about 4K something or other? ;)

Yup.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Canon should be for religion*, not for fictional franchises.

 

*And even that's questionable.

Correct. Fictional canon is the worst thing to ever happen to fiction.

Whenever somebody says that the legends announcement shrunk the universe, I facepalm. The EU shrunk the universe to death and closed off possibilities for stories.