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DuracellEnergizer said:

pablumatic said:

Ugh. That really bums me out.

The Empire still around after getting soundly trounced thirty years ago.

Much like the Tatooine material I've seen, there's going to have to be a REALLY good explanation for this when the film comes out.

If America could survive the assassinations of Lincoln and Kennedy, I'm 100.100% sure the Galactic Empire could survive the vaporization of Palps.

P.S.: I'm glad the ending of ROTJ: SE is getting shat on. Lucas deserves it. 

This, plus it's better than the Sith returning.

I hate when people say, "The prequels did it, therefore it's ok if the EU does it too." If anything, shouldn't the EU be trying to avoid the problems with the prequels?

Keep in mind that there was no internet in real life when the OOT was released.

Anchorhead said:

Darth Id said:

The characters in SWverse are ignorant to the exact extent Georgie-poo is lazy and solipsized when retconning in heaps of nonsense.

 Bingo. 

There really isn't another answer.  Only the apologists fail to see it.  In fact, they enabled him and allowed him to continue by not calling him on it. 

For example, Vader runs around calling himself Darth in the OT. Apologists will claim that most people in the galaxy don't know what a Sith is. That would be like most Americans not knowing who the British are.

I don't remember anybody complaining about the absence of Sith in the Thrawn books.

I'm sure that in 1998 people thought that Star Wars is about Rebels vs. Empire.

Another thing that I hate about KOTOR is how anachronistic it is. It uses the "Darth" title way too early in the timeline and the technology is way too advanced for all those years before the movies. The prequels doing the two things that I mentioned was bad enough.

The internet needs more people like you, Carthage.

Also, if it's too easy for the Sith to return, fighting against them is meaningless.

ray_afraid said:

Jaitea said:

Mark Hamill looks so cool

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I'd like to see Mark punch the nose of everyone who has said something like "The OT cast is too old to carry a Star Wars film." He already looks a more interesting character than the cast of the PT or any of the new cast I've seen.

seconded 

Carthage said:

Battlefront 1.

TOR and KOTOR are crap

Agreed.

By the way, I love your avatar.

Traviss's Mando worship. Wearing cool armor doesn't make you the good guy.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Lucas-worshipping zealots

Examples of this include:

- thinking that it would be wrong for Disney to release the OOT because it isn't what Lucas wants

- thinking that the way things are in the prequels is the way things always were

Ever wonder who the Whills are? They're mentioned in the novelizations of Star Wars (I've never heard of any movie called A New Hope) and ROTS. 

TMBTM said: I'm not even sure imperial officers and Tarkin in the OT know what a Sith is.

That the galaxy is stupid or ignorant of its own history is the sort of thing that Lucas would say. 

If Palpatine was hiding that he's a Sith, why was Vader running around calling himself "Darth"?

DuracellEnergizer said:

This is how the EU writers handled everything following the release of the SE and PT. If something new contradicts the old, twist the old to suit the new; don't try to make sure things line up in the first place, just "fix it in post".

So true.

In TOTJ, Ziost is the capital of the Sith Empire, implying that it's the homeworld of the Sith species. Furthermore, TOTJ references the Sith fleeing to Korriban to escape a genocide. However, KOTOR called Korriban "the homeworld of the Sith" and then a starwars.com article about the history of the Sith explained that the Sith species began on Korriban and moved to Ziost following a destructive conflict.

What I hate is that KOTOR said that Korriban is the Sith homeworld when that clearly wasn't the case and then the starwars.com article went with KOTOR's incorrect statement instead of declaring KOTOR an unreliable narrator.

Tobar said:

the influence of the SE is becoming more prevalent. I hate that they're modeling the Tie explosions off of the desaturated shots from ANH. =(

The saddest part is that everyone will love it for not being like the prequels.

TFN insists on the most convoluted explanations possible for things. For example, when Yoda calls Luke, "the last of the Jedi", it could easily be that the others quit being Jedi, but TFN insists that it be because of Yoda's ignorance. I wish that there was a "What do you HATE about TFN?" thread.

Tyrphanax said: PT Boba who gets killed by OT Boba.

Should OT Boba's real name be Jaster Mereel?

P.S. Sydow's voice in Ghostbusters II sounds very similar to Revill's in ESB.

I don't think that there will be Sith because JJ and Kasdan haven't shown any signs of caring about the Sith at all.

DuracellEnergizer said:

To put things more succinctly:

• In the continuity of the Marvel comics, Boba Fett was a Mandalorian who fought in the Clone Wars alongside Fenn Shysa and other Mandalorians under the banner of the Empire before going rogue and becoming a bounty hunter.
• In the post-Marvel, pre-AOTC EU, Boba Fett was a Journeyman Protector-turned-bounty hunter whose real name was Jaster Mereel. He had no known ties to the Mandalorians beyond wearing a suit of their armour he found some time after adopting his new identify.
• In the post-AOTC EU, Boba Fett was once again a Mandalorian. It wasn't said so in AOTC, but the EU writers ran with the idea because -- well -- just because.
• In the post-TCW continuity, Boba Fett is back to being just a bounty hunter who wears Mandalorian armour without having any ties to them.

There's also the ESB novelization, which says that Boba wears "the sort of armor" worn by Mandos.

It seems to me that Mandalorians resemble the first draft ("The Star Wars") Sith. Both are warriors who serve the bad guys, but follow a code of honor. Both are also rivals of the Jedi.As I said above, I wish that the Sith code of honor wasn't dropped when making TPM.

Bingowings said:

skyjedi2005 said:

Bingowings said:

Darth Vader vs Obi-Wan Kenobi over the edge of a volcano.

 You mean after he killed Skywalker that was the original concept.

Vader was a separate character and not Luke's father.

It was in 78 or 79 he decided on making Vader the father. 

Yeah imagine a star wars where Luke and Leia and Darth are not related.  You pretty much can only watch the first movie.

ESB heavily hinted that this was Luke's father and ROTJ named him I have no problem with that but to have him openly Hayden at that point in the story on a volcanic planet doesn't do it for me.

When the idea was put to me I saw a red bladed, masked, helmeted villain fighting a noble Knight over a volcano. The villain got a blade slash to the back of the head and got horribly injured when he fell into the crater (presumed dead).

Since seeing Vader in the meditation chamber in 1980 I imagined that fight and the I got ROTS.

Why would Vader wear his mask/helmet/armor before he got injured?