darklordoftech

imperialscum said:

darklordoftech said:

imperialscum said:

pablumatic said:

darklordoftech said:

imperialscum said:

darklordoftech said:

and I'll never get the hypocrites who think that the Empire returning is worse than the Sith returning.

Well Empire returning is just as bad as Sith returning. 

I understand thinking that it's just as bad. What I don't understand is thinking that it's worse.

 Sith returning I can see as being possible.

True.

For Sith to return it takes just a single force user to start calling himself a "Sith".

While Empire was a very complex structure consisting of countless words, people and sub-organisations.

So purely from the plausibility perspective, Empire returning is indeed much worse than Sith returning.

Take a look at the subsequent posts. I point out that it's just as easy for someone to start calling themselves an "Imperial".

The difference is that if some force user starts calling himself a "Sith" it essentially classify as Sith return, while even if an entire planet/sector starts calling themselves "Imperial" would not come even close to Empire return.

Even if it's not the Empire returning, Imperials can return.

I'd rather we don't get people deciding to call themselves a "Sith" or an "Imperial". It's a cheap and contrived way to bring back a dead faction. If they want Sith or Imperials to appear, I'd rather that they be connected to those of I-VI.

imperialscum said:

pablumatic said:

darklordoftech said:

imperialscum said:

darklordoftech said:

and I'll never get the hypocrites who think that the Empire returning is worse than the Sith returning.

Well Empire returning is just as bad as Sith returning. 

I understand thinking that it's just as bad. What I don't understand is thinking that it's worse.

 Sith returning I can see as being possible.

True.

For Sith to return it takes just a single force user to start calling himself a "Sith".

While Empire was a very complex structure consisting of countless words, people and sub-organisations.

So purely from the plausibility perspective, Empire returning is indeed much worse than Sith returning.

Take a look at the subsequent posts. I point out that it's just as easy for someone to start calling themselves an "Imperial".

AntcuFaalb said:

http://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/2dqm18/disney_to_release_original_unaltered_cut_of_star/

This Reddit thread is so fucking depressing. Why, you ask?

  1. The number of people convinced that the OUT was completely destroyed.

  2. The number of people who want some Frankenstein'sMonster-esque mishmash of OUT and SE.

  3. "Weren't the originals released on DVD in 2006?"... 'nuff said.

  4. The (surprising) number of people who think selling an LD->BD rip would be acceptable.

  5. The presence of the token "People still buy physical media???!" guy.

And, to a lesser extent...

  6. The obsession over the ownership of the distribution rights.

I don't expect everyone to be like us, but I just don't understand these people.

I'm going to bed. -_-

#2 is the worst. They seem to see the release of the OOT as a threat to the SEs.

Also, I don't want Neo anything. If there has to be Sith, I'd rather they be connected to the Sith of I-VI.

pablumatic said:

darklordoftech said:

pablumatic said: A few Neo Imperials could at most cause some disturbances, but without super powers their efforts would be impotent.

What if a bunch of Force users decide to become Neo Imperials?

 Then you're talking about a repeat of the prequels and who would want to see that?

The prequels don't involve Force users becoming Imperials. Wouldn't Force users becoming Neo Sith be more of a prequel repeat?

pablumatic said: A few Neo Imperials could at most cause some disturbances, but without super powers their efforts would be impotent.

What if a bunch of Force users decide to become Neo Imperials?

The Merchant said:

I'm undecisive whether I want an ancient Sith Lord as a force ghost to be the antagonist TBH. For some reason I have a gut feeling that Darth Bane is going to play some role in the sequel trilogy.

I'd rather Darth Bane than Darth Plagueis.

pablumatic said: You also can't sanction individuals.

Meaning that if an individual decides to become a Neo Imperial, that individual can't be sanctioned.

Also, what happens if a group of Force users decide to become Neo Imperials?

SilverWook said:

Luke going dark has been done twice already. ;)

Twice? I know of one time in the EU, and I was enraged by it.

The Merchant said:

I really hope we don't get Luke Skywalker falling to the dark-side or some nonsense like that.

I agree with you on this. The whole point of Luke is that he refuses to fall.

pablumatic said:

darklordoftech said:

pablumatic said: Sith returning I can see as being possible. There would always be a few willing to dabble in the Dark Side of the Force.

If it's that easy to become a Sith, wouldn't it be just as easy to become an Imperial? 

If the Empire was supposed to be Space Nazis then their equivalent to a defunct Empire would be Space Neo Nazis/Space Skinheads.

Angry, militant cranks that don't have any power to create armies or wars.

The planet that all the evil British guys came from would be full of them. I figure whatever new Republic that sprang up after Return of the Jedi would keep that planet heavily sanctioned to avoid a repeat.

When you said about Neo Sith "the new practitioners shouldn't be able to get very far", were you saying the same thing about Neo Sith that you're saying here about Neo Imperials?

ratpack1961 said:

I have a feeling that in order to not dishonor Lucas that a fully restored OUT will not happen at least not soon. 

Name one corporation that cares about "not dishonoring" someone.

ratpack1961 said:

All of the attention will be on the new films anyway so they want everyone thinking about that new timeline and era with Rebels and not so concentrated on the OT.

The OT is iconic, and I doubt that Disney has any desire to change that. Also, people concentrating on the OT isn't going to prevent them from concentrating on the ST and Rebels.

pablumatic said: Sith returning I can see as being possible. There would always be a few willing to dabble in the Dark Side of the Force.

If it's that easy to become a Sith, wouldn't it be just as easy to become an Imperial? 

KilroyMcFadden said:

...AND the TFNr's are already debating which changes should stay.   #smh

http://boards.theforce.net/threads/rumor-disney-to-release-unaltered-old-trilogy-on-br.50020327/page-8

Sadly, the same is occuring on Reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/2dqm18/disney_to_release_original_unaltered_cut_of_star/

Platitude said:

They're skeptical of this, and I agree.  The distribution rights issues make it a real complicated situation.

If they don't do something about the distribution rights, all versions of ANH will go out of print in 2020, so whether or not Disney wants to release the OOT, they'll have to do something about the distribution rights by 2020.

riddler95 said:

I wonder if Disney will ask George Lucas to come in and approve the HD Presentations when this major restoration is completed.

No way! That would be like asking for Nixon's approval before passing laws that weaken the executive branch.

imperialscum said:

darklordoftech said:

and I'll never get the hypocrites who think that the Empire returning is worse than the Sith returning.

Well Empire returning is just as bad as Sith returning. 

I understand thinking that it's just as bad. What I don't understand is thinking that it's worse.

and I'll never get the hypocrites who think that the Empire returning is worse than the Sith returning.

moviefreakedmind said: so many people seem to think that Star Wars is about Sith vs. Jedi.

If anything, Star Wars is about Rebels vs. Empire. Just read the opening crawls of the OOT.

Tack said:

I have a terrible feeling that a series of treatments I read a few years ago are going to become a reality...

What treatments did you read a few years ago?

TV's Frink said:

Ziggy Stardust said:

I want it to be better than Guardians of the Galaxy. 

 That's not what you don't want.

As the creator of this thread, I have no problem with Ziggy's post.

How about a KOTOR-like game set during the era of the original trilogy? 

What I don't get is why people complain about the Empire returning but don't complain about the Sith returning. The Empire is at least as important to Star Wars as the Sith are.

Verboten said: It also makes it seem like Luke and the Rebels didn't actually accomplish anything. Who cares that they defeated the Sith if there is still an evil dictatorship running things?

This is what I always say about the Sith returning.

Tyrphanax said:

It's strange that so many people were torn up about losing the canonicity of post-Jedi EU like the Thrawn Trilogy, and yet there are people who are just as annoyed that the Empire is still alive and kicking when basically all post-Jedi EU included the Imperial Remnant in some form.

So true.

The worst is a group of TFN'ers who don't want the Empire to appear because they think that Star Wars should only be about Jedi and Sith.