SilverWook said:
That would be like "preserving" the Beatles' catalog as MP3's. Seriously, is there something in the water at Skywalker Ranch?
Skywalker Ranch: Something in the water since 1997.
moviefreakedmind said:
Again, my thinking is that, if they do this, they'll make the blu rays EXACTLY like all the video tapes of the movies, which I'm pretty sure never changed, and most (or all?) of the minor changes before 97 were done before the tapes, or just between the prints in cinemas. That would be the smartest decision, so that way if there's complaining they can just say, "these are the movies that you saw on tape up until '97" and honestly, that's what I want them to do. For example, I've heard that originally Empire didn't have as many shots of rebel ships at the end, but we're ALL used to seeing it the way it was on the tapes, and I honestly wouldn't be heart-broken even if they didn't branch something like that (which they could if they wanted to), same with the title crawl. I'm guessing that if we get a blu ray of the OUT, it'll be the exact same (content-wise) as our old tapes and LD's
1. There were three pre-97 VHS versions. One was released in 1982, another was released in 1985, and the last was released in 1995. They might have used different IPs.
2. We don't know what resolutions the VHS versions exist in or the condition of the IPs.
moviefreakedmind said:
I know, but in Empire for example I believe there were a couple of shots of the rebel fleet added in later prints that were also on the tapes. Is it unacceptable if those are included too?
If thoss shots were in some theatrical prints, their inclusion wouldn't be an issue, but if they were only in home video releases, their inclusion would be unacceptable.
moviefreakedmind said:
I'd be surprised if they take out the New Hope crawl, if they do then it'll make the saga less cohesive
The idea of a cohesive saga has always come off to me as Lucas ocd. When ESB came out, nobody besides Lucas complained about ESB having an episode number and subtitle while Star Wars (1977 film) didn't. When AOTC came about, nobody besides Lucas complained about Morrison not sounding like Wingreen.
moviefreakedmind said:
So all of the tapes and LD's were unacceptable too?
They were acceptable for what they were marketed as, but going back to them would be GOUT all over again. Why use something created in 1993 when you can use something created in 1977/1980/1983?
Danfun128 said: Unfortunately, there are many special editions changes that I liked.
Releasing the OOT doesn't mean that the SE will be discontinued.
DuracellEnergizer said:
Why exactly did they make her a Mandalorian, again?
to appeal to Traviss-worshippers
TheBoost said:
Tyrphanax said:
I'll probably be burnt at the stake for this, but Darth Revan.
Revan was awesome.
Much like Boba Fett, he was cool, bad ass, and mysterious.
was being the key word
m_s0 said:
Nien Nunb said:
darklordoftech said:
Darth Id said:
I expect the mono mix will get shafted.
I actually think that there's a good chance of the mono mix being included and it would make me happy beyond words, but I won't complain as long as one of the 19777 mixes is included.
Wasn't it said in some interview with Matthew Wood or somebody that when they were doing the sound mix for the 2011 Blu-Ray, they also digitized all previous sound mixes for the film?
If this does actually happen, I just hope the original films themselves are made available as their own set or sold individually and not in another megaset where I'm forced to purchase the prequels again.
Also, If Disney is doing this, This is the company who released The Lion King on Blu-Ray with missing VFX and The Little Mermaid with swapped shots in the wrong order and straight cuts when there should have been dissolves. It seems like even if this is really happening, there's lots of room for them to screw something up.
They digitized them, but only as 192kbps wma files, because George didn't think they needed to go any higher.
They could always be digitized again now that George is out of the picture.
Darth Id said:
I expect the mono mix will get shafted.
I actually think that there's a good chance of the mono mix being included and it would make me happy beyond words, but I won't complain as long as one of the 1977 mixes is included.
Wedge, Biggs, Porkins
The Merchant said:
Ah so you think that the part with him being originally Dark Lord is not needed basically?
I guess, but I'm not exacly sure what you're asking.
The Merchant said:
Heck if I had a crack at it, I would have made Palpatine a Dark-sider that only affiliated with the Sith for their knowledge and powers and took them for himself, combining it with Jedi and other Force teachings across the Galaxy. He would have been Dark Lord but once he had an apprentice he gave up on the title to them (Which would also explain why Vader is called Dark Lord of the Sith rather than Palpatine.)
There's nothing to contradict this in any of the six movies. In fact, I think that the OT supports this theory. Palpatine is never called "Lord" in the OT and the word "Sith" is never used in the OT, the latter suggesting that the Empire replaced the Sith.
Carthage said:
The Sith are a core part of Star wars at this point
(in an Obi-Wan voice) That's what the prequels told you.
Carthage said:
I would hope they or at least some Dark side element would be apart of the film. Maybe an undiscovered Sith sect, or something unconnected with the Banite line or an Empire in general.
Or better yet, a dark side organization with no connection to the Sith.
Exar Kun
SilverWook said:
darklordoftech said:
I'd also love to hear the mono mix after all these years.
Puggo Grande has the mono mix.
I know.
I'd also love to hear the mono mix after all these years.
gizzy2000 said:
unamochilla2 said:
There is another rumor floating around that before Lucas told off Star Wars, he already made more changes to the OT we haven't seen yet. And the next release from Fox will feature the new changes. Just a rumor, of course.
I think that Disney would know better than to release anymore changes, the backlash to the stupid beyond all human comprehension changes in 2011 was pretty bad. If Disney is distancing themselves from all the prequel stuff, I think they'd also want to distance themselves from the Special Edition.
Agreed 100%.
If they need a surviving enemy from I-VI, there's always the dark side. One can easily use the dark side without calling themselves a "Sith", and I can't imagine anybody complaining about new dark side users not being called "Sith".
unamochilla2 said:
I love that poster. Good times.
Agreed. I love how there's no episode numbers and no "A New Hope".
JT 1138 said:
I'd like to just have the OUT and '97 versions.
Same here.
SilverWook said:
Palpatine had it converted into a Hooters though. ;)
I figured that Palpatine converted it into affordable housing for Gungans because that would be a bigger insult to the Jedi than destroying the temple. ;)
gizzy2000 said: the 97 SE will never be released again.
Noooooo!!!!!! I want to be able to watch the extended celebrations and hear the new celebration music without Hayden.
Baronlando said:
AntcuFaalb said:
http://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/2dqm18/disney_to_release_original_unaltered_cut_of_star/
This Reddit thread is so fucking depressing.
On the bright side, it seems like there's a lot less of those "George's Vision" cultists still left out there, the guys still clinging to the image of GL as some kind of Kubricky perfectionist, with the special edition as the ultimate expression of that integrity. They were always the worst.
They probably gave up when episodes 7-9 were announced. "George's Vision" was that ROTJ is the end.
If someone decides to call themselves a "Sith", I'll walk out of the theater, throw away my Star Wars stuff, and cease to be a Star Wars fan.
imperialscum said:
darklordoftech said:
imperialscum said:
darklordoftech said:
imperialscum said:
pablumatic said:
darklordoftech said:
imperialscum said:
darklordoftech said:
and I'll never get the hypocrites who think that the Empire returning is worse than the Sith returning.
Well Empire returning is just as bad as Sith returning.
I understand thinking that it's just as bad. What I don't understand is thinking that it's worse.
Sith returning I can see as being possible.
True.
For Sith to return it takes just a single force user to start calling himself a "Sith".
While Empire was a very complex structure consisting of countless words, people and sub-organisations.
So purely from the plausibility perspective, Empire returning is indeed much worse than Sith returning.
Take a look at the subsequent posts. I point out that it's just as easy for someone to start calling themselves an "Imperial".
The difference is that if some force user starts calling himself a "Sith" it essentially classify as Sith return, while even if an entire planet/sector starts calling themselves "Imperial" would not come even close to Empire return.
Even if it's not the Empire returning, Imperials can return.
I'd rather we don't get people deciding to call themselves a "Sith" or an "Imperial". It's a cheap and contrived way to bring back a dead faction. If they want Sith or Imperials to appear, I'd rather that they be connected to those of I-VI.
Well I am not a fan of either returning. I was just arguing against your original statement.
ok
imperialscum said:
darklordoftech said:
imperialscum said:
pablumatic said:
darklordoftech said:
imperialscum said:
darklordoftech said:
and I'll never get the hypocrites who think that the Empire returning is worse than the Sith returning.
Well Empire returning is just as bad as Sith returning.
I understand thinking that it's just as bad. What I don't understand is thinking that it's worse.
Sith returning I can see as being possible.
True.
For Sith to return it takes just a single force user to start calling himself a "Sith".
While Empire was a very complex structure consisting of countless words, people and sub-organisations.
So purely from the plausibility perspective, Empire returning is indeed much worse than Sith returning.
Take a look at the subsequent posts. I point out that it's just as easy for someone to start calling themselves an "Imperial".
The difference is that if some force user starts calling himself a "Sith" it essentially classify as Sith return, while even if an entire planet/sector starts calling themselves "Imperial" would not come even close to Empire return.
Even if it's not the Empire returning, Imperials can return.
I'd rather we don't get people deciding to call themselves a "Sith" or an "Imperial". It's a cheap and contrived way to bring back a dead faction. If they want Sith or Imperials to appear, I'd rather that they be connected to those of I-VI.
imperialscum said:
pablumatic said:
darklordoftech said:
imperialscum said:
darklordoftech said:
and I'll never get the hypocrites who think that the Empire returning is worse than the Sith returning.
Well Empire returning is just as bad as Sith returning.
I understand thinking that it's just as bad. What I don't understand is thinking that it's worse.
Sith returning I can see as being possible.
True.
For Sith to return it takes just a single force user to start calling himself a "Sith".
While Empire was a very complex structure consisting of countless words, people and sub-organisations.
So purely from the plausibility perspective, Empire returning is indeed much worse than Sith returning.
Take a look at the subsequent posts. I point out that it's just as easy for someone to start calling themselves an "Imperial".