Darth Id said:
darklordoftech said:
I demand and expect the OOT. I don't demand or expect the 97SEs, but they would be a wonderful bonus. In fact, giving the 97SEs the GOUT treatment would go a long way.
"Wonderful"?
Have you ever actually seen those things?
"wonderful" as in inclusive
I demand and expect the OOT. I don't demand or expect the 97SEs, but they would be a wonderful bonus. In fact, giving the 97SEs the GOUT treatment would go a long way.
moviefreakedmind said:
darklordoftech said:
moviefreakedmind said:
sadly I have little hope for seeing Shaw's ghost... :\
Why is that?
Just intuition I guess; it's hard to put into words. It's kind of because, while it's completely atrocious to people like us, to the non-fan (or TFN guy) the Hayden change isn't non-sensical in the same way that Greedo shooting or the extra rocks are.
I'd love to be proven wrong though!
Gotcha, although I have the opposite intuition and I think that it is non-sensical. What's the point of making a ghost look younger?
moviefreakedmind said:
sadly I have little hope for seeing Shaw's ghost... :\
Why is that?
How about Han shooting first + 04 Jabba + Shaw as Anakin's ghost?
moviefreakedmind said:
Ok, I'll admit that I'd be pretty surprised if Vader's "NOOOO" or R2's extra rocks make it into the next "Special Edition" release, or even Han shooting second (and maaaybe Jedi Rocks if we're lucky) especially since Vader's "NO" and Hayden Christiansen would have to be re-added if they're 4K restoring the 97 negative. The ONLY people who like those changes are crazy TFN people who only like them because they're in a Star Wars movie, and if anyone but Lucas added them in they'd hate those changes too. Not to mention, people who are like that would buy the new release anyway, so really it'd be no loss for Disney. What I meant by "current version" was whatever version with the changes is released next, alongside the originals.
Gotcha. That makes sense, and it just so happens that I was about to post about the 4K issue.
moviefreakedmind said:
I don't think Lucasfilm will ever release any versions but the original and the current version.
I have a hard time believing that the '11 versions are the final versions. NOBODY likes Vader saying no, Han shooting second, Hayden as Anakin's ghost, etc. If there's any versions that there's no market for, it's the '11 versions.
kk650 said:
riddler95 said:
Nick66 said:
Just give me the pre 97 films (I'm OK with the 81 crawl) with a full restoration (hello Robert Harris) without excessive DVNR and colours that match the previous home video releases (at a minimum)*, and original audio in HD and I'll be happy....once they do that as far as I'm concerned they can add as many audio tracks as they'd like and release the old SE's and create new ones to their hearts content....I even promise to buy them.
*EDIT: I'd prefer a colour timing that matches the original theatrical releases, of course but I don't even know if anyone at Lucasfilm or Disney even knows what the films looked like back then anymore.
Robert Harris would do anything he could to perfectly color correct the Original Theatrical Versions to match exactly how they looked when they were originally released in 1977, 1980, and 1983.
If the wildly inconsistant colour grading/image dynamics of the Star Wars Despecialised Edition is truely representative of how it looked when it came out in the theatres in 1977
Which I have a hard time believing it is.
kk650 said:
imperialscum said:
Harmy said:
This is true. With the analog technology, no two prints looked the same - so taking a few low fade prints as a reference and making a sort of amalgamation of that would give you something approaching the "original" colors. So, I don't think it would be a good idea for a major professional restoration to stick religiously to one particular print, if they have access to more and they probably should keep the clors somewhat consistent throughout the film. What I think should however definitely be done, is to keep the over-all color schemes of each sequence as they appear on the original prints - it would be very wrong for a restoration to attempt to make the film look modern.
The Godfather restoration is a great example of that - the colors are nice and consistent and probably better than even on the initial release, but they have that beautiful vintage look fitting for the era in which the movie was made.
When it comes to this matter I think probably the best technique to restore the colours is to just call the Director or DP and let them give their judgement regarding what kind of colour tone they were trying to achieve on the set. It will be subjective of course but I still think it better than using some worn-out film stock and letting someone who had nothing to do with the film (i.e. what people refer to as "professional") subjectively decide the tone.
I imagine this is exactly what they'll do. Might be a little scary having GL involved in that process though, which I imagine he would be even if he doesn't own Lucasfilm anymore, at the very least for the first film which he directed. Look at what he did with Star Wars, the blu-ray that looks the worst of the original trilogy IMHO, a dark overly contrasty/saturated blue mess...
One can only hope that if these UOT releases happen, Star Wars in particular will be treated with the utmost respect this time round, maintaining its filmic look and the feel of the decade it was shot in, rather than creating a totally new modern looking colour scheme with a strong blanket tint across the whole film like Raiders of the Lost Ark or one of James Cameron's films on blu-ray with their blanket teal tints... *shudder*
I can't imagine them letting Lucas be involved at all. They know how it went last time he was involved.
Watching the 97 VHS of ROTJ, all I could think is "so much better than 04." Reasonable colors, Shaw as Anakin (the 97 ending is awesome beyond words), correct lightsabers, etc.
Nick66 said:
Just give me the pre 97 films (I'm OK with the 81 crawl) with a full restoration (hello Robert Harris) without excessive DVNR and colours that match the previous home video releases (at a minimum)*, and original audio in HD and I'll be happy....once they do that as far as I'm concerned they can add as many audio tracks as they'd like and release the old SE's and create new ones to their hearts content....I even promise to buy them.
*EDIT: I'd prefer a colour timing that matches the original theatrical releases, of course but I don't even know if anyone at Lucasfilm or Disney even knows what the films looked like back then anymore.
In the binary sunset scene, light pink for distance shots and red for the close-up are musts.
To be clear, I interpreted "The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of The Force"' to be like saying "Having the strongest firepower is insignificant next to the power of a good admiral."
Some things I would want:
- corrected lightsabers
- reasonable colors
- 97 ROTJ ending
- no rontos
TV's Frink said:
darklordoftech said:
I don't want The Force to be too powerful. This means no flipping and no planet-destroying.
The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force.
Having said that, where did someone use the force to destroy a planet?
The EU has Darth Nihilus. Vader's "insignificant" comment clearly wasn't intended to refer to raw power.
Whatever happens, I'm certain that we'll end up with something other than the 2011 versions. Is Lucas really going to walk into Iger's or Kennedy's office and say, "Vader MUST say no"?
I don't want The Force to be too powerful. This means no flipping and no planet-destroying.
RicOlie_2 said:
Especially since it's supposed to be a remote, out-of-the-way secret base for the Rebels for a temporary period of time.
Exactly.
Carthage said:
The films do the novel no justice.
I read the novel. Plagueis not staying dead would do the novel no justice.
Carthage said:
darklordoftech said:
Remove that stupid "Darth Plagueis" character.
This hurts me....why?...
There's some really annoyjng theories surrounding him and episodes 7-9. The last thing we need is someone who uses midichlorians of all things to survive.
Hoth in SWTOR. It's world shrinkage.
TV's Frink said:
darklordoftech said:
Palpatine slowly deforming and aging throughout the six movies instead of rapidly deforming and aging in ROTS.
The prequels are only three movies.
I meant that the prequels should have implied that Palpatine further deformed and aged in between ROTS and ROTJ.
Palpatine slowly deforming and aging throughout the six movies instead of rapidly deforming and aging in ROTS.
lovelikewinter said:
My perfect Star Wars Trilogy
Star Wars
1977 and 1981 crawls via seamless breaching
70mm, Stereo and Mono mixes
Deleted Scenes
Trailers
The Making of Star Wars Vintage Doc
Cantina Drunk Driving PSA
The Star Wars Holiday Special (SD)
The Empire Strikes Back
Deleted and extended scenes
Trailers
SFX: Making of ESB
Mark Hamil on the Muppet Show
Ralph McQuarrie Tribute
Return of the Jedi
Deleted and Extended Scenes
Trailers
Classic Creatures: Return of the Jedi
Lapti Nek music video
C-3PO and R2-D2 on Sesame Street
From the Vaults
Empire of Dreams
From Star Wars to Jedi
Lucas VHS interview
Previous DVD extras
Then the Ewok Films on a separate Blu-Ray in HD.
For ROTJ, I'd like to see the 1983 and 1997 endings via seamless branching and there may have been separate 70mm and 35mm mixes for ESB.
The negatives are still 97. That makes it easy to get them released.
Remove that stupid "Darth Plagueis" character.
TV's Frink said:
darklordoftech said:
crissrudd4554 said:
If we own BluRay players why would we want the DVDs???
because DVDs play on computers and Xboxes
So do Blu-rays
I put a blu-ray into my computer. It didn't play. I put a blu-ray into my Xbox. It didn't play.