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- Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *
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I love the pilot helmet. It looks like a modern X-Wing pilot helmet.
I love the pilot helmet. It looks like a modern X-Wing pilot helmet.
I'd love a pre-DC vs. DC/Faces/GOUT comparison. I'm curious about what the pre-DC versions looked like.
here's some comparisons demonstrating why I prefer GOUT over Blu-Ray.
See how there's a cool tinge to the blu-ray? See how the blu-ray ruins the lightsabers?
Picturing the images in motion helps.
AntcuFaalb said:
danny_boy said:
As for members here actually owning one of these rare IB prints then I would like to see some proof of those claims.
My previous post contains more-than-enough information to track down proof.
It takes less effort to aquire the proof than it does to aquire a projector.
The 35mm version of AOTC doesn't have the line "to be angry is to be human". Do you think that the digital version adding this line was a good change or a bad change?
If there's a New Republic Senate, I want to see it. When people complain about "politics" in the prequels, they're complaining that the subject matter was trade embargoes, not that we saw the Senate at all.
DuracellEnergizer said:
Darksaber is such a forgettable novel that I only remember the stuff on Hoth hazily. KJA wrote it, though, so I have no doubt that it's a poor idea executed poorly.
Agreed. The only good thing about Darksaber is the cover.
BBY/ABY being the official calendar of the New Republic. A regime making its own formation year 0 seems Orwellian to me and I'm not sure what purpose the New Republic doing that serves. The New Republic should use the same calendar that was used before The Empire was formed and the Battle of Yavin as year 0 should remain exclusively out-of-universe.
JawsTDS said:
joed424 said:
tb versions?
They're DVB recordings off of some European channel. They're in PAL, but they're digital, which is rare for the '97 SE. They look pretty good. Around 4gigs per film.
Does this mean that 97 exists in digital form in LFL's archives?
nic777 said:
any feed back for how the 1st installment went?
I definitely enjoyed it. I love how you took the concepts behind the prequels and improved the execution.
I think that you should drop "younglings" and "padawans" in favor of "apprentices". I also think that Palpatine is just as important as the Skywalkers. Also, I would drop the concept of the Sith and change "Darth Maul" to simply "Maul". In the OT, nobody cared about Palpatine and Vader being Sith. An organization devoted to killing your master makes no sense and "Darth" being title is silly.
DuracellEnergizer said:
darklordoftech said:
I'm curious as to how you all feel about the one-armed Wampa organizing an army and recognizing Luke.
That was something from the Callista trilogy, wasn't it?
Yup. It's in Darksaber.
TV's Frink said:
his super awesome display.
;)
ben_danger said:
the only satisfactory conclusion of AOTC would be Obi-wan breaking the story and having the Cloning shut down.
Leading the Republic to use normal human soldiers instead, hence the Stormtroopers aren't clones in the OT.
HotRod said:
No one has seen a lightsaber really since Ep3
All those who saw the fight on the Death Star 1 - Dead
No one saw a lighsaber in ESB apart from Luke & Vader
All those who saw a Lighsaber in Jedi - Dead
Apart from our 'Heroes', no one in the galaxy has really seen a lighsaber in battle since the Jedi were in power....A long time ago!
Furthermore, in Star Wars (1977), the Jedi are seen by other characters as a joke and as the underdogs fighting against a technologically superior foe. If the movies made since then are anything to go by, technology should be the underdog. I wonder if TFA will present Jedi as underdogs like the good old days of 1977.
I would have made Luke Skywalker's real name (insert a first name here) Vader instead of making Darth Vader's real name Anakin Skywalker. This way Obi-Wan really did have a pupil named Darth Vader who turned to the dark side, joined the Empire, and betrayed and murdered the Jedi. This means that Imperial propaganda doesn't have to explain where Vader came from and Vader's "my old master" dialogue with Tarkin doesn't hint at Tarkin knowing anything. Instead of Luke not knowing about Anakin because of Tatooine being isolated, Luke doesn't know about Anakin because "Anakin" never existed.
SilverWook said:
One Armed Wampa would be a cool name for a band. ;)
I agree. I want to see a Star Wars Tales comic with a band called One Armed Wampa.
JawsTDS said:
It seems the '97 SE is the hardest to get out of all the versions, not sure why.
I'd bet it's a combination of lack of demand and the non-existence of a DVD release. At this point, LFL giving the 97 SEs the GOUT treatment would go a long way.
I'm curious as to how you all feel about the one-armed Wampa organizing an army and recognizing Luke.
danny_boy said:
darklordoftech said:
danny_boy said:
darklordoftech said:
danny_boy said:
darklordoftech said:
danny_boy said:
darklordoftech said:
danny_boy said: I have compared the GOUT to the bluray on my Sony 4K...........trust me.....it is not even a contest......be it with colours and obviously resolution.
Of course it's not a contest. GOUT looks that much better. In GOUT, snow is white, Star Destroyers are gray, and 3PO is gold. On Blu-Ray, snow is blue, Star Destroyers are also blue, and C-3PO is green.
Well.....if you exclude the jaggies, the digital noise, the optical grain, the limited colour palette ect.....then the laserdisc/GOUT might have a better chance!.
Jaggies: not noticable
Digital noise: not noticable
optical grain: it's called film
limited color palette: I didn't know that gold 3PO indicates a more limited color palette than green 3PO.
Well they might not be noticeable on a crap display.............
I doubt that all of my displays are "crap".
If your display does not show the below....then I would suggest that it is:
My display shows the below. The below looks awesome to me.
that is fair enough mate......I enjoy the GOUT....I enjoy that VHS tape which predates the GOUT by 24 years!......I enjoy Star Wars!
Agreed.
RicOlie_2 said:
I don't think you read my comment....
You ninja'd me.
I'm not complaining that the Blu-Rays are inconsistent with 35mm. I'm complaining that the Blu-Rays are inconsistent with common sense.
Handman said:
danny_boy said:
Handman said:
danny_boy said:
Handman said:
danny_boy said:
@Handman
35mm release prints were notoriously inconsistent from one print to the next and even from the showing of a print to the next showing of the same print!
It is one of the reasons(if not the main reason) why they have been phased out.
Francis Ford Coppola admitted h could not remember what the original Godfather looked like......who can blame Lucas for being the same with Star Wars.
Despite the inconsistencies you claim, I'd take that any day to the consistently messed-up colors of the BD.
Because the colours were so consistent on the laserdisc or on the VHS tapes?!
I was referring to 35mm.
So you have your own personal un-faded 35mm print from which you can reference whether the blu ray is true to it....or not?
No, but from this : http://savestarwars.com/technicoloribscreening.html
It is clear that the BD colors are incorrect, and because of Harmy's and Negative -1's efforts, I soon won't need my own print.
Plus it's common sense that snow is white, Star Destroyers are gray, and 3PO is gold.
danny_boy said:
darklordoftech said:
danny_boy said:
darklordoftech said:
danny_boy said:
darklordoftech said:
danny_boy said: I have compared the GOUT to the bluray on my Sony 4K...........trust me.....it is not even a contest......be it with colours and obviously resolution.
Of course it's not a contest. GOUT looks that much better. In GOUT, snow is white, Star Destroyers are gray, and 3PO is gold. On Blu-Ray, snow is blue, Star Destroyers are also blue, and C-3PO is green.
Well.....if you exclude the jaggies, the digital noise, the optical grain, the limited colour palette ect.....then the laserdisc/GOUT might have a better chance!.
Jaggies: not noticable
Digital noise: not noticable
optical grain: it's called film
limited color palette: I didn't know that gold 3PO indicates a more limited color palette than green 3PO.
Well they might not be noticeable on a crap display.............
I doubt that all of my displays are "crap".
If your display does not show the below....then I would suggest that it is:
My display shows the below. The below looks awesome to me.
Handman said:
danny_boy said:
Handman said:
danny_boy said:
@Handman
35mm release prints were notoriously inconsistent from one print to the next and even from the showing of a print to the next showing of the same print!
It is one of the reasons(if not the main reason) why they have been phased out.
Francis Ford Coppola admitted h could not remember what the original Godfather looked like......who can blame Lucas for being the same with Star Wars.
Despite the inconsistencies you claim, I'd take that any day to the consistently messed-up colors of the BD.
Because the colours were so consistent on the laserdisc or on the VHS tapes?!
I was referring to 35mm.
Danny will claim that 35mm is also inconistent.
danny_boy said:
darklordoftech said:
danny_boy said:
darklordoftech said:
danny_boy said: I have compared the GOUT to the bluray on my Sony 4K...........trust me.....it is not even a contest......be it with colours and obviously resolution.
Of course it's not a contest. GOUT looks that much better. In GOUT, snow is white, Star Destroyers are gray, and 3PO is gold. On Blu-Ray, snow is blue, Star Destroyers are also blue, and C-3PO is green.
Well.....if you exclude the jaggies, the digital noise, the optical grain, the limited colour palette ect.....then the laserdisc/GOUT might have a better chance!.
Jaggies: not noticable
Digital noise: not noticable
optical grain: it's called film
limited color palette: I didn't know that gold 3PO indicates a more limited color palette than green 3PO.
Well they might not be noticeable on a crap display.............
I doubt that all of my displays are "crap".