darklordoftech

Is Lucas agreeing or disagreeing with Foster's take on Vader's motives and goals?

Alderaan said:

Vader means father in Dutch, so there's basically no chance that part was made up later.

1. Vader is still connected Luke's father in that he killed Luke's father.

2. In The Star Wars, the character called "Darth Vader" inVADEs Aquilae.

http://cinetropolis.net/star-wars-splinter-of-the-minds-eye-story-conference/

The worst part about the Fox "issue" is that it prevents discussion about the OOT from occuring on any site besides this one.

Handman said:

darklordoftech said:

RU.08 said:

Because 1080p isn't a broadcast standard - they either have to use 1080i or 720p.

I was asking why they don't use 720p.

 I know ESPN does. Apparently ABC does too.

Good to see that Disney has a brain.

RU.08 said:

Because 1080p isn't a broadcast standard - they either have to use 1080i or 720p.

I was asking why they don't use 720p.

Yoda definitely shouldn't be a public figure in the prequels because him being one raises the question of why Yoda never came up in the conversations that Luke had with other members of the Rebel Alliance in between SW and ESB. Considering that they're in rebellion against the Empire and are in hiding for that reason, there's no way that they're going to respect Imperial bans on talking about Jedi.

NeverarGreat said:

darklordoftech said:

NeverarGreat said:

obikal said:

brash_stryker said:

obikal said:

The fight between Yoda and Palp RUINED Yoda in my eyes.

Luke: "Is the dark side stronger?"

Yoda: emphatically "No!"

Oh really Yoda?  In 900 years I guess your memory is fading...  I take it you don't remember that fight where you lost to a much younger Sith Lord pretty handedly?  And then fled like a dog that just pooped on the floor?

The fight needs to be similar to the Dooku fight in Ep 2: Yoda needs to be able to take on Sidious with no problem.  The true fight shouldn't be between their "power levels" with the force - Yoda should dominate if so - it should be that Sidious fights dirty, endangering innocent lives or other would-be victims that Yoda needs to exert extra "Force power" to save.

Even better, innocent people die as Yoda is unable to save them all - but witnesses only see Yoda as Sidious flees the scene.  Yoda then has to go into hiding due to the public's uproar against the Jedi and his own shame in not being able to save everyone...

Yoda shouldn't fight at all. I've gone so far as to say that he shouldn't be in the Prequels at all. Just mentioned as this great Jedi who trained a bunch of the wisest masters in the order. You could even have a mythology built around him, where young Jedi in training have conversations about him and share rumours. "I heard he's 8 feet tall and wields 2 lightsabers!" And of course when we then finally meet Yoda in ESB, we realise he's powerful in a whole different way - beyond the physical.

Hmm, interesting idea, I like it.  

I would prefer him not being in the prequels at all vs being in the story and not take action against Sidious.  I guess if he's not in the story at all - he's still not taking action against Sidious...  seems too passive thinking about it.  

Again when training Luke: 'a Jedi uses the force for defense' - should we see Yoda do this?  To protect the innocent?

Yoda's philosophy seems to be rather indifferent to the suffering of others, or rather views their suffering as a necessary sacrifice, and to help them would cause more problems than it solves. He basically says this to Luke, and it's an understandably difficult pill to swallow. The Masters aren't traditional superheroes, and they certainly don't vow to uphold Truth, Justice, and the American Way. In the OT, Masters were not simply the most powerful Knights, but a different Force user entirely. They were Force gurus, able to train the Knights who were more traditional keepers of peace and justice.

Did you get a similar impression of The Emperor? 

Now there's an interesting idea - use the moral ambiguity of the Jedi Masters as one of the Emperor's justifications for starting a war for the 'greater good' of the galaxy. Back when I first went to see ROTS Palpy seemed to be doing just this, sowing the seeds of distrust in Anakin's mind about the questionable motives of the Jedi council. But it didn't really go anywhere.

I was actually referring to whether The Emperor is a "master" or a "knight" in the OT, but that is an awesome idea. The novelization implies that part of why Anakin turned is because he thought that the Jedi were just like the Sith except more passive.

Wazzles said:

Handman said:

RU.08 said:

Handman, there's a cap of the Jap widescreen LD on the spleen if that interests you, it's the theatrical cut and has japaneese subtitles throughout (subtitles are in the borders not the picture). It's pretty close to DVD quality.

 Thanks for letting me know. As ray_afraid pointed out, the Pan and Scan release differs a little from the original theatrical cut, and the Pan and Scan-iness offers a possible nostalgia factor. I'll still offer this to anyone who wants it, though there are other options, as you said.

 If it's deinterlaced, I'd be interested in seeing it on the spleen.

Speaking of interlacing, why do most HD broadcasts interlace when almost nobody has an interlacing HDTV?

Handman said:

RU.08 said:

Handman, there's a cap of the Jap widescreen LD on the spleen if that interests you, it's the theatrical cut and has japaneese subtitles throughout (subtitles are in the borders not the picture). It's pretty close to DVD quality.

 Thanks for letting me know. As ray_afraid pointed out, the Pan and Scan release differs a little from the original theatrical cut, and the Pan and Scan-iness offers a possible nostalgia factor. I'll still offer this to anyone who wants it, though there are other options, as you said.

I definitely think that there's a generation that would enjoy this.

NeverarGreat said:

obikal said:

brash_stryker said:

obikal said:

The fight between Yoda and Palp RUINED Yoda in my eyes.

Luke: "Is the dark side stronger?"

Yoda: emphatically "No!"

Oh really Yoda?  In 900 years I guess your memory is fading...  I take it you don't remember that fight where you lost to a much younger Sith Lord pretty handedly?  And then fled like a dog that just pooped on the floor?

The fight needs to be similar to the Dooku fight in Ep 2: Yoda needs to be able to take on Sidious with no problem.  The true fight shouldn't be between their "power levels" with the force - Yoda should dominate if so - it should be that Sidious fights dirty, endangering innocent lives or other would-be victims that Yoda needs to exert extra "Force power" to save.

Even better, innocent people die as Yoda is unable to save them all - but witnesses only see Yoda as Sidious flees the scene.  Yoda then has to go into hiding due to the public's uproar against the Jedi and his own shame in not being able to save everyone...

Yoda shouldn't fight at all. I've gone so far as to say that he shouldn't be in the Prequels at all. Just mentioned as this great Jedi who trained a bunch of the wisest masters in the order. You could even have a mythology built around him, where young Jedi in training have conversations about him and share rumours. "I heard he's 8 feet tall and wields 2 lightsabers!" And of course when we then finally meet Yoda in ESB, we realise he's powerful in a whole different way - beyond the physical.

Hmm, interesting idea, I like it.  

I would prefer him not being in the prequels at all vs being in the story and not take action against Sidious.  I guess if he's not in the story at all - he's still not taking action against Sidious...  seems too passive thinking about it.  

Again when training Luke: 'a Jedi uses the force for defense' - should we see Yoda do this?  To protect the innocent?

Yoda's philosophy seems to be rather indifferent to the suffering of others, or rather views their suffering as a necessary sacrifice, and to help them would cause more problems than it solves. He basically says this to Luke, and it's an understandably difficult pill to swallow. The Masters aren't traditional superheroes, and they certainly don't vow to uphold Truth, Justice, and the American Way. In the OT, Masters were not simply the most powerful Knights, but a different Force user entirely. They were Force gurus, able to train the Knights who were more traditional keepers of peace and justice.

Did you get a similar impression of The Emperor? 

A digital SE would go a long way for me. I'm sick of my discs breaking.

Darth Id said:

Fang Zei said:

Oh, boy. There's some confusion of what I meant by "bait-and-switch."

All I was talking about was how annoying it is that Disney's stayed absolutely quiet on the OOT front for two whole years ...

 I think you should maybe prepare yourself for that quiescence, and the annoyance it brings you, for a loooooooooooooong time...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_Order_of_Pessimists

obikal said: 

Luke: "Is the dark side stronger?"

Yoda: emphatically "No!"

Yoda could have been lying.

RicOlie_2 said:

He said "OT" not "OOT."

but he also said "bait-and-switch". Marketing the SE as an OT isn't a bait-and-switch, marketing the SE as the OOT is.

CatBus said:

Fang Zei said:

Well, we've now seen an actual trailer for Episode 7 without having heard anything from Disney about the OOT.

Anyone think they'll keep this bait-and-switch going all the way up to release?

By "this bait-and-switch", you mean selling the SE as if it were the OT, correct?  

The blu-rays have updated copyrights. There's a big difference between only releasing the SEs and marketing the SEs as the OOT.

ray_afraid said:

I've never read anything about this, but I first noticed it while watchin' the P&S VHS. The jumping the gap shot was in the trailer, I think, and somehow I noticed it was missing.

Just because it was in the trailer doesn't mean that it was in the theatrical cut. I wonder whether or not it's in the laserdisc.

timdiggerm said:

The contention is that he is an existing character from the prequel films, and the revelation of his identity will shock viewers.

Come on, come on, Ric!

Seriously though, I have no idea who this could be. Who's left? 

Jar Jar a.k.a. Plagueis

AntcuFaalb said:

The following, if true (I doubt it!), would make a lot of people less pissed at DS2 in RotJ. http://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/2nyd64/rumor_potential_4chan_episode_vii_leak_possible/cmi0tya

I would absolutely hate if it was revealed that The Emperor just wanted to protect the galaxy from a greater threat.

DuracellEnergizer said:

I still hate that godforsaken lightsaber to the deepest inner core of my soul, though.

Me too. I also hate that cloak and hood. Sidious and Maul was enough of that for me.

Darth Lucas said:

I have a theory.  Everybody is talking about the hooded figure speculating he may be an ancient warrior of some kind.  What if this character turns out to be Darth Plagueis?  He actually DID manage to save himself from death and has been in some form of hibernation for years and years. The shot from the trailer is him waking up and igniting his lightsaber ready to kick some ass.  The force awakens.  As in the ultimate user of the force awakens.  Huh?  Huh???

I know it's dumb but I love speculation like this ^-^

I'd prefer someone more ancient than Plagueis. How about Darth Bane, the founder of the Sith, or a being from before the founding of the Sith?

DuracellEnergizer said:

I've been pronouncing it "sigh-dow" myself.

I prefer "dow" as the ending because it allows for Naga Sadow jokes

boards.theforce.net/threads/the-color-of-the-force-awakens.50024692/

DuracellEnergizer said:

That lightsaber could be any or all colours of the rainbow and I'd still hate it, thank you very much.

I second this post.

rockin said:

If anything this trailer has reignited my interest in Star Wars big time, which is a good thing. Now I feel like just want to watch OT again and play all the video games.

Speaking of the video games, I wonder if the X-Wings and TIE Fighters mean that we'll get a new Rogue Squadron game.