joefavs said:

So I saw this again with my parents last night (my fourth viewing). Interestingly enough, they both loved the DJ character and are hoping Del Toro comes back for IX, which is an opinion I haven’t really seen much. Overall, my mom had no problems with the story but preferred the simpler, more restrained style of TFA. My dad had no problems at all. For context, they were 15 and 14 in 1977 respectively, loved the originals, and hated the prequels. They both really liked TFA and my mom adores R1.

As for me, I was able to really lose myself in it again. After my third viewing I was worried that it didn’t have the same kind of endless rewatchability that TFA does for me, but now I’m pretty sure I was just over-tired for that screening. I think I agree with my mom about TFA being the more elegantly executed film, but I haven’t decided yet whether I value that more or less than TLJ’s ambition. In any case, I love them both.

That is interesting that they liked the DJ character, as i haven’t picked up on that from anyone yet either. but maybe that is because i dismissed him almost immediately because i am annoyed by his stutter (annoyed that it was given to the character, i feel that stutters are only added for gimmicy ‘realness’ and usually detract rather than add to a performance).

I saw it for my third time this past Saturday and I am definitely in love with this film. hoping to find a way to see it in proper 2D IMAX, as there are limited showings in that format in my area.

joefavs said:

Porgatory?

APPROVED

👍

In 9 we find out they were dead the whole time, this was just purgatory.

Oops

TV’s Frink said:

Mike O said:

What does the J in JEDIT signify?

Jedi!

ALLOL, thanks Frink.

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

Yeah, as though there’s not a middle ground? A place where someone can like Rey and Finn without bringing socio-cultural identity politics into it?

Why can’t people just like or dislike the character without turning it into a bigotry (or reverse bigotry) issue?

Reverse bigotry is a problem?

Ok.

It’s a thing. Being judgmental toward people by assuming their actions or feelings are primarily motivated by bigotry is a thing that happens. If it happens, it’s a problem.

And thank you for proving my point by being dismissive of it.

Please also keep this out of my thread.

Nandi said:

DominicCobb said:

Nandi said:

DominicCobb said:

Hello everyone.

I have just coined a new term:

fanbros

for those fanboys who need the male characters in a story to always be unambiguously the most competent ones, no exceptions - although don’t get them wrong, of course they still like women, and of course they still like strong female characters, just not too many of them

I found a new term also:

Pussyboysfanmob

nice to see sjw mob is in full strength again :hi5:

Thanks for confirming that I nailed it, fanbro.

Pleasure is all mine pussyboy 😗

Kindly stay out of my Thread. I will report your next insult.

Valheru_84 said:

Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

YouTube likes and dislikes are an indication of a good movie or a bad movie now? Ok.

Could be an indication of public opinion though, which is what he’s talking about, not the quality of the movie.

Exactly.

TV’s Frink said:

YouTube likes and dislikes are an indication of a good movie or a bad movie now? Ok.

I thought you were a bit more perceptive than this Frink, I’m not saying the likes vs dislikes is an indication of whether the movie is good or bad. I think it is a bad movie regardless, I was simply pointing to evidence that there is a significant number of people who are agreeing with such videos versus the people disliking it and therefore it’s not out of the question that the low Rotten Tomatoes audience score is legitimate.

ray_afraid said:

TV’s Frink said:

YouTube likes and dislikes are an indication of a good movie or a bad movie now? Ok.

Yeah, sheesh. What a weird thing to judge anything by.
And anybody who bothers clicking “dislike” on a YouTube video is either trolling or has psychological issues. I’m always laughing at “12 people actually took the time to say ‘nya!’ at an informative video that is exactly what it says it is.”

I thought better of you than this Ray. I click dislike on many videos that I don’t like or don’t agree with on some level that I feel warrants a dislike. So according to you I have psychological issues or I’m just out for a good trolling? Nice generalisation there mate.

.Val

I think you are forgetting that a lot of people would simply not watch the video. So of course you cannot take the ratio of likes and dislikes to mean anything other than that a small number of people who actually decided to watch the video didn’t like it.

You could also have tried to make the point that a lot of people watched the video, and therefore a lot of people didn’t like the movie, but that’s not the point you’re making.

Fanbros. I like it.

Wrong.

I love it!

32,574

Merry Christmas, and happy holidays, to everyone out there!

Stay safe, treat others with love and respect, and

Whelp, I figure if I make a statement about it , it will help me follow through with it.

I’ll be back after Christmas.

DominicCobb said:

More articles!

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/12/19/yes-rian-johnson-knows-that-people-are-mad-online-about-star-wars

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/12/18/from-vietnam-to-trump-the-last-jedi-as-protest-film

https://www.theringer.com/movies/2017/12/15/16780348/star-wars-last-jedi-kylo-ren-adam-driver-movie-villains

https://filmcrithulk.blog/2017/12/15/the-force-belongs-to-us-the-last-jedis-beautiful-refocusing-of-star-wars/

The last one was the best

Wexter said:

I now wonder whether if they did a movie based on Raiders Of The Lost Ark, except the protagonist uses an umbrella instead of a whip and actually fails to find the Ark, people would still think it is different and unexpected.

And yes, I am aware that this is a huge hyperbole. Just trying to get the point across.

Lol. At least I can see we are both having the same level of difficulty understanding each other’s positions. 😋

DominicCobb said:

Had no idea this site was filled with so many MRA types. What am I even doing here?

Take me with you

The hell is wrong with people… And yes I am talking about you you’re silly sock account. go find something more interesting to do with your free time.

Collipso said:

dahmage said:

DrDre said:

The throne room sequence is an example of this. It uses words allready used by the OT, but changes the order to the point, that it’s like a joke, where we get the punchline without a proper setup.

I don’t follow. are you complaining about the fight, or the interrogation of Rey and death of snoke, or what?

There’s no way you didn’t get a complete déjà vu when Rey and Kylo were in the elevator reciting the same lines Luke and Vader did some 34 years ago.

Edit: I love how you took a carbon copied scene and just pointed out how slightly different it was, and claimed that it was extremely original. “Oh but Snoke interrogated Rey, the Emperor never did that to Luke” oh boy you’re right how could I be so stupid Rian Johnson must be a creative genius!!

I don’t think i am gonna respond to this

DrDre said:

The throne room sequence is an example of this. It uses words allready used by the OT, but changes the order to the point, that it’s like a joke, where we get the punchline without a proper setup.

I don’t follow. are you complaining about the fight, or the interrogation of Rey and death of snoke, or what?

TV’s Frink said:

Anyway Rian is supposedly working on an unconnected trilogy so there’s that.

I am very fascinated to hear what type of complaints people will have about those movies when they come out.

Lust-In-Phaze said:

they face Snoke, who uses force lightening as well as a kyber crystal ring that creates a saber made of lightening

i would rather see one made of darkening.

yhwx said:

TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

[facepalm]

TV’s Frink said:

Wexter said:

And then the rehash kept going

Alright then, I give up. This is madness.

yeah, me too

Wexter said:

TV’s Frink said:

Wexter said:

dahmage said:

Wexter said:

dahmage said:

Wexter said:

dahmage said:

Wexter said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

pleasehello said:

Because everyone on this forum loves RedLetterMedia so much:

Not sure if serious.

My reaction to captainsolo’s review.

Actually, it was very well put.

amazing, every single word you just said is wrong

Cute, but nah.

chyron8472 said:
TLJ dared to be new and unexpected and people hated it.

I reject this notion that TLJ “dared to be new”. It’s pretty frustrating seeing that posted everywhere. It’s doing the same damn thing all over again, just with different characters and in a slightly different order.

and i reject the notion that these movies are the same but just sligtly tweaked. ::shrug::

Is it just a case of there being people who want new films, and people who don’t, or is there really more to it? I am not convinced that it is anything more than the first option (some people just don’t want new films, despite what they say).

Not sure if I understand. Are you saying I (and the minority who feels the same way) just don’t want new Star Wars films? If so, what are you basing this on?

DrDre said:

dahmage said:

Wexter said:

dahmage said:

Wexter said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

pleasehello said:

Because everyone on this forum loves RedLetterMedia so much:

Not sure if serious.

My reaction to captainsolo’s review.

Actually, it was very well put.

amazing, every single word you just said is wrong

Cute, but nah.

chyron8472 said:
TLJ dared to be new and unexpected and people hated it.

I reject this notion that TLJ “dared to be new”. It’s pretty frustrating seeing that posted everywhere. It’s doing the same damn thing all over again, just with different characters and in a slightly different order.

and i reject the notion that these movies are the same but just sligtly tweaked. ::shrug::

Is it just a case of there being people who want new films, and people who don’t, or is there really more to it? I am not convinced that it is anything more than the first option (some people just don’t want new films, despite what they say).

Well, I think it’s actually quite a challenge to find a story beat, that isn’t in some way derived from the OT. It usually either does more or less the same, or the opposite. If it was really a new story, it wouldn’t depend completely on OT events.

Yeah, i am saying it seems like people don’t want new star wars films, based on the fact that i completely fail to understand what people want. You can tell me that it is too derivative, or to similar, or didn’t do this or that. but i really have never understood what you or those other people would actually want to see.

So of course, i know that those who say these things often make claims about what they want. But despite this, i really don’t believe that they actually know what they want. Sure, that is me being a bit judgmental, but that is the truth about how it strikes me.

Once again, I want new Star Wars films. I quite liked TFA and R1 despite their flaws. I am just baffled that where most people - even some of its harshest critics - see originality in TLJ, I see just a slight variation.

So what again didn’t you like about TLJ, other than its supposed lack of new ideas? Because I thought TFA had no new ideas either?

The (not so) slight rehash of TFA was an issue. But back then I truly believed it served a specific purpose. To “begin to make things right”. Reintroduce the familiar and introduce the new, so that from there the story can go where it has never gone before. And then the rehash kept going, while most people applauded for something we’ve never seen before in Star Wars.

But there were things you have never seen before in star wars…

Rey gets a new hand?
Kylo gets all his limbs cut off? BY LUKE???