I also think the humor in TLJ functions as a sort of release valve for audience tension. Without the jokes the film would be exhausting.
yeah, this is true.
Is this movie still really set for release in May? And all we have is a possibly fake promo image? At this point, I’m not sure I’m going to believe this movie is a real thing that exists until the credits roll.
biggest tax write-off ever maybe?
Actually, i keep thinking its going to turn into another december movie, but this close to release date, that seems like a very bad move… We don’t have any SW coming out December 2018 do we?
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if this is true, that is just terrible. what the hell is wrong with people*
*rhetorical question
Another criticism is the tonal problems. The prequels had the same problems with tone. Really not even considering the gravity of certain moments and jumping straight to buffoonery or bathroom jokes. There is a lot of that in TLJ and also talk about how bad the Jedi are.
Honestly this movie felt like an homage to the prequels and was even worse than them. TFA was at least much better.
Just going to go ahead and share something i have been thinking lately. Have you noticed how with every new SW movie there seems to be a small contingent who say “At least X was better” where X is the film out right before this one? its a sliding window. First, TFA was bad, at least the prequels were better. Rogue One was bad, at least TFA was better. TLJ was bad, at least TFA/RO was better…
so there are at least some people who just struggle taking in new films… doesn’t make the new film bad.
That’s a “sheesh” of agreement, yes?
i always agree with you, so yes
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Total dumb fuck.
sheesh.
Oh my goodness, this thread is giving me such a headache right now.
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Warbler, you seem to think that this movie should have been made to please your every wish.
Is it okay to just create threads for the heck of it?
Only if I really like you, or you’re my forum wife.
I like how you had to add the foreign wife is a separate category as if you don’t like them too
Thanks
Is it okay to just create threads for the heck of it?
Is it okay to just create threads for the heck of it?
i often worry about you ender 😃
Yhwx posts “199” in here http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/THE-OFFICIAL-OTCOM-OFF-TOPIC-5000-THREADS-COUNTDOWN-THREAD/id/57809
They were idiots. That’s why they were killed. They were stupid enough to allow themselves to be hunted down and killed by the Empire. And that’s all just relying on information from the OT.
The only thing that the OT says is they were hunted down and killed. It says nothing about them being idiots.
One can infer that they were idiots for not sensing betrayal until it was too late, by using evidence from the OT. Their betrayal happened quickly enough that Anakin had children which Obi-Wan knew about but Vader did not. Obi-Wan and Yoda in ANH and ESB have great power, and yet the Jedi Knights—Obi-Wan and Yoda included—were there to see these dark events unfold but be unable to do anything to stop them, despite their powers of persuasion, perception, distraction, et al. The Jedi Knights are painted in a retrospectively-positive light because Ben Kenobi tells us about them, and he has positive feelings for them. That doesn’t make them actually as wise as he remembers them to be.
this seems like a mighty stretch.
What I find funny is when people say that there’s a feminist agenda mandated by Kathleen Kennedy.
As if JJ and Rian couldn’t possibly be feminists.
Its obvious there is a propaganda or catering to radical feminists. I find it funny that people blindly deny this. I mean have you watched the movie? Swap genders and you have one of the most sexist movies ever made.
Nobody is questioning if JJ and Rian are feminists or they simply do it for money.
Someone mentioned that feminist ideas are a new ground for cash so that could be it also.
I am so confused.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/27/momentum-builds-for-national-popular-vote/
Written by a Republican.
and the first comment seems to have been too? yay for the internet.
but in all seriousness, interesting article. Thanks for sharing. I agree that change seems inevitable at this point, it is just a matter of how far in the future.
They were idiots. That’s why they were killed. They were stupid enough to allow themselves to be hunted down and killed by the Empire. And that’s all just relying on information from the OT.
The only thing that the OT says is they were hunted down and killed. It says nothing about them being idiots.
I was right, the explain-aways are fantastic!
meditate on this, i will
JEDIT: dropped
Doesn’t sound very promising for “Solo” even if only part of this rumour spoken about in the below video is true…
.Val
Serious question - do you just watch YouTube videos for all your information?
So I call you out on one matter and now you’re harassing me in other threads? I said it was a fucking rumour and posted it simply out off interest to see what others might think about it. Other members post shit like this all the time, start harassing them as well otherwise I might start to think you’re singling me out…
There are articles talking about the same rumour. I don’t take anything in these videos or articles as the complete picture on any matter but I thought it might be an interesting thing to mention in this thread since it was the first I’d heard about it:
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/screenrant.com/han-solo-movie-bomb-disney-lucasfilm/amp/
Also I see since you couldn’t incite a reaction from me in the other thread that your wife coincidentally had to have a go at me as well… (I understand ‘Frank your Majesty’ is your wife? If not I will edit my post accordingly)
Good work in this thread though, completely on topic to 😉
.Val
did you get your frustration out by responding to an old post? take it easy. I can tell you read frink’s post as an insult, but I am not convinced it was meant to be.
JEDIT: and oojason already dealt with it, so let it be in the past. (24 hours past)
^Exactly what I was expecting, although I had a small hope you would actually link my edit where I used it.
oh man, sorry but i don’t remember where that is. 😦
I really agree with your dislike of the dark and gritty DCEU, but i am perplexed that you would lump this with those (hyperbole aside). Luke is shown as ‘not perfect’ and struggling with how to exist as a perfect legend, and a flawed human. And i feel like he resolves this by the end of the film, so I didn’t come away feeling that he was flawed when i left the theater.
Sorry, I just realized that I didn’t address your actual point about Luke redeeming himself by the films end. My issue would be his inaction for the 30 years leading up to this film.
JJ / TFA set RJ up with a difficult question to answer: Why would Luke go missing for all of this time? RJ came up with the best answer he felt that he could… that Luke felt compelled to take himself (and the Jedi) out of the equation, leaving the Knights of Ren to run amok.
That just doesn’t ring true to the character for me. Assume for a moment that he DID react in a moment of pure instinct and draw his weapon on this adolescent nephew (not exactly avuncular, but let’s suppose it happened). Would Luke immediately exile himself for that? Would the shame of failure with all of the weight of the galaxy on his shoulders “break” him? RJ would say yes, but I (and at least a very vocal minority) would say no. We already saw Luke deal with the weight of the galaxy on his shoulders and he never gave up on his friends. We saw Luke find out that he was the son of (one of) the biggest bad guys in the galaxy and he didn’t run away into hiding. After getting beaten from one side of Cloud City to another, having his hand lopped off, and being told that he was the heir to a legacy of death and destruction, can anyone imagine an ROTJ where Luke Skywalker has abandoned his friends, leaving Han to be a permanent ice cube and Leia to be Jabba’s own personal concubine? Gritty and realistic. And had ROTJ been made in PTSD aware world of 2017, maybe this is what we would have gotten, but I come to Star Wars for escapism and parables.
I’m with Mark Hamill… “our” Luke would not have acted the way RJ has written him in TLJ. He may have had to regroup, but he would have acted to save Ben and not have abandoned Leia and Han. Only then, AFTER he had righted his wrongs, THEN he might have made the decision to end the Jedi order and exile himself.
So who’s to blame here? Is it JJ for sending Luke off in the first place and creating a mystery box too impossible to answer without destroying a hero? Or RJ for not giving Luke a noble enough reason to abandon his friends and family? Maybe both, I don’t know.
Well, i would counter point that he wasn’t missing for that full 30 years, it really seems to be more like a few years at most, maybe even less? But that still leaves us with a luke who retreated and couldn’t face the world, which is your main point that you don’t like, so i guess your complaint still stands.
I am so frustrated anytime someone says they stand with Mark Hamil in not liking TLJ. i think that is just wrong. Mark only said that he initially disagreed with the direction. which is fine. and obviously you do too. But thats just it. The ST life of Luke was unwritten. We all had ideas of what it could have been. Obviously Mark Hamil did too, and his idea was more idealistic. But there is nothing wrong with the way Rian took this. In my opinion, every single person who ever felt the kind of hidden shame that Luke felt when he secluded himself, was always viewed as perfect by others. This is exactly why those people have ‘hidden shame’. Their is a disconnect in how people view them, and how they view themselves.
Often when people commit suicide, the response from everyone is that “i had no idea”. Hidden shame is a very real thing, and just because someone says “they would NEVER do that” doesn’t mean it is true. I don’t mean to take this is a dark place, but for me, the way the movie dealt with Luke was very powerful.