dahmage

yotsuya said:

DominicCobb said:

Collipso said:

I believe the CGI alien that put coins in BB8 is Mark Hamill. I read that somewhere. Is that right?

That’s speculation, which I doubt because it doesn’t say anything.

I’m pretty sure Hamill voices the first alien we see on Canto Bight (the mustache twirling one on the yacht). But I don’t think they’ve revealed anything officially.

No, I read about it around Christmas, right before I saw the movie the second time. You can hear that the alien is voiced by Hamill.

No I also read something a week ago that said Mark Hamill voice to a little drunk alien putting the coins in bb8. Yhwx can find it.

And to answer Frink for the rest of the casino sequence you can tell bb-8 has extra mass as he’s rolling around and you can hear the coins inside of him.

TV’s Frink said:

Oh hey a video review. Hard pass.

dahmaged if you can understand Phasma and bits 'o Finn complaints, I think you have to add BB-8 in there as well. Specifically, the walker sequence.

Okay yes I should add that.

caught a matinee showing on my day off today. 2D Imax. 4th time. Excellent movie.

I really can’t understand 90% of the criticisms in this thread. there are like 10% of them that i can understand, but the rest?

• I can understand not liking parts of the Canto Bight sequence
• I can understand wanting to know a bit more about snoke (curiosity and all that)
• I can understand being annoyed by Phasma, and bits of Finn as well

not much else though.

chyron8472 said:

dahmage said:

ElectroDroid said:

Interesting fact:

The DJ character was going to be played by Lando Calrissian, but RJ decided that Lando wouldn’t outright betray the heroes.

source?

https://theplaylist.net/star-wars-lando-calrissian-absence-20171219/

"Of course I’d love to see Lando,” Johnson said. “In terms of Lando, I briefly considered — would he work in the Benicio [del Toro] part, [DJ].” If you’ve seen the movie you know DJ is the morally ambiguous hacker/codebreaker who helps and betrays Finn and Rose within the span of a few hours, helping them escape prison on Canto Bight, but then selling them out to the Imperial First Order forces when the first opportunity presents itself.

“I don’t think you would ever buy that Lando would just completely betray the characters like that and have that level of moral ambiguity,” Johnson explained. “Cause we love Lando and you’d come into it with that [expectation]. And also, DJ, the character that they met, for the purposes of Finn’s character, had to be a morally ambiguous character that you’re not sure about, that you’re guessing about, and we already know that we love the character of Lando so it just wouldn’t have played in that part story wise.”

“You have to write organically,” Johnson said. “Otherwise it leads to contrived places. Which is just to say it’s all about the needs of the story and there’s only so much room on the table for… favorite characters to be in the movie.”

thanks. so no, he wasn’t “going to be played by”, more like, there was some thought of trying to make lando fit in. very different levels of ‘almost happened’.

ElectroDroid said:

Interesting fact:

The DJ character was going to be played by Lando Calrissian, but RJ decided that Lando wouldn’t outright betray the heroes.

source?

SilverWook said:

A mind boggling article on recovering a lost tv program from a 16mm reel that’s turned into a mass of goo, and can’t be unspooled.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2017-12-morecambe-wise-video-film-archive-restoration

Insanely awesome

TV’s Frink said:

I have a “Make America 1918 Again” hat.

Do you wear it? Or does it wear you.

TV’s Frink said:

By that definition, we all time travel.

Woah

DominicCobb said:

Greetings from the year 2017.

DominicCobb said:

Greetings from the year 2018.

Freaky time traveling person

Happy New year’s!

DominicCobb said:

dahmage said:

TV’s Frink said:

I like Rogue One better every time I see it.

Yes

No. dahmage remember you are not allowed to disagree with me.

Good point

TV’s Frink said:

I like Rogue One better every time I see it.

Yes

I love our little chats.

Warbler said:

nope.

I don’t know I went back and looked at it and I don’t think you were.

😋

If people are anything like me. And of course they are. They probably just Googled for and used the first good looking image they found.

Porkins4real said:

An actors opinion of their character and the reviews they get is hardly the end all be all.

I actually agree with this. And even though I really like a lot of what Mark Hamill says it’s also why I don’t really care if he actually does feel one way or the other about the Last Jedi.

Warbler said:

There is no evidence that Anakin was using the force in the pod race.

Qui-Gon flat-out states that he does.

Matt.F said:

I notice you didn’t compare Rey with Anakin winning the podrace (no training), or with Luke using the Force to make a shot “that’s one in a million” (no training) as that would rather count against your Mary Sue argument.

Rather you go on about Luke having had a hard life - in fact Rey has had a far harder life than Luke. She raised herself as a scavenger and lived alone in a shanty. Luke had a relatively secure home life and upbringing. When Rey does finally make a connection to a Father figure that she has desperately wanted she sees him killed before her eyes… I’d say that qualifies.

Yes.

for practically every complaint a user makes, there are loads of very plausible explanations. as said ^^^, try to be the kind of person that is open to new things, instead of the kind of person who immediately reacts negatively to new things.

here is how your thinking about that hyperspace maneuver could go:

Sees awesome scene in theater, complete silence, then awesome conclusive boom:

• holy crap that was cool!
• huh, they took out so many freakin ships!
• i wonder what makes this unique, haven’t seen it before, and will we keep seeing it used as a tactic now?
• well, one factor that let this happen was Hux being an idiot and ignoring what the ship was doing, despite his officer brining the turning ship to his attention, maybe most people catch the long buildup that this type of attack would take, and Hux just didn’t.
• it would also be suicide, most people try to avoid that (could use a droid i guess)
• hm, they also had an extremely massive ship that they used as the weapon, i am sure mass has something to do with it. mass times velocity and all that. massive ships are both expensive, and well, large. I can see people not using weapons that are as big as their own ship, seems like that would be impractical.
• yeah, those are all plenty of reasons to just enjoy the most freaking cool thing ever.

or

Sees awesome scene in theater, complete silence, then awesome conclusive boom:

• holy crap that was cool!
• this hasn’t been done before…
• yeah, so many silly things that these movie people never think through, but i know better, i am a fan.
• i will now deride everything else about this movie

Please take my word that i edited that last part several times before posting the first time, and i tried to remove anything inflammatory from it, such as some adjectives i had before.

Creox said:

I just registered so…hi all 😃

Just wanted to jump in to this discussion as I have been following the shitstorm this film has created. I really liked it. I felt like I did when I first watched the OT to a large degree. It has stayed with me for the last week and I’m quite excited about how JJ is going to finish it.

I liked the fact it didn’t follow a well worn path and surprised me. I liked the action and touching moments. I really liked that they made Luke more human and allowed him to redeem himself.

Cheers and kind regards.

Welcome! I liked those things as well.

Disney Ruined Star Wars said:

dahmage said:

• the movie should have told us that

I suppose if a viewer had this criticism, it means they were unsatisfied with the amount of information they received in the movie.

dahmage said:

• no, it shouldn’t tell, it should show

The filmmaker has two ways to convey information:
through exposition
through drama

The audience could be given more information through exposition, but this should be reserved for minor background details. Parts of the story that are extremely important must be portrayed dramatically, or you will get people like me and DrDre who don’t like the movie and aren’t satisfied with what we’ve been presented.

dahmage said:

• well, i didn’t see that, they should have told me

I think this is the same point you made in #1?

lol, of course it is, as i am showing the circular nature of these discussions.

Disney Ruined Star Wars said:

dahmage said:

Disney Ruined Star Wars said:

DrDre said:
A single 30 second scene, which has Luke telling us about a bad vision is not a proper set up. Show not tell still remains the best technique.

This is really true for me. These new films are all tell, tell, tell. Oh look at this flashy thing. I think the prequels were criticized for having so much clutter on the screen visually. These Disney films deserve to be criticized for having too much clutter in the narrative. Pointless characters, pointless subplots. Just enough time to tell you a thing or two and then back to the gimmicks. /mad

So, i know that i am combining complaints from different people. but this is what i am hearing, and it is hard to separate the voices sometimes.

• the movie should have told us that
• no, it shouldn’t tell, it should show
• well, i didn’t see that, they should have told me

In movies you tell by showing.

yeah, that was my second point? are you agreeing with me, or are you making my point?

Disney Ruined Star Wars said:

DrDre said:
A single 30 second scene, which has Luke telling us about a bad vision is not a proper set up. Show not tell still remains the best technique.

This is really true for me. These new films are all tell, tell, tell. Oh look at this flashy thing. I think the prequels were criticized for having so much clutter on the screen visually. These Disney films deserve to be criticized for having too much clutter in the narrative. Pointless characters, pointless subplots. Just enough time to tell you a thing or two and then back to the gimmicks. /mad

So, i know that i am combining complaints from different people. but this is what i am hearing, and it is hard to separate the voices sometimes.

• the movie should have told us that
• no, it shouldn’t tell, it should show
• well, i didn’t see that, they should have told me

Disney Ruined Star Wars said:

oojason said:

Get over yourself.

Anyway…

See Rule 2 - ‘Don’t attack other members personally. When debating, argue the point, not the person’ - as ray_afraid said previously, it is a personal attack on those who do enjoy them.

I suggest you heed the rule.

 

And also, lose the attitude.

but some people can’t let any slight go unanswered, even if they have to do mental gymnastics to make dishonest points.

i now wonder which ones of us you view with this attitude.

DominicCobb said:

Is it even fun? I’ve only ever done driving ranges and mini-golf. Somehow I doubt I’d enjoy spending every weekend golfing.

its better than sitting in an office all day