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#1165282
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Creox said:

KILLOFFPOE said:

yotsuya said:

KILLOFFPOE said:

SilverWook said:

KILLOFFPOE said:

SilverWook said:

Are you sure someone doesn’t have a voodoo doll of you? 😉

That was no skidding turn, that was real spacecraft physics. Babylon 5 had spacecraft turn on an axis to fire like that all the time.

Star Wars doesn’t have “real spacecraft physics”. Star Wars has always been “WWII in Space”. I’ve never seen a P-51 Mustang make a turn like that!

Is there some limit to how big a spaceship can be I’m not aware of? Snoke’s ship didn’t seem that much larger than Vader’s Star Destroyer. Perhaps Snoke was compensating for something…

The Death Star and the Executor are fine because they’re the culmination of the galaxy-ruling Empire’s power. Those ships are what infinite money and a firm grasp on all supply lines and independent contractors gets you. And they’re single ships. They have to construct a new Death Star when they want another.

But the rules of the Disney Trilogy are evidently “bigger ship every movie” despite whatever happened 18 hours ago in TFA. Starkiller was ridiculous. The First Order has infinite money. Infinite crew. Despite supposedly being a “fringe group” attempting to rise to power on the edge of the galaxy.

Remember that the visual dictionary says than Snoke’s Ship has a crew of TWO MILLION the next time a disney fan tries to convince you the First Order is “small” or resource constrained.

Pretty sure P-51’s defy physics in Lucas’ Red Tails movie. Spacecraft don’t make noise in a vacuum either. 😉

I don’t take much stock in what the visual dictionary says. Would you take what they imply about Snoke as gospel?

The two million passes the eye test too just based on how freaking overly huge that ship was.

And again, I don’t care about realistic physics at all. I just want the in-universe abilities to remain constant between movies. The X-Wing powerslide was the new Legolas skateboard.

What is obvious is that Snoke and the First Order are a continuation of the Empire. From the equipment they have and the developments they have made, it seem pretty clear that they have access to the designs of the Empire and the ability to manufacture equipment on the same scale.

Well yes, that is obvious by what transpires in the movie.

But Disney and Disney Apologists are very insistent that the First Order is just a small remnant in the Unknown Regions. Despite them nuking the entire New Republic. Despite building StarKiller base and now Snoke’s ship. Despite everything in the movie telling you that they’re just as big and bad as the Empire. Despite there being only about 12 Resistance members left in the entire galaxy. And about 6 lines of dialog between the two movies to try to explain/hoodwink all of the above.

The world-building in the Disney Trilogy is creatively bankrupt. It’s as big of a problem here as the bad acting/directing were a problem in the Prequels.

The resistance is much bigger than that. The movie focuses on the main characters of that resistance obviously. Who do you think they were trying to get to come help them at the end of the movie?

Sadly that user will never be able to answer you.

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#1164868
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Mrebo said:

dahmage said:

yhwx said:

You guys made me go to Wookieepedia.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Death_Star

With the exception of the crust, the station’s entire interior space was uninhabited, and housed the hypermatter reactor, hyperdrive, sublight engines, and the station’s superweapon.

I can vouch for this I was actually one of the engineers that worked on the Death Star.

Wow, a survivor!

See, it pays to always be late to work. I wasn’t in the office that day.

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#1164856
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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yhwx said:

You guys made me go to Wookieepedia.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Death_Star

With the exception of the crust, the station’s entire interior space was uninhabited, and housed the hypermatter reactor, hyperdrive, sublight engines, and the station’s superweapon.

I can vouch for this I was actually one of the engineers that worked on the Death Star.

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#1164831
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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MusicallyInspired said:

DominicCobb said:

joefavs said:

I am reminded of a frequent point they used to make on the Cracked Podcast about suspension of disbelief. In The Dark Knight Rises, there’s a chase scene where Batman goes into a tunnel in broad daylight and exits at night. This is absolutely a textbook hole in the movie, but when the movie came out almost everyone didn’t notice it until it was pointed out to them. The Cracked folks considered this a mark of effective movie-making rather than an egregious mistake, because audiences were swept up in the movie enough not to notice that flaw in the logic. That’s how I felt about all of these nitpicks about the in-universe rules of space travel in TLJ. I was engaged enough in the story that was in front of me that I was not giving any thought at all to whether or not it was 100% consistent with the last eight films (which, it’s worth noting, are not entirely consistent with each other either). I get that that’s not enough for everyone, but it’s enough for me.

Exactly. A perfect example is the T Rex cage in Jurassic park going from level with the road to a pit. But no one notices or cares, because it works. Well no one used to care, until this current CinemaSins-esque nitpick circle jerk “movie criticism” culture said that all “plot holes” are bad and lazy filmmaking. So apparently Steven fucking Spielberg is a lazy filmmaker.

Holy cow I never noticed that!! I just watched it with my kids last week too. Crazy what gets by you!

isn’t it a different side of the street or something? I know what you are talking about and it often bugged me, but i thought i reviewed it in detail once and it actually made sense… (now i need to pull out the DVD and check again)

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#1164819
Topic
The Last Jedi: The De-Feminized Fanedit
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Ronster said:

Political correctness is a framework of how to “act” (big key word there) or what can be said or what can’t be said and what is safe and won’t offend anyone.

But by stiffling actors so nobody can be offended by anything they could possiblg do i.e. the script is made safe for political corectfulness. The actors look like cardboard wooden and rubbish.

They are actually capable of much more but the material and the framework within which they are confined and boundaries that can not be crossed. The performances are bland and stiffled.

bad scripts can cause what you are talking about.

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#1164721
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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NeverarGreat said:

Mocata said:

Yeah it’s not made with that kind of logic in mind. Like they way the heroes actively waste time and risk their lives shooting at TIE Fighters instead of just jumping to hyperspace.

Also - wasn’t it the Noad System or is that a fresh idea for the mis-heard stuff thread?

Anoat’s not a system, he’s a man.

Wait.

Anoat’s more machine than man now…

Wait.