Does this thread only focus on visual changes or do audio changes count as well??
Also I’m pretty sure the snake reflection is still missing on the Raiders BD.
with incredibly rare screenings of the original 1997 special edition versions of A NEW HOPE, THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and THE RETURN OF THE JEDI.
yawn
BEEN THERE DONE THAT
This book Im reading is very interesting
When you’re young your opinions can be very biased since you’re mind has to mature. Looking back on it, as a child I insisted the original cuts were better however I realize now that that was born out of my nostalgic love for them. Although I didn’t really get into SW until probably the time the SEs came out I had already overly exposed myself to the OUT by the time I owned the SEs on video. In recent years I’ve tried to not let my personal opinion affect why I think the OUT needs saving. No matter what there’s never gonna be a unanimous answer to which is better. However I agree the originals were products of their time and need preserving. History should not be rewritten as it is regardless of how good or bad the originals may be. Movies are like people. Some age well some don’t. But that’s no reason to erase something that’s made a cultural impact.
Thanks again.
The recent edited for tv version airing on AMC may be derived from a new master, as the tennis ball is proper yellow again. They also digitally censored the Room 237 ghost, which was done optically in older tv versions.
Just watched the scene on AMC. You are correct.
I’ll have to double check.
My video again incase anyone missed it. It was a little far down on the previous page.
Very interesting,thanks! Are there any differences with the mono track from the 1995 Signature Collection box set also,compared to the tracks in your video?
That 1991 track with the replacement background music during the Kintner scene sounded sh*t.
The 1995 LD most likely matches the 1997 LD since I have the 1995 VHS and the examples I noted from the LD are present on that VHS.
My video again incase anyone missed it. It was a little far down on the previous page.
And I dont know if its me but it seems the blood of the chum has a bit of a pinkish look to it yet it looks red on the old DVD.
What boggles my mind is how back in 2011 Spielberg said there would be NO more alterations to his films yet they do this. One of the guys in charge of the Jaws restoration said ‘Steven wants to keep it true to the original’. Then how is upscaling a mix that sounds NOTHING like the original keeping true to the original?? Thats like having a pink house which one day gets painted black. Then one day the owner says ‘I want go back to the original’ but instead does pink polka dots. Just puzzles me but thats Hollywood for you. Audio aside, I also noticed two digital alterations as well. First the wire balancing the buoy in Chrissie’s death scene is gone and also a small glint of a sailboat seen on the horizon later in the film was removed.
The 7.1 mix is actually an upscale of the 5.1 mix from the original DVD release and as a result still features most of the new sound FX added back in 2000. Some original sound FX were restored but not much. The only ones Ive noticed were the original whale cry, Brody pumping the rifle before climbing the mast, and the ricochet when the bullet hits the airtank. Many fans were quite pleased the latter was restored and rightly so but personally I dont think it meshes well with the newer sound effects. There were some things about the 7.1 mix that I think improved over the 5.1. Brody’s ‘bigger boat’ line is somewhat louder and not as drowned out by the music as it was on the 5.1. When he says ‘Smile you son of bi***’ its also somewhat louder than on the 5.1 although ‘bi***’ is still obscured by the bullet shot. You can only properly hear that word in the mono mix. Just the same I prefer the mono mix either way although it is a shame that even the version of that track thats in use now has issues.
Heres the video I promised. If it helps perhaps watching with ear phones will make certain things stand out more. The purpose was to point out the differences among the mono mixes yet I used the surround mix for a few examples.
Not gonna lie. I would pay to see that!
In answer to the threads title, I’d say you’re a smartass which can be taken either way. For you, I’d say it’s in between although you are incisive when you wanna be.
I JUST PRETEND TO BE HUMAN
THAT USUALLY ENDS IT
I can barely be human enough to pretend to be human
Ain’t it the truth.
I was going back and forth on YouTube
Can’t win there.
Never. That’s why I try to avoid commenting on SW videos as much as possible. I failed this time though granted this was something I commented on like a month ago and only in the last few days has it been going again.
Well it is pointless to make any such arguments in the first place. This may sound condescending but someone who merely likes the Hayden change (let alone tries to justify it) is not worth my time.
QFT
I was going back and forth on YouTube today with someone about the Hayden change. He says its logical because Anakin didnt know what he looked like when he died because he was scarred and hence his appearing younger made sense. I told him it doesn’t make sense since in most cases ghosts can take whatever form they want but I think in Anakin’s cases he would still project himself as an old man since that’ll likely be more familiar to Luke. He wrote back again that Anakin didnt know what he looked like old and neither did Luke cause Anakin’s scarred. My last post to him was we will agree to disagree. I give myself credit. I was going back and forth with him for a bit and not once did I bring up the nostalgia/OUT vs SE factor into it. Hopefully that conversations done but considering my luck these days probably not.
I always assumed that the suit and Slave 1 were inherited by Boba, but Lucas got the colors wrong because he forgot to watch the original trilogy before filming the prequels.
I used to think perhaps it was Jango’s suit but the colors were starting to fade or something
Granted I don’t particularly agree with any of the changes. I get George’s logic behind changing Boba’s voice in Empire but really is it necessary?? Plus the delivery in my opinion is really bad and not convincing. He speaks too fast and it just sounds off. As far as the 97 SE’s go well if I had to choose any versions of the SE’s I probably would pick those. At least some of the changes added from '04 onward are not there. We still get the original Emperor, Ghost Sebastian, no ‘Weesa Free’, and yes the coloring is somewhat closer to the originals. The fact is EVERY version of the SW films are flawed but then again what movies aren’t?? Am I hyped that they’re showing the SE’s?? Not especially but I’d be off me rocker if I said I expected them to show the old cuts, as much as many of us would like them to have.
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Airplane (PG) had boobs.
So did the sequel
Spaceballs and Big. Both from late '80s, both have the ‘f’ word, both rated PG.
That’s what she said. ba-da-tsss
Can someone quickly direct me to the part where the idea that they’re waiting until next year’s 40th anniversary is closer to make a statement was debunked? Until then, “It’s been four years” carries no weight at all for me.
A journalist for the Wall Street Journal made an article with loads of inaccuracies and said Lucasfilm has no plan to release the OUT any time soon. Master detective work. Completely debunked. Case closed.
It’s on the front page of this thread