crissrudd4554

Wazzles said:

crissrudd4554 said:

The '97 SEs were released on VHS and LD in 1997. As far as I know those same masters were used for the 2000 VHS release.

Fun fact I learned recently: the pink-shift from the 97 LD/VHS release was toned way back for the 2000 VHS/Japanese LD/Malaysian VCD release.

Ahh gotcha. The 2000 box set was the only US VHS set I never owned so I had to guess.

In the meantime, I created a DVD sleeve based off the outer box. Another option I figured I could do is getting a DVD case thats fits three discs and use this. The poster collage is a bit softer looking than I’d like it to be but its not too bad. I adjusted it best I could. It’ll likely look better in a cover. If anyone wants a full sized copy PM me.

I think different masters were used for video releases in other countries but anyways most US video releases, Pan and Scan VHS at least, from 1982-1992 used the same masters. Some had slight variations in audio but visually they were mostly the same. The 1993 LD box set featured the THX remastered prints which were further used for the 1995 VHS/LD releases and later would be known as the GOUT after its release to DVD in 2006. The '97 SEs were released on VHS and LD in 1997. As far as I know those same masters were used for the 2000 VHS release. The 2004 DVDs had new remasters and further changes. The 2011 BDs also had some additional changes and made some corrections to the '04 DVD masters but for the most part the '11 BDs use the same masters as the '04 DVDs.

Jeebus said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Yoda with a lightsaber is hilarious,

Is that a good thing? I don’t think it was supposed to be funny.

Never said it had to be a good thing but it’s enough to make me watch the movie again. 😉

I said the films have flaws but I also said almost every film has flaws. What do you want me to say?? Do I think they are bad in the sense that they are just poorly made and are straight up crap?? No. Do I think the storylines are too clunky and in many ways don’t make sense and think the CGI plays more a role than the actors?? Yes. Here’s my thing. I don’t think they’re bad. I say they’re flawed.

Unfortunately this is a case where many think the flaws play too much a role. I had mentioned before I find the PT slightly harder to follow than the OT so I don’t watch them as obssesively. But there’s still things I like. I loved the light saber duel in TPM, Yoda with a lightsaber is hilarious, Anakin becoming Vader, things that for me are enough to watch them again.

So Frink I don’t know what you want me to say. I also have to remind myself I’m arguing with the guy who didn’t understand at all why I had ROTS fourth on my SW list when it’s apparently so ‘objectively bad’. Maybe I don’t think it’s objectively bad. I’m suppose to think so because you do?? Films are flawed, some more than others but some are also not flawed enough to where I can’t watch them again. In essence I don’t think the PT is bad.

Frink quit being an ass. I’m entitled to my opinion. If you think I’m a clueless idiot for that so be it. I don’t have to say any things bad because YOU want me to.

TV’s Frink said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Are the Prequels bad? No.

Anyone is allowed to like the prequels, doing so is just expressing one’s personal opinion. However, I firmly believe that anyone who doesn’t think they’re objectively poorly executed is either not paying attention or lying to themselves. That makes them bad.

Well it depends on one’s perception of bad. Is it Plan 9 from Outer Space/Jaws 4/RoboCop 3 bad i.e. they are just terrible all around?? No. Is it bad in the sense that there’s a lot over acting or perhaps in some cases underacting, overly clunky dialogue, unstable storylines, and way too much CGI?? Yes. Personally I find the PT harder to follow then the OT which is partly why I don’t watch them as obsessively as the OT. But then again every movie is flawed to a degree. I admit the PT has its weak spots but what I can do about it?? They exist so I accept it.

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4-6 for me will always be THE Star Wars but I refuse to slack on the PT. Do they have flaws?? Sure but they have their moments. Most of the lightsaber duels were intense and it had some great sets. In the end I just say for better or worse they gave us the story that preceded the films that we love. Are the Prequels bad? No. Could they be better?? Yes.

Fang Zei said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Ryan-SWI said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Says you.

Mature.
Fox owns the rights, but it’s not as simple as that, and I have no idea why everyone on these forums seems to think Fox can just jump up and say “Yes! It’s time to distribute the OOT on 4K!” anytime they want.
There’s a lot of legal hoops they need to jump through with Disney and Lucasfilm. The digital releases were missing the 20th Century Fox logo or is everyone forgetting that? Oh right but it’s clearly as simple as Fox just deciding to do whatever they want, they must have decided to omit their logo from the beginning of those releases just because they felt like it.

For the record Fox retains distribution rights for the original Star Wars, it does not own all the prints for the original Star Wars or the right to scan and/or alter anything without the approval of Lucasfilm and by extension, Disney.

Conflicts of interest and contractual legalities are enough to throw a huge wrench in the works for anything like this. Shutting down discussion that doesn’t align with the hivemind doesn’t change that.

I want a 4K release just as much as anyone but expecting one this year or anytime soon is lunacy and I’ll eat my hat if it happens. Feel free to hold me to that.

I never said Fox can just release it when they want. I was just saying ANH will be distributed through into the foreseeable future provided of course Lucasfilm wants them too. Lucasfilm is really the ones in charge of where the movies are going.

As far as the OOT never being released, I don’t think it’ll be this year but in the future who knows?? Studios always want excuses to resell their shit and simply giving out the same SE everytime is gonna get to a point where that’s not enough of a selling point. But if you are positively, absolutely, truly, undoubtedly, with out a doubt, no second thoughts whatsoever, totally convinced it will never happen well more power to you. But let those who are still holding out hope to their business and dreams, as potentially hopeless as they may be.

I would argue it’s already gotten to that point.

They’ve sold us the same discs three times in a row now.

Plus the digital releases

Ryan-SWI said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Says you.

Mature.
Fox owns the rights, but it’s not as simple as that, and I have no idea why everyone on these forums seems to think Fox can just jump up and say “Yes! It’s time to distribute the OOT on 4K!” anytime they want.
There’s a lot of legal hoops they need to jump through with Disney and Lucasfilm. The digital releases were missing the 20th Century Fox logo or is everyone forgetting that? Oh right but it’s clearly as simple as Fox just deciding to do whatever they want, they must have decided to omit their logo from the beginning of those releases just because they felt like it.

For the record Fox retains distribution rights for the original Star Wars, it does not own all the prints for the original Star Wars or the right to scan and/or alter anything without the approval of Lucasfilm and by extension, Disney.

Conflicts of interest and contractual legalities are enough to throw a huge wrench in the works for anything like this. Shutting down discussion that doesn’t align with the hivemind doesn’t change that.

I want a 4K release just as much as anyone but expecting one this year or anytime soon is lunacy and I’ll eat my hat if it happens. Feel free to hold me to that.

I never said Fox can just release it when they want. I was just saying ANH will be distributed through Fox into the foreseeable future provided of course Lucasfilm wants them too. Lucasfilm is really the ones in charge of where the movies are going.

As far as the OOT never being released, I don’t think it’ll be this year but in the future who knows?? Studios always want excuses to resell their shit and simply giving out the same SE everytime is gonna get to a point where that’s not enough of a selling point. But if you are positively, absolutely, truly, undoubtedly, with out a doubt, no second thoughts whatsoever, totally convinced it will never happen well more power to you. But let those who are still holding out hope to their business and dreams, as potentially hopeless as they may be.

TV’s Frink said:

Um…okay.

I just don’t understand why you have to watch everything that has even the barest of connections to Star Wars, lest you lose your fan card or something.

I never said I did. I said if I did see this new parody movie that would be the reason. That doesn’t imply I will see it.

And trust me I don’t watch everything SW related parody or not. Never seen The Clone Wars (film or series), never saw the Holiday Special in its entirety, never saw Rebels, and still haven’t seen Rogue One yet to name a few.

TV’s Frink said:

But only because he’s a Star Wars fan, right?

Frink, unlike a lot of people who get humiliated on this site by you and alike, I ain’t going away.

TV’s Frink said:

Are you going to?

Hmmm depends. How kinky is it??

TV’s Frink said:

crissrudd4554 said:

If I see this I’ll likely see it out of loyalty as a SW fan

This makes no sense to me. Did you see the porn parody?

Never knew there was one.

Ryan-SWI said:

Backtracking a bit here but I don’t know why people keep jumping on the “maybe a 4K release” train, it’s not going to happen this year or any time soon; Disney does not support 4K and they’re not going to suddenly start in the next couple of months with an older Star Wars movie over one of their own animated films or even one of the newer Star Wars films.
As nice as it would be the general consumer has grown up with or gotten used to the SE and a 4K release of the OUT is two niches a billion dollar company is not going to take a gamble on.

Says you. Anyways Fox owns ANH inpertuity (did I say that right??) so if a 4K remaster of that film is done it’ll be distributed by them.

Ehh movie parodies are kinda dead. No doubt the joke of ‘the force’ will be overly used. If I see this I’ll likely see it out of loyalty as a SW fan but not much else. I’d rather have Spaceballs 2 and truthfully it’s kinda pointless for that at this stage.

JawsTDS said:

Call me crazy, but I like the “Nooo!” added in ROTJ.

http://38.media.tumblr.com/a90b591b2f560e4d00f22d17d3057485/tumblr_npxa4ehB7R1s27326o2_r1_540.gif

Slightly off topic but if the National Film Registry included Star Wars among its selected films in 1989, why did Lucasfilm offer the SE print 8 years after the fact??? Was Lucas intending to change the film(s) as early as '89 and wouldn’t submit a print until the film was ‘finished’???

Perhaps to some this is old news but I just noticed something that serves somewhat of a continuity error. During the sequence in the SE of ANH of the Jawas falling off the Ronto in Mos Eisley, if you look closely in the background (you can clearly see it in the original unaltered film) you can see the cantina. The reason I said this serves somewhat of a continuity error is because of the CGI’d Luke speeder added to the shot. However the SE also added a large dome like building in the background among a few other new additions that are not present when they arrive at the cantina even in the SE. So assuming this was meant to be a part of Mos Eisley they had already passed before arriving at the cantina, it also serves a bit of a continuity error in the original as well.

Wazzles said:

Oh! Oh! I have one! The recomped crawl in Star Wars! Why didn’t they just use the 81 crawl? It’s just as good as the 97.

True. I never really understood why the SW logo had to recede faster in the SE. The only thing I do like that the SE crawl did was begin to roll up before the SW logo faded out. At least that way it fits with the other episodes.

Thanks for the post. I might tinker with those. I’m also considering making a simple DVD sleeve modeled after the box set artwork and have all three discs in the one case. I was also checking out ebay.co.uk incase they had any editions. So I got some work to do.

Technically the GOUT was a special feature. Not exactly a special feature but I remember being super psyched that the 2005 DVD release of Jaws was gonna include the original mono so I no longer had to tire out my VHS copy. It was also that release that I got to see for the first time the two hour doc that was originally produced for the LD.

Nada. He didn’t have them.

Thanks. I’ll shoot him a message!