Maybe someday when something you worked hard on and received a lot of recognition for is just suddenly replaced by something else you’ll understand.
Based on his post history, I doubt it.
One can hope right??..Nah who am I kidding.
Maybe someday when something you worked hard on and received a lot of recognition for is just suddenly replaced by something else you’ll understand. I doubt much of that event was spent crapping on Lucas but nonetheless it is a bit bittersweet for them to all be gathered together for one event to celebrate SW40 when much of the work they did isn’t even in the film anymore.
Yep have only heard ‘No blasters’.
My dad was at an estate sale about 5 years and found the a used Faces for 25 cents. He got it for the hell of it since he remembered that was the same edition as my first set. It was actually in pretty good shape considering.
My first Trilogy set was the Faces set.
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(1977-1997)The Empire Strikes Back
(1980-1997)Return of the Jedi
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No, there is another. To Harmy you must go.
Been there.
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The Empire Strikes Back
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Return of the Jedi
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RIP
I know people have already posted this, but it was confirmed in a digital bits interview a few months ago: (https://tr.im/1c09C)
"We’ve essentially confirmed that Disney’s current 4K scan of the film is the most recent revised version (essentially the latest “special edition”), not the original theatrical edition. What’s more, Disney’s director of Library Restoration and Preservation, Theo Gluck, held a special event at Ohio State University’s Wexner Center for the Arts last night, a presentation called Animation Restoration at Walt Disney Studios. Gluck was asked there about Star Wars and reported that the original cut negative for the film currently exists in its “SE” configuration only."
When asked if there were any plans for an OT restoration, the answer was no:
"Disney’s director of Library Restoration and Preservation Theo Gluck, and 20th Century Fox’s Senior VP of Library and Tech Services Shawn Belston have confirmed to the outlet that no such work on a reconstruction has begun."
https://tr.im/1c09CMore recently, about 16 minutes into this interview, Kathleen Kennedy seems to rule it out:
https://omny.fm/shows/steele-wars/ep-131-3-star-wars-celebration-orlando-day-2-the-lSo, it looks like the will just isn’t there.
Most of this has been discussed already. Saying ‘no such work on a reconstruction has begun’ does not confirm there are zero plans for a potential restoration in the future. Also the Kennedy interview has also been brought up. She said she wouldn’t ‘touch those’ which in the context of the question she essentially confirmed there will be no more alterations made to the films. This also does not rule a potential release including both cuts!
Jedit: Cobra Kai basically beat me to this.
I wonder if Disney knows about this.
https://twitter.com/PeleRojo711/status/860922217164570625
And I thought ebay was a wretched hive of scum and villainy!
I was at a Con in Atlantic City last year and a booth there also had it!
Prowse announced a year or so ago he was retiring from public appearances I believe due to health reasons.
Right. We are not giving them directions or writing a contract. We are hoping to raise awareness and increase discussion, and despite low chances of success, hoping that we might get some kind of information. A comment that is less worthless/ambiguous than the recent Kennedy interview.
If, someday, they release a 2k OOT (first of all, I would still be thrilled), it won’t be because, "hah! You ****ers should’ve specified 4K! Gotcha!"
I know people still feel burned about GOUT, but that didn’t happen due to a misunderstanding.I don’t think Lucasfilm will release the theatrical releases on Blue-ray, at least as long as Kennedy is president. Because of her relationship to George Lucas and him appointing her president, she doesn’t want to touch what she sees as “his movies”.
And if it does ever happen, it wont be until 2020, when Disney gets the distribution rights to Episodes 5 & 6.
Getting Star Wars fans talking about it can’t hurt though.
She wouldn’t be doing anything to his movies, though. She would simply be including the original versions alongside his versions. EDIT: crissrudd beat me to it.
Welcome to the forums, btw!
Thanks for the welcome 😃
Lucas has said that, to him, the original releases don’t exist anymore, the current versions are THE movies and he talked how he wants that to be the only version that people see and how eventually all the VHS tapes of the old version will burn out and be thrown away. He underestimates the power of the internet and passionate fans.
So it seems to me like Lucas doesn’t want people watching the theatrical releases, and Kennedy is going to honor his wish.
But Kennedy is 63 years old, and will retire or change jobs within the next decade or two, so the new blood that steps in could have a different stance.
In 2005 he said there would never be an Episode VII!
Im paraphrasing here but I think it was 2008 where he said something to the effect ‘No there won’t be more Star Wars movies, neither by me or anyone else.’ Fast forward to 2012 when he sells Disney ‘Its true I won’t make more but I never said I’m not willing to let someone else do it’.
The fact that Lucas allowed what were originally intended as ‘Limited Editions’ that were supposed to be off the market by the end of 2006 to be repackaged again in 2008 IMO is another example that shows that he only is/was refusing to restore the originals, not release them.
Restoring the originals technically would not be ‘touching’ George’s films as Kennedy seemed to imply because a restored OUT is likely gonna packaged with the SEs anyways.
I’d use ‘release’ and ‘restore’. If we use just ‘release’ they may pull what they did with the GOUT again. If we say just ‘restore’ they may just do what Mike Verta is doing but in their case they have the say if it gets released which in the end they may not. Then again I’d think if they’re willing to spend money to restore it they’d release it yes??
Listing the changes is not necessary. Theyre well aware of the changes and know it’s what drives our desire to see the originals restored. Listing the changes might come off as degrading the SEs which is not the purpose of the message. For once I agree with Alderaan. Mentioning the SEs as less as we can, aside from maybe mentioning that we can respect that they are the canon versions and are how Mr. Lucas intends them to be, is probably a smart option. We just want the originals restored and released regardless of what release method they should choose to do so.
Those are both illegitimate. IIRC, the “Limited Edition” was never sold in a set, and not in skinny packs.
Yes they were, in 2008. I saw them in fye and Best Buy countless times before they were pulled before the BD release. There was a prequel set and an original set, the latter containing repackaged versions of the 2006 DVD sets. That aside the 2006 sets was also available in a tin case at Best Buy when they first came out (I know cause I have it).
Ah, interesting. So that outer box WAS official?
Yep 😃 On a few occasions I was even attempted to get those sets, at least the one for the original trilogy, but passed because there wasn’t anything new I was technically getting
Those are both illegitimate. IIRC, the “Limited Edition” was never sold in a set, and not in skinny packs.
Yes they were, in 2008. I saw them in fye and Best Buy countless times before they were pulled before the BD release. There was a prequel set and an original set, the latter containing repackaged versions of the 2006 DVD sets. That aside the 2006 sets was also available in a tin case at Best Buy when they first came out (I know cause I have it).
Some kind of multi-version package is our best bet because it kills many birds with one stone. There is a ton of precedent that we can point to and say “hey these movies can have it and they aren’t as popular, why not SW?” (Blade Runner, Close Encounters, Exorcist etc.), it doesn’t fly in the face of the filmmakers’ wish by excluding their preferred versions, and it allows them to charge more which they love.
I think using BLADE RUNNER in particular as our gold standard is wise because the theatrical version in that set was easily achieved (and would be even easier for Star Wars now, scanning and cleaning scratches and dirt is cheaper and easier than it was in 2007). And everybody in home video knows Blade Runner, knows it has a cult following, but is less of a big deal than Star Wars. It’s a great shorthand to just say “hey do Blade Runner thing.”All the more reason for them to include the '97 cuts. They could charge even more money for it.
Yes but the more expensive it is the less likely people will buy it.
I personally don’t care if it’s an ultimate box set or a stand-alone or it comes attached to the back of an emu. I just want it.
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The insignia change was done in '04. I don’t particularly see them doing a lot of branching options should they do a release. A release with the 2011 version on disc one and the theatrical on disc two would be fine enough for me though the 1997 version would be nice too but I don’t see it. There was only a few changes made in 2011 that honestly I just find it easier to say it’s the same as 2004 so including a branching option of the 2004 and 2011 versions I don’t think is necessary but that’s just me. I just wanna see the original restored regardless of which SE cut it’s put with.
It’s been pointed out on numerous occasions that it appears that the general public does not care one way or another about the changes. This may be true but I honestly don’t understand how this affects the chances of a future OUT release.
If they don’t care about the changes, then what’s the point of even reverting them? That costs money.
An OUT restoration is gonna sell better than a mere restored version of the same print of the SEs. It’s already a general consensus that people are fine with the BDs as is. If Disney/Lucasfilm intends to keep the market open to those films they’re gonna have to do more than simply restore the same SE.
Here’s something a lot don’t factor out. It’s been pointed out on numerous occasions that it appears that the general public does not care one way or another about the changes. This may be true but I honestly don’t understand how this affects the chances of a future OUT release. If they don’t care they were changed why would they care if they the originals are eventually restored?? They’ll react to it the same way they reacted to the SEs on BD. To them it’s Star Wars. Plus the generations are growing. Just because many fans own SW now doesn’t mean there won’t be a market to another generation in the future. Also I can’t see them selling the same 2K BD versions til the end of time, OUT or not.
That would be catchy but it might downplay the Special Editions too much. We don’t want the message to come off as anti-Special Edition.
I definitely agree it should be less ‘the versions we grew up’ and more ‘the versions that started it all’. And as everyone else has said not confining the issue to just those who saw them in the original theatrical run. There are indeed fans who wish to see the OUT restored that were introduced via television and home video and were not part of that first generation.