crissrudd4554

The second video is incorrect. Whoever uploaded that somehow got part of the remix tacked on the front (unless some editions of the MGM disc incorrectly had that sound effect on the mono track). I’m watching the 2001 MGM DVD right now with the mono and it has the correct sound. Here’s further proof the 2001 DVD has the right door slam. Below is another YouTube video where someone synch’d the mono track to the BD footage. The audio he used is from the MGM DVD since you find the subtle differences I pointed out in my comparison video present in this video. But you can see this video has the correct door slam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoJDHcO5Lb0&t=7s

TylerDurden389 said:

…However. You’re missing the difference in the door clank sound at the police station
when The Terminator walks out (after saying “Ill be back”).

The door clang is the same in both monos.

On a different note I decided to finally make a video comparing the subtle differences between the Mono on the LD and the one that was included on the MGM Special Edition DVD.

https://vimeo.com/246332731

One slight difference I believe is present but didnt note in the video is when the Terminator cocks the 12 gauge in the gun shop. Is it me or does it sound like the cocking sound was double tracked on the MGM mono??

AndrewTheMan said:

crissrudd4554 said:

AndrewTheMan said:

crissrudd4554 said:

I don’t have to. They did.

It just sounds very modern

Pretty much all the new sound effects added to the Terminator surround mix sound very modern and IMO very out of place in a 1980s film. Even ‘80s films with good surround mixes used sound effects that were of their times. Not so much with the Terminator remix.

So afte the pipebomb explotion after kyle places it on the terminators ribs was not changed?

The Endoskeleton exploding from the pipebomb was changed. Could you please elaborate more on what you are trying to attempt here?? Are you more interested in the mono sound effects or the remix?? Do you not have the mono on a DVD to compare?? Not trying to be rude, just a little lost but I’ll help if I can.

AndrewTheMan said:

crissrudd4554 said:

I don’t have to. They did.

It just sounds very modern

Pretty much all the new sound effects added to the Terminator surround mix sound very modern and IMO very out of place in a 1980s film. Even ‘80s films with good surround mixes used sound effects that were of their times. Not so much with the Terminator remix.

I don’t have to. They did.

I don’t believe that sound was changed when the movie was remixed.

AndrewTheMan said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Exactly what about the sounds so you wanna know??

was it the sounds used in the Police Station massecre

Yes the gun does make the same sounds in the motel scene as it did in the police station massacre.

AndrewTheMan said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Exactly what about the sounds so you wanna know??

im sorry if you dont understand me.

No worries.

Exactly what about the sounds so you wanna know??

Anakin Starkiller said:

theMaestro said:

Regarding the argument that the “Shaw ghost never existed”, well…the Hayden ghost never existed in that specific form either. He clearly has both arms intact when one should be missing (and yes, both hands are visible in the wide shot). So if the Hayden ghost is okay from that standpoint, then so is the Shaw ghost. Therefore, the “Shaw ghost never existed” argument is no longer valid.

I’m not saying the Hayden ghost is perfect. It’s just the less wrong option.

Depends on your view of the story.

Anakin Starkiller said:

ray_afraid said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

ray_afraid said:

Best argument for Shaw being there is that WE JUST SAW HIM DIE.

The Shaw we saw die and the one who appears as a ghost look very different.

Once again, if you think his ghost should have been scarred, then Obi-Wan’s ghost should be missing his lower half.
It’s clearly the same man.

The difference is that Obi-Wan wasn’t cut down until he died. Shaw’s ghost is appearing as someone who never existed.

If the other characters are able to recognize him in spite of his form which they clearly do does it matter if it’s a form he was never in while living??? I don’t think so.

JEDIT: I don’t think most viewers have or had difficulty distiguishing who the third spirit was either so I really don’t get what form his spirit takes form compared to the forms he was while alive really has to do with anything. Not trolling, just being honest.

I just say…actually nope. I gave my reason here.

crissrudd4554 said:

Having Hayden appear IMO makes Anakins redemption less meaningful and deceptive. It almost pushes the idea that had he survived we are to think he will just return to the whiny young Jedi he was years ago which I think most of us will agree wouldnt be the case. IMO the redemption is more about a man turning his back on evil for good than simply reverting to who he had been many years before. The spirit Luke sees is the redeemed man who saved his life, not the whiny arrogant Jedi who would ultimately turn his back on good.

ZodaEX said:

crissrudd4554 said:

ZodaEX said:

yotsuya said:

ZodaEX said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Released on laser and VHS only. Harmy has a 720p recreation, I think.

That is not true because they were also released on VCD.

VCD’s are SD only. As far as I know, G’kar and TB (and Revivax for ANH) are only in widescreen SD… 480p, and even then not full DVD quality. Upscaling them doesn’t do much. I’ve tried. You can coax a little more out of them, but not 720p (though presenting in at that resolution does produce the best results, it still isn’t DVD quality).

What does that have to do with my claim that the 97 Special Edition was released on Blu-Ray? Your response has nothing to do with what I said.

You claimed they were on VCD.

Yes I did, and they were released on VCD. I’m correct.

Possessed basically beat me to this but the reason I had quoted you was you asked what the one dudes response had to do with you saying the ‘97 SEs were on BD. That you did and they were not released on BD. I’m correct.

ZodaEX said:

yotsuya said:

ZodaEX said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Released on laser and VHS only. Harmy has a 720p recreation, I think.

That is not true because they were also released on VCD.

VCD’s are SD only. As far as I know, G’kar and TB (and Revivax for ANH) are only in widescreen SD… 480p, and even then not full DVD quality. Upscaling them doesn’t do much. I’ve tried. You can coax a little more out of them, but not 720p (though presenting in at that resolution does produce the best results, it still isn’t DVD quality).

What does that have to do with my claim that the 97 Special Edition was released on Blu-Ray? Your response has nothing to do with what I said.

You claimed they were on VCD.

ray_afraid said:

crissrudd4554 said:

I think someone mentioned this but if we are to believe Force Ghosts can’t take what form they wish then how does Anakin, Shaw or Hayden, appear in Jedi robes he never had??

That’s a problem in the PT, not the OT.
OT can’t be blamed for someone dropping the ball over a decade later.

And, again, to people who say Shaw should still have had scars, ect;
Should Obi-Wan still be cut in half? That’s how he was last time we saw him.
Should Yoda still be sick and coughing? That’s how he was last time we saw him.

True, true

Nevermind. I think my quote was just being used as an example to explain the shape shifting theory.

I think someone mentioned this but if we are to believe Force Ghosts can’t take what form they wish then how does Anakin, Shaw or Hayden, appear in Jedi robes he never had??

DuracellEnergizer said:

But that’s from other movies. Different rules apply.

The sarcasm is strong with this one. 😎

Anakin Starkiller said:

it’s a significantly smaller leap of logic to accept the Shaw ghost as Anakin Skywalker

I don’t see how it makes more sense for him to appear in a form he never had than one he did.

Because in spirit form he can take what form he wants but still appeared as a representation of the person Luke saw behind the mask. What more do you want??

Miracle on 34th Street

All or most of the Shirley Temple films

Planet of the Apes

The OUT needs a release more than an updated SE!

The actual approach to the Death Star IMO looks way more realistic in the original. The CGI version of the SE even with the one pilots head moving looks like it belongs in a Pixar movie.

Sooo Frink has many bubbles???

yhwx said:

crissrudd4554 said:

A mono version was created for theatres that were unable to play the film in stereo.

I don’t think that’s the question he asked.

Well it was the closest I had to an answer.

Here’s a new theory. Perhaps those spirits were only visible to Luke. No one seems to acknowledge them when they appear not even Leia when she comes over to Luke. That said perhaps they appear in a spiritual form that’s only recognizable to Luke. Just because to some of us there may be less logic to have Anakin appear elderly and unscarred doesn’t mean it’s not logical in Luke’s case. Anakin may appear in a form he had not been in his lifetime but Luke still clearly recognizes it as the redeemed man he saw behind the mask.

Having Hayden appear IMO makes Anakins redemption less meaningful and deceptive. It almost pushes the idea that had he survived we are to think he will just return to the whiny young Jedi he was years ago which I think most of us will agree wouldnt be the case. IMO the redemption is more about a man turning his back on evil for good than simply reverting to who he had been many years before. The spirit Luke sees is the redeemed man who saved his life, not the whiny arrogant Jedi who would ultimately turn his back on good.

A mono version was created for theatres that were unable to play the film in stereo.