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SilverWook said:

On a related note, I recently got my hands on a factory sealed remastered VHS circa 2001 with Dolby Surround for next to nothing. Going to capture it on the off chance it’s a different sound mix as opposed to a fold down of the 5.1 mixes that have been on every DVD and Blu Ray release this century.

Yes, I’m obsessed. 😉

The tape has no Macrovision copy protection at all. Yay!

Most if not all Warner Bros. tapes I’ve captured had no Macrovision copy protection.

Its not exactly being stuck in the past when all video releases of the first film up until 2000 bore the Star Wars title. No A New Hope aside from the side views of the 1995 VHS. Not to mention the New Hope title was already in the crawl from 1981 up until now so you can’t throw this into the ‘fans who hate the Special Edition changes’ criteria. You could also say Star Wars: A New Hope since I’ve seen it advertised on a few occasions as such.

joefavs said:

SilverWook said:

Don’t forget Kenner brought back the toys in 1995, a full two years before the SE’s. Sure, Luke and the gang looked like they’d been hanging out on Eternia, but damn it was good to see Star Wars toys on the shelves again!
We also had the stuffed to the gills soundtrack anthology, and the (not so) Definitive Collection Laserdisc box set in 1993. I don’t think there ever was a time that the OT was out of print on home video in the 80’s or 90’s.

That Kenner line is the earliest I was conscious of Star Wars, I think. They’ve still got a ton of them at the comic shop I go to and I buy one every now and then. My favorite one I’ve got is a Sebastian Shaw Anakin Skywalker figure from '99 (I know it’s a little later, but it’s still the Power of the Force line).

I had that Anakin figure. It also came with spirit Yoda and Obi-Wan. There’s a store called Level Up Entertainment in the mall near me that actually sells those 90s SW toys. In a glass case display they also have the old school toys.

This is really a question that’s dependent on what particular crowd is being addressed.

Well I was born in ‘93 so those ‘buffed up’ Kenner toys was actually my intro to Star Wars toy wise, and the Collectors Series 12 inch figures. I also used to like the Star Wars Bend Em figures and I had some of the Micromachine sets. Video wise it was the 1995 Faces set.

pittrek said:

To be the original trilogy is and always will be Star Wars, (The) Empire (Strikes Back) and (The Return of the) Jedi

I don’t recall Return of the Jedi ever being THE Return of the Jedi.

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-vs-A-New-Hope/id/47058

Warbler said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Fuck the assholes on blu-ray.com. Sorry just venting.

what did they do?

Nothing. I just had a run in with some dill hole who hates Americans and thinks his opinions the shit. Nothing new. I run into one on that site every few months.

SilverWook said:

What’s the moderation like over there?

They just delete comments if arguments get too heated or there’s too much bad language and if necessary will ban/suspend people. It’s not like here where the moderators do interact with the posters or at least that’s how I see it.

one69chev said:

I am there for the occasional group buy but not much else. If I may ask, is it the community in general or a particular faction/person?

Mixture of both. Every once in a while I run into some obnoxious asshole on there who thinks he’s the shit though I guess that’s typical of every forum. For some reason they just come off more arrogant there than most other places I comment at and that’s saying something. I’ve ran into a few obnoxious guys around here but mostly I’m use to things around here. I feel tense on that site almost every time I visit it. I don’t feel tense here.

SilverWook said:

If they annoy you that much, avoid the forums and stick to the review section.

I thought they had improved since the old days of browbeating anyone who liked the OOT, or so I’d heard.

I logged out and cleared my history for now. Yeah I’ll probably just stick with the reviews. In my opinion, it’s a bad place to talk about movies or any video format that’s not blu-ray. Yes I know the site is about blu-ray but I like to talk about movies just as much if not more than just the format.

Fuck the assholes on blu-ray.com. Sorry just venting.

AndrewTheMan said:

crissrudd4554 said:

AndrewTheMan said:

crissrudd4554 said:

AndrewTheMan said:

crissrudd4554 said:

I dont know if this has been discussed but there appears to be some slight differences in the mono mix included on the MGM DVDs and the mono mix included on the pre 2001 releases. This is mostly noticeable during the Police station massacre but it occurs in a few other scenes. For the sake of discussion I’ll refer to the mix on the MGM DVD as ‘MGM mono’ and the other mix as ‘standard mono’. Heres what Ive noticed so far.

1. ‘Clinking’ noise when the store clerk pulls the Uzi 9mm off the shelf. This is missing on the standard mono and the 5.1 mix.
2. Some machine gun fire heard in the background is missing during the police station massacre. First is when Traxler locks Sarah in his office. In the standard mono after he says ‘stay here’, we hear ‘ratatatatat tatat’ (closes door). In the MGM mono, we hear ‘stay here’ ‘ratatatatat’ (closes door). No ‘tatat’. Second is after the power is cut and it cuts to the officer in the interrogation room peaking through the blinds of the window and then runs to the door. Machine gun fire in the background when he runs to the door is missing on the MGM mono.
3. When the Terminator cuts the power in the Police station, the sound of the emergency lights coming on is much louder on the MGM mono.
4. A bit hard to notice but it sounds like some noise is missing when Reese rams the officer into the door of the interrogation room before knocking him out. The standard mono and 5.1 sound mostly identical in this instance.
5. ‘Clinking’ noise when it cuts to Sarah crawling underneath Traxler’s desk to hide is present on MGM mono.
6. On the standard mono, the sound of the Terminators motorcycle cuts in about a second before the fadeout to Reese and Sarah’s love scene cuts to the Terminator on the bike. On both the MGM mono and the 5.1 mix, this doesnt happen and the fadeout to the love scene just cuts to the Terminator on the bike.
7. After Sarah goes ‘No! Kyle!’ but before she says ‘Come on!’ when he momentarily collapses after powering up the machines at Cyberdyne, on the MGM mono we can clearly hear a bang at the door (Terminator trying to get in). This is only faintly heard on the standard mono.

this is very useful

For a visual representation please check out the comparison video I shared a few posts ago.
I don’t believe the glass shattering into Cyberdyne was changed.

where the sound effets for the machines in cyberdyne changed too?

Some of them. The compactor is different. You mentioned this mix you’re making combines the mono and surround mix. May I ask how you intend to do this if you don’t have the mono sounds to use?? Me clarifying what was changed and what wasn’t isnt really gonna help.

i use youtube videos. this is my very first film im editing. i dont wish to bother you but some of the videos of the mono sounds are not on youtube, i do not own the mono DVD but i do own the VHS from the 80’s. im not a professional. i hope im not getting you upset.

Perhaps this guy could help.

Dek Rollins said:

You can’t find this or you can’t find the mono? If it’s just the mono, PM me.

Yeah, Star Wars is around and it ain’t leavin. Take it or leave it.

I see it, I see it!

I posted it because I thought it was neat that it was a pre-04 version of the scene. Since this thread is mostly where people come to complain about wanting the OUT even though that wasn’t the threads original purpose I figured this was as good a place as any to share that soooo…yeah. 😛

nickyd47 said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Han Solo IRL said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Interesting that this Tweet uses a pre-2004 version of the binary sunset. Judging from the lighting of the closeup of the two suns this looks like it’s from the ‘97 SE.

https://twitter.com/swtweets/status/947198963618217985

That’s just a fanpage.

And???

It means the Tweet doesn’t matter and has no value in a discussion about Disney and any possible release of Star Wars they may put out

When did I say it did???

Han Solo IRL said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Interesting that this Tweet uses a pre-2004 version of the binary sunset. Judging from the lighting of the closeup of the two suns this looks like it’s from the ‘97 SE.

https://twitter.com/swtweets/status/947198963618217985

That’s just a fanpage.

And???

Interesting that this Tweet uses a pre-2004 version of the binary sunset. Judging from the lighting of the closeup of the two suns this looks like it’s from the ‘97 SE.

https://twitter.com/swtweets/status/947198963618217985

I didn’t hit it that hard. It must have had self destruct.

Jedi Master Skywalker said:

A Man working at Lucasfilm or something to do with them said that they did take print scan from LOC

And why need that if they doing something and cleary doing something

That does not clarify your claims that there was an intended OUT release planned for release prior to TFA. Again sources???

I never got an invite.

Bobson Dugnutt said:

crissrudd4554 said:

My best advice is get any US Region 1 NTSC DVD release. You could probably get one on Amazon for like $10. Doesn’t matter which version or which cover it has. The mono will be there. I don’t have an audio file of the mono for you to use so telling you what’s changed isn’t gonna help if you wish to use the sound effects in your mix.

If I recall correectly, the DVD had compressed audio compared to the laserdisc which was far superior.

So if anyone does have that laserdisc file, please share

I have to compare but it’s possible the Image Entertainment DVD has a mono that was a tad crisper than the LD. Comparing the portions in the comparison video I posted the other week ago to the ripped DVD file I have saved on my computer the ripped file was slightly crisper. However there’s likely compression factors I need to take into consideration so again I gotta look into this.

A few extra scenes were added to TPM as well and I believe some scenes from AOTC we’re rearranged. ROTS was left mostly untouched as far as I know.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Read the last 13 pp

This^