Irrelevant that it would sell better. Doesn’t change the fact that physical media isn’t even a drop in the bucket for Disney.
That too.
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1204960815821946880?s=21
JJ is on our sides
That’s good to hear, and I respect him for being open about his views in this matter, but he sadly also confirms the OOT will not be released for reasons even he doesn’t understand.
As far as he knows.
This is pretty major imo. We have the director of 2/3 of the ST saying on camera in a sit-down interview that he doesn’t understand why the unaltered versions haven’t been restored to modern quality. The most we’d gotten from him prior was casually mentioning he’d shown his kids the original versions in a written interview several years ago (whether this was the GOUT or Harmy is unclear).
Rian hasn’t brought up the subject at all to my knowledge since he was hired by LFL back in 2014, although he did jokingly refer to the SE as “the cartoon version” on twitter the week the bd’s came out back in 2011.
I think, it goes a little bit beyond, as far as he knows. He literally states, he asked about the OOT, and was told a release wasn’t possible. So, I think it’s almost certain the OOT will not be included in the physical release of the 4K versions next year. In this respect it’s also important to note, that the new 4K master was done under the supervision of Lucas before the sale of LFM, making it even less likely the OOT will be restored, as this will be an archive release, not a new restoration by Disney. The release of the OOT is becoming less likely with every year that passes, and with physical media becoming extinct, next year will likely be the last opportunity for such a release, as the SE will forever remain the available versions on streaming services. I just don’t see it happening next year, and so I don’t see it happening at all, sadly.
…but I’d say the physical 4k release will sell in significantly higher numbers if an unaltered restoration is included…
Well OBVIOUSLY but that in no way confirms that’s their intentions. My hope for an OUT restoration has been more or less dead for 2+ years now and I think this J.J. interview is only a further nail in the coffin. Do I want to be wrong? Of course but eventually becoming hopeful only fades into delusion the longer time passes where nothing happens.
I didn’t make the article, just sharing but thank you. Hahaha
New article on the 4K changes of ANH.
https://thedigitalbits.com/featured/articles/sw-new-hope-disneyplus-4k-2019?showall=1
Article on visual changes.
https://thedigitalbits.com/featured/articles/sw-new-hope-disneyplus-4k-2019?showall=1
My prediction God forbid they should change this scene again is Greedo fires and the shot ricochets off the wall and kills him. Han never fires at all.
I know I’ve given views on this topic before but here it goes again. IMO they’re two different scenarios. One makes sense, one partially does.
I understand the Emperor change but my problem with it is the added dialogue and the fact that Ian literally delivers his lines as if he’s reading off cue cards. If it had been done similar to Adywan’s version including the look of the Emperor maybe it would have worked better. I’d still pick the original either way just on principle but anyways.
The Anakin switch is a different story. IMO without throwing the nostalgic angle on it it makes the redemption less meaningful and shows a variation of the character Luke never knew. Showing Shaw shows both a figure Luke will recognize and also represents the redeemed man who turned his back on evil, not the young whiny arrogant Jedi who did the opposite.
Was going to respond, but this is exactly how I feel about it so I’m just gonna quote you.
Fair enough. 😉
I know I’ve given views on this topic before but here it goes again. IMO they’re two different scenarios. One makes sense, one partially does.
I understand the Emperor change but my problem with it is the added dialogue and the fact that Ian literally delivers his lines as if he’s reading off cue cards. If it had been done similar to Adywan’s version including the look of the Emperor maybe it would have worked better. I’d still pick the original either way just on principle but anyways.
The Anakin switch is a different story. IMO without throwing the nostalgic angle on it it makes the redemption less meaningful and shows a variation of the character Luke never knew. Showing Shaw shows both a figure Luke will recognize and also represents the redeemed man who turned his back on evil, not the young whiny arrogant Jedi who did the opposite.
It looks like the disappearing Y Wings are back.
What about the disappearing TIE Fighters in ROTJ???
Or the stunt person’s arm in the Wampa’s suit in ESB??
Or the side of the screen cut off during the TIE Fighter battle in ANH??
I was surprised to see Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore on TCM the other night with it’s vintage 70’s Saul Bass Warner Bros. logo intact. Or does Martin Scorsese have enough clout that they don’t slap a modern logo on his films?
Warner is the worst with that. They seem intent to erase that logo from catalog titles though they ironically slap it on period pieces like Joker and Argo today. Fox and Universal usually don’t disappoint. Even Disney has been preserving the Buena Vista card lately (recently spun the Love Bug and Mary Poppins, both of which look great on blu!)
Warner is definitely the worst. Paramount’s swapped out their logo too a few times as well. One of the reasons I liked the 4K version of Grease was cause it restored the OG Paramount logo. Disney is high on the list as well. Toy Story still isn’t available on BD with the original CG Disney castle and fanfare.
Is this a brand new audio mix as well? It has the Threepio narration over the death star plans and also has “Close the blast doors!”
That’s been in ALL the Special Edition versions!
I noticed that one shot of Obi-Wan’s saber in A New Hope was fixed so that it doesn’t look like a stick anymore.
Is that the shot at the end of the first part of the dual with Vader?? If so that was first corrected in 2004.
No, they’re right, they put a core on the blade in 4K, in 04 they just put the glow layer.
Ahh gotcha.
That’s the fifth version. It’s been changed in '97, '04, '11, and now in '19. Seems like a ~7 year itch for George.
Yep I was just thinking. Doesn’t this make the Greedo scene the only scene in all the Star Wars films that’s been changed with EVERY release since 1997??? No wonder it’s the most infamous change!
I noticed that one shot of Obi-Wan’s saber in A New Hope was fixed so that it doesn’t look like a stick anymore.
Is that the shot at the end of the first part of the dual with Vader?? If so that was first corrected in 2004.
Well we got a new contender! Greedo’s LAST WORD!
Oddly enough this is a movie I prefer open matte.
SomethingStarWarsRelated said:
I’ve often wondered if DVD extras had been a thing back in 95-97, would Lucas have just put the ANH Jabba scene in as a deleted scene extra…? Would he have added ANY of the deleted footage (like the reunion with Biggs on Yavin 4)?
Probably not. It took until the BDs just to get the other deleted scenes.
It’s even worse than using the original poster for each movie
What? That’s what they should do!
That was assuming that the goal was artistic homogeneity. Obviously the original posters would have been superior.
Especially since TFA and TLJ are available with their original posters as covers anyways.
Please keep politics out of this thread. Thanks!
This^^^
To absolutely no one’s surprise, the new releases are just repackages of the existing releases, albeit with new disc and cover art. Some day.
Why wasn’t there a huge announcement of this?
Because they’re just repackaged discs
Agreed. If there was anything of considerable significance with this release there would have been much more hype for them.
Anything else MonkeyLizard10???
Any updates on this? @crissrudd4554
Nope. Nothing yet.
I send my deepest condolences.
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Someone has this preserved on MySpleen.
This wasn’t originally in mono but IMO the surround mix on the BD for NeverEnding Story is a big effed up mess. Not so much sound effects changed or whatever but just over all mixed entirely different than the original. Reverb added or in some cases removed or certain sounds that are very clear in one case but not the other. Examples.
Original
BD
Note there’s reverb in Falkor’s voice in the original.
Original
BD
Way too much reverb added in the BD mix in this scene. If it matters some streaming versions still use the original mix for this film.