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#1325776
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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digitalfreaknyc said:

DominicCobb said:

Apparently the bonus features here clock in the same as the ones included in the digital collection versions. So the only thing new here are the films in 4K (though really even that isn’t new considering they’ve been on Disney+ for months).

Gonna be a no for me.

Same here. First time I’ve ever NOT bought these movies on a new format. What an incredible f*** up.

I said no in 2011 without hesitation, I will say no again in 2020 without hesitation.

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#1325380
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Who knows. My guess is they probably figure there’s more people watching regular television than home video so showing the black bars at the top and bottom might be distracting. It’s no different than the 4:3 days of cropping. Is it necessary now considering the bars are smaller on films like Star Wars with 16:9 TVs? No but again I’m not expert so I’m not sure.

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#1325326
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Seeking Blade Runner (US Broadcast Version) 1986
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benduwan said:

crissrudd4554 said:

benduwan said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Plus nudity, violence and language is reduced.

😮 😒

why would someone watch a cut version?

Sometimes edited for TV versions feature footage not seen in the normal cut even if it is tone down specific content for television broadcasting.

and are there scenes not in the other versions?

I’ve seen edited for TV versions include deleted scenes for timing. Jaws has aired with some additional scenes. A couple years ago I even combined the DVD of The Little Rascals with a TV airing I captured since the TV airing featured deleted scenes not available on video.

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Little-Rascals-1994-TV-Version-with-Deleted-Scenes/id/49212

As for the Blade Runner TV version I can’t comment on it since I haven’t seen it which is likely the reason the original poster is seeking it out as well.

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#1325287
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Seeking Blade Runner (US Broadcast Version) 1986
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benduwan said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Plus nudity, violence and language is reduced.

😮 😒

why would someone watch a cut version?

Historical purposes?? Sometimes edited for TV versions feature footage not seen in the normal cut even if it is tone down specific content for television broadcasting. The recent RoboCop BD by Arrow includes the Directors, Theatrical, and TV cuts. Why the latter?? Who knows but it’s interesting to watch next to the other ‘official’ versions.

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#1322515
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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J0E said:

crissrudd4554 said:

KISS are on their supposed tour with two imposters. Still not going. If this is the final SW video release, that’s nice or sad or whatever. However if you want my money you have to include the OUT.

Oh dude you hit the nail on the head. At least in the 80’s when Kiss got new members, they gave them new makeup/took it off. At least in '97 they were called the Special Editions and at the time it looked like the old versions would be temporarily out of print until the next major format to drive demand.

Then we reached a point where this is how it’s always been. Eric Singer has always been Peter Criss. Tommy Thayer has always been Ace Frehley.

We had the Reunion album Psycho Circus (which is analogous to the GOUT disc), but all the material was written by Paul and Gene. The material Ace and Peter wrote was all thrown out, and Paul and Gene let them play on one song to placate them.

Then you had the Farewell tour, that was immediately followed up by a World Tour. Then Ace and Peter got upset justifiably so and left again. Kiss has been touring posing Eric and Tommy as Ace and Peter ever since.

It feels doubly scummy as far as Eric Singer goes, because he was brought in on the Revenge album to play the material that was already written by Eric Carr. That whole album was a tribute to Eric Carr and it makes me feel dirty every time I listen to it because it has Eric Singer on it. And he’s a Peter imposter (Yes I wrote all that for that innuendo).

Heyy it’s a perfect analogy so what can you say?? 😉

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#1322262
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Films re-released with alterations
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SpacemanDoug said:

I know Grease has been added already, but there is more to it. The 20th anniversary 1998 5.1 remix of Grease had all of the songs remixed (like adding reverb and background vocals to a couple of the songs) and added a bunch of foley sound effects. This was the only mix available for 20 years. The 40th anniversary 5.1 remix restores the original sound mix and sounds far better than the previous 5.1 mix.

That’s been talked about a bit here.

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Audio-Preservation-Thread/id/15892

This thread refers mainly to visuals.

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#1321199
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Mono soundtracks that were butchered with 5.1 remixes in later releases
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SpacemanDoug said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Think I’ve shared this before. Not a comparison of a surround mix to mono but IMO the mono track on the BD of Frankenstein is very flat.

https://vimeo.com/295910511

Ah yes I’m quite familiar with this one, I own the 1999 DVD myself and despite being mastered too quiet it sounds far better and more lifelike than the blu-ray

Yep I have that DVD as well and definitely agree with you.

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#1318945
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Concerning the Millennium Falcon’s Targeting Computer
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CatBus said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Benjjedi said:

hairy_hen said:

Those beeping sounds are in the mono mix, but were never used in any of the others until the special edition came along.

It’s also worth noting that the beeps are mixed at a relatively low volume in the mono version, but are much louder in the SE, which is completely typical of all the audio changes made to the soundtracks from 1997 on (everything is loud and in your face rather than leaving any room for subtlety).

Really? Were they not even present in any pre-Special Edition VHS releases?

None of the pre-1997 video releases used the mono mix.

Some content from the mono mix was mixed into the 85 and 93 audio. For example, Threepio’s tractor beam lines and such. But apparently they didn’t do the targeting computer noises until 97.

Yes I know that. I just meant the unaltered mono. I think some sounds from the mono may have been integrated in the 1993 mix as well but I don’t think that included the targeting computer sounds.

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#1318903
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The Big List of Changes to the Star Wars films
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boffy said:

I’m reading Anthony Daniels’ book I Am C-3PO, and I’ve just found a slightly different take on the story of one of the first film’s audio differences.

IIRC, the received wisdom is that his whole “tractor beam” line was recorded in a broom cupboard in the UK, and flown over during the mixing process; this is why it was in the mono mix, but not the 1977 stereo/surround one.

Daniels’ version of the story is slightly different.

At some point during editing, they phoned me. […] Would I please go to a studio in London and record an extra line? Of course. What was it?

“That’s holding the ship here.”
“Is that it?”
“Yes. We forgot to say what a tractor beam is actually for.”
Ah
“The tractor beam, that is holding the ship here, is coupled to the main reactor is seven locations.”

It was one of the quickest jobs ever but it worked, once they plopped in the new words. The audience would never know the line was compiled over five thousand miles, and many weeks, apart.

I don’t believe I’ve heard any mix which includes “that is holding the ship here”, though I only have the various 1977 mixes to hand this week. Is it in any other mix, or is there an equivalent in any of the foreign language dubs?

I’m not saying the usual version of the story is wrong. Indeed, it seems to fit the facts better than this new one; Mr. Daniels can be forgiven for mis-remembering something which happened over 40 years ago. I just thought another side of an oft-recounted tale may be of interest to some of you.

Every mix begins with him saying R2 “says he’s found the main control to the power beam that’s holding the ship here. He’ll try to make the precise location appear on the monitor”. The remaining dialogue that follows this is what was added later, this line specifically. “The tractor beam is coupled to the main reactor in several locations. A power loss at one of the terminals will allow the ship to leave.”

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#1318901
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Concerning the Millennium Falcon’s Targeting Computer
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Benjjedi said:

hairy_hen said:

Those beeping sounds are in the mono mix, but were never used in any of the others until the special edition came along.

It’s also worth noting that the beeps are mixed at a relatively low volume in the mono version, but are much louder in the SE, which is completely typical of all the audio changes made to the soundtracks from 1997 on (everything is loud and in your face rather than leaving any room for subtlety).

Really? Were they not even present in any pre-Special Edition VHS releases?

None of the pre-1997 video releases used the mono mix.

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#1318568
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Logo Preservation
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The other day I caught Lethal Weapon 4 on TV and of course the opening logo is plastered but worse! Here’s the original which appears on the DVD releases. The logo segues via explosion to the opening credits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09MXLo3eS-o

On TV the other day, the film opened with the current WB logo (basically the same logo here but without the 75 years tie in and I don’t think the music was there either) which fades to black and then it straight cuts back to the old logo at the exact moment the explosion starts! It looks horrible and is unnecessary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd1BciCEZTI

I don’t own the BD but considering that was how it appeared on TV and someone in the comment section of the first video mentioned seeing the plastered version on Netflix and the second vid is apparently from Roku I assume the BD has the plastered version.

Edit: someone in the comment section of the second video mentioned that the BD has the original logo so that’s good.

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#1317969
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Mocata said:

I’d be far more accepting if there was any honesty involved. Something like Blade Runner, The Lord of the Rings or Amadeus is labelled clearly so you know what’s in the box. Even if certain versions are rarely released. With these it’s still shown as 1977 instead of whatever Special Edition they’re now selling. Those two words don’t appear anywhere.

Nor have they for over 20 years.

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#1317748
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Concerning the Millennium Falcon’s Targeting Computer
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ray_afraid said:

CatBus said:

When the Star Wars audio mix was revised for home video starting in 85, they brought some of the mono mix effects into the stereo/surround tracks. I’m not sure when they incorporated the targeting computer noises, but it was in one of those later revisions.

Would this stereo mix have been attached to the 1980 A New Hope release, or did it not appear until home video?
It’s another reason I’d love to have A New Hope Depecialized.

As he mentioned the remix was done in ‘85.

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#1316675
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How many times have you bought the movies?
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benduwan said:

yotsuya said:

I don’t see that I’ve commented on this before.

Ep VII Blu-ray/DVD/Digital
Ep VIII blu-ray/DVD/Digital
Rogue One Blu-ray/DVD/Digital
Solo Blu-Ray/DVD/Digital

And I expect
Ep IX Blu-ray/DVD/Digital
18 disc Blu-ray saga set

why do you buy this 3 times as bluray,dvd and download??
weird…

Because he likely bought the sets that provide those three options.

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#1316262
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Why don't people hate the Palpatine re-casting in ESB yet despise Force ghost Anakin's re-casting in RotJ?
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screams in the void said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

If you’re gonna argue that, I found it extremely jarring as a child the first time I saw the pre-SE version of RotJ with some weird old guy in the place of Anakin.

^ and I am going to guess here that you only saw that pre-SE version after you saw the SE version .

That can be the only explanation. I saw the Shaw scene zillions of time before ‘04 and never had trouble distinguishing who the third Force ghost was. Who else was it supposed to be???