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#1362253
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George Lucas: Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist...
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Given I got the Faces trilogy when I was probably 4 I don’t think much of what Maltin and Lucas were discussing sank in with me at the time. It actually probably wasn’t even until the prequel era that some of what they were discussing I began to pay attention too and I suppose it was around that time I started noticing the preview discussion of the PT.

Most of it is at the end of the ROTJ interview. Lucas mentions that he’s working on them all at once and that the first would be out in ‘98 or ‘99. Maltin concludes with something like “so in the new millennium we can look forward to the prequel trilogy??” to which George says “definitely”.

Technically George’s message on the outer box of the Faces set makes a subtle reference to the PT coming up when he says something “I hope you all will continue to not only enjoy this Trilogy but the upcoming events in the continually unfolding Star Wars universe” or something to that effect.

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#1361343
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Info Wanted: Raiders of the Lost Ark - is there a version with original color timing?
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SpacemanDoug said:
I know the BD has some small audio alterations too but idk what

Dek Rollins said:
I know captainsolo has said in the past that the BD 5.1 mix is very revisionist, but I personally don’t know any specifics about it.

This scene’s a good example. There’s wayyyy more richochets in the BD mix.

2003 mix

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm6tcQUl_jI

2012 mix

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ImY6EOvzFpg

Yes I know the first video is in a different pitch. It was the only video I could find off hand of the 2003 mix (the pitch is correct on DVD).

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#1357344
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Is it Lucas, or Fox, who has prevented the restored OOT release?
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Nien Nunb said:

Fated-Dualist said:

'Mr. Lucas said that to release the original versions of these films on Blu-ray was “kind of an oxymoron because the quality of the original is not very good.”

“You have to go through and do a whole restoration on it, and you have to do that digitally,” he added. “It’s a very, very expensive process to do it. So when we did the transfer to digital, we only transferred really the upgraded version.”
 

I still find it hard to imagine George saying all this with a straight face. Even he has be aware of how stupid this sounds. Despite no longer being in charge of Lucasfilm, I’m sure by now he also has to be at least somewhat aware of recent fan preservation efforts and the significant advancements that have been made since those statements, which have completely disproven his argument.

Keep in mind we are talking about the guy who in 2012 was insistent that Greedo “always” shot first with the confusion being the original had the sequence in closeups. Sure George.

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#1354786
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Jaws (1975) Original Mono audio
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Just skimmed through parts of the UHD mono track and yeah like I figured its basically the same mono from the regular BD. Sound effects when they cut open the tiger shark are still out of sync, engine explosions still in the wrong pitch, Brody’s scream is still low in the mix. One thing I did notice which I also talked about in my video is the mono on the regular BD has an odd drop in volume during one of the shots of the shark ripping up the cage. It’s a little hard to tell for sure listening to it on the computer but this may be gone the mono on the UHD. Haven’t gotten to hearing the surround track yet.

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#1353098
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Jaws (1975) Original Mono audio
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HDMan72 said:

Goodsuc81 said:

Are the sound effects in the tiger shark scene still out of sync?

To me I couldn’t really tell if they were out of sync. The fish seemed to sound as they landed. The can and license plate sounded spot on. I don’t use any delay settings for HDMI.

It’s a little hard to tell just from watching (unless you’ve watched it with the mono many times like I have hahaha). But given you said the explosion sounds high pitched I imagine the sound effects in the autopsy scene are probably still out of sync. Bummerz but then again not surprised.

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#1352281
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Jaws (1975) Original Mono audio
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HDMan72 said:

crissrudd4554 said:

HDMan72 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

does anyone know how the mono sounds on the 4K version?

I watched mine the other night and the mono sounded excellent on the 4K UHD. It reminded me of the mono track from the Signature Collection laserdisc.

What about the examples in this video?? How did they sound on the UHD??

https://vimeo.com/166704816

Quick comparisons as my computer is in a different room than my home theater. I can not hear the ‘Cassidy burp’ I can hear Brody’s yeah" it’s very subtle. Good Vimeo video on the comparisons.

Thank you. Is the engine explosion still in the wrong pitch?? No rush.

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#1351912
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Info: Mono soundtracks that were butchered with 5.1 remixes in later releases
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crissrudd4554 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Blu Ray 1977 said:

crissrudd4554 said:

I believe Fast Times at Ridgemont High had some changes as well. Some home video releases had different songs due to licensing but I think this was resolved by the time the film made it to DVD. The surround mix first introduced on the 2005 DVD had some minor effects changes I believe. That DVD as well as the BD does not have the mono. The original DVD and the High School Reunion DVD as far as I know has the correct original mono!

It’s me Pete 1972! You remember when we commented on the Jaws videos? Looks like another film is getting the audio revisionism treatment. According to Digital Bits and some fans, Batman 89’s Dolby Atmos mix has a lot of changes with the sound effects. Gun shots have been altered and the starting up of the Batmobile is changed too. Also Digital Bits said that the Dolby 5.1 on the 4K is a downmix and not the 5.1 that was on the previous Blu Ray.

Figures. (Rolls eyes) Apparently the 4K release of Blade Runner also has audio revisions though I’m not sure off hand what they are.

And yes I do remember you. Nice to see ya again!

actually the audio revisions on Blade Runner date back to when the 2007 Blu-ray was released, and the revisions are only on the final cut, the other cuts have the original sound effects

No I’ve seen comments on bluray.com that apparently more revisions were made to the Final Cut mix for the UHD release.

Comparisons for Blade Runner.

US Theatrical/International Theatrical/Director’s Cut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaR5wVL9x2I

Final Cut (2007 mix)

https://youtu.be/LwDdP88Dr54

Final Cut (2017 mix)

https://youtu.be/P1jXmJmmj3o

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#1344650
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I'll never understand the attitude of people who oppose the release of the unaltered original trilogy.
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Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

The single worst argument I ever heard was - and I kid you not - … “haha, those old 1977 special effects were so bad, just look at that scene of Han meeting Jabba.”

I honestly don’t know what’s worse. Knowing there are people in the world who would make that argument or knowing that there people in the world who would believe that argument!

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#1341661
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

adywan said:

benduwan said:

at D+ is empire of dreams available.
is this in real hd or upscaled?

Parts are upscale , parts in HD. This is the new version that was done a while back for HDTV. They asked Lucasfilm if they could have the footage they used in HD and they refused, so those parts had to be upscaled. Most of the “talking head” footage is HD though.

Is this because they didn’t want to share HD of unaltered shots?

Most likely.

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#1341123
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I'll never understand the attitude of people who oppose the release of the unaltered original trilogy.
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We know the interview you are referring to and technically the subject of the OUT wasn’t addressed. The interviewer asked about George changing his movies and said something like “you’re not gonna make more changes are you??” KK laughed and said “those will always be his”. I mean people can interpret this any way they choose but technically the future of the OUT was never addressed.

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#1341089
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I'll never understand the attitude of people who oppose the release of the unaltered original trilogy.
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I remember a comment from a few years ago on a video about DeSpecialized and the comment was basically along the lines of “I don’t understand why you would want to undo the new effects and reinsert those older cheesier effects” or whatever.
Just a few months ago a guy on Blu-ray.com was talking how the updated versions are better than with the outdated effects or whatever. I had to reiterate that he was stating an opinion. His response was “It’s not an opinion though. The original versions have dated special effects and are dated over all, the new versions look far superior, even though they have some admittedly already dated CGI. I do wish Lucas would have waited until CGI was as good as it is now“. I once again reiterated to him that this was his opinion, not fact.

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#1337788
Topic
Thoughts on the color schemes for the widescreen and pan & scan packaging for pre-Blu-Ray-release DVD packaging
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Mocata said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Mocata said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Mocata said:

Confusingly I think the gold and silver 2004 boxes were both widescreen here, but one was a retailer exclusive.

Incorrect.

In what way?

In regards to the 2004 sets, Gold was Fullscreen and Silver was widescreen regardless of retailer.

Incorrect. 😉

That had to be the retailer exclusive then because most places I saw that carried those sets had gold for FS and silver for WS (just like the ‘97 VHS’).