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#1421164
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The Rise of Skywalker Expanded Edition by Rae Carson: The Faraday Edit (WIP)
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Well, if it ain’t broke! (Edit: That sounds kind of dismissive now I read it back! I used what you wrote with minimal changes because I liked the way you phrased it. Especially the line about becoming a Dark Sider before the end of the journey.)

3PO’s infodump was in the original text, so that was a great opportunity to add the extra ideas about the forest moon. I just changed the info he subsequently dumps to yours instead.

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#1421146
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Jar Jar Bricks said:

Fine, I agree Faraday. Wasn’t a big deal to me in the first place.

I said this before, but I really dislike the idea of removing anything else from the movie at this point. Much more interested in additions/changes.

I strongly agree with you on this. I think what’s currently in place is good, and it’s now a case of finding ways to strengthen and support it.

Other than those ridiculous little pointy bits on Rey’s new lightsaber which only annoy me, those have got to go

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#1421144
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Hal 9000 said:

I will say that it seems the way 3PO words things means nothing of minute importance gets lost by removing those lines. My concern was that it could lead to the audience wondering why he is able to translate the inscription by memory. However, he clearly implies that he could translate it were it not for the imposed limit. And later he says that the inscription “lives… in my memory”.

That said, I don’t really think it’s a necessary change, though it does trim the overt silliness of the moment. I dunno, might be worthwhile to just make the harmless trim.

As discussed earlier, at this point we’re all scrutinising every line far beyond the film’s writers ever did. It’s important not to miss the forest for the trees. Star Wars is quite silly, and even in the OT, many important moments had humour or weirdness. Everyone’s levels for this are going to be different, but for me personally, this is the right kind of silliness in the right place. It’s not a staggering emotional beat that the whole narrative rests on, so at least for me, it can afford to have some levity. This is always going to be subjective of course, but I personally think changing it just to change it might be harmless, but it also removes a tiny bit of the movie’s charm.

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#1421097
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The Rise of Skywalker Expanded Edition by Rae Carson: The Faraday Edit (WIP)
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Jar Jar Bricks said:

CaptainFaraday said:

Without Rose onboard, nobody had been able to fix the landing gear by the time they arrived. Which was why, when they all exited the Falcon bruised and shell-shocked, it was to the sight of a massive scar in the damp ground, running behind them in a straight line as far as the eye could see.

Dang what is up with Rae Carson and mentioning Rose at every opportunity lmao. I noticed this while reading the first chapters of the original. I swear she wanted to have her come along on the journey or something but obviously couldn’t do that because it’s not canon.

EDIT: Oh, and btw I like what you have going here. It’s definitely making me consider whether I would prefer what you have or having it be the forest moon of Endor.

I think that’s basically it, yeah. She’s tried to give Rose more of a presence in the story, but as a result, it just sort of highlights her absence. I’ve cut most of them, but this one felt organic to me, and works for the humour of revealing they crashed the Falcon.

And thanks! I think the forest moon thing works either way, it just comes down to personal preference.

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#1421087
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The Rise of Skywalker Expanded Edition by Rae Carson: The Faraday Edit (WIP)
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Here’s the start of Chapter 14. There’s a lot of RogueLeader’s stuff in here:

Kef Bir was a moon of Endor, but to Rey, it seemed like a whole world. Flying into the bumpy atmosphere had revealed vast seas interrupted by tentative patches of land, covered mostly with grass. Shrubbery was scarce, settlements nonexistent.
C-3PO had informed them that Kef Bir was known as the Tempest Moon, due to its violent winds and dangerous oceans. This powerful weather led to the moon being a significantly less preferable place to visit compared to its forest counterpart, dubbed the Sanctuary Moon by early explorers who saw it as a vivid, if dangerous, paradise.
Rey hadn’t been to the Sanctuary Moon, but she was willing to bet that anywhere seemed like paradise compared to Kef Bir. Its high winds ripped at the Falcon as they tried to make their landing approach, making the ship swerve and slew wildly. There was a worrying bump as they hit a patch of turbulence that might as well have been an airborne rock.
Without Rose onboard, nobody had been able to fix the landing gear by the time they arrived. Which was why, when they all exited the Falcon bruised and shell-shocked, it was to the sight of a massive scar in the damp ground, running behind them in a straight line as far as the eye could see.
The ship’s fuselage was half buried in mud, and they’d had to exit out of the top hatch, but the Falcon remained almost flightworthy. With a few repairs and a little luck they’d be able to take off.
After Rey had gotten what she’d come for.
“Well, at least it’s nice out,” said Poe, blinking as he looked around, and he was only being half sarcastic.
They’d had to make their approach low and at an angle, and had escaped the worst of the wind by landing in a valley between two large hills. The air here smelled of salt and sun-kissed grass. Water prickled Rey’s skin, as spray kicked up from the ocean and got carried along on the breeze. The sky roiled with grey clouds, but everything remained bright, for the gas giant Endor reflected light in addition to the sun. Apart from the inclement weather, the moon was quite striking in its own way.
Poe and Finn stood, arms crossed, debating how best to repair the Falcon, as Rey trudged away from them across the field. When she was far enough away that she could no longer hear them, she withdrew the Sith Dagger from her satchel, and gripping it painfully tight, closed her eyes.
It was hardly necessary. She’d heard the whispers throughout their entire landing, getting louder and more excited. She could feel them goading her onwards, offering her what she needed to know, if only she would let them. She imagined what it would have been like to try and follow the Dagger without C-3PO’s translation to get them this far – the Sith had designed it so only those with the Dark Side could find the Wayfinder. And if they weren’t on the Dark Side before, they could be well along their way by the time they found it.
She felt a pang of guilt – her friend had sacrificed himself because she was too weak to resist it. But it was easy to make the guilt go away. He had wanted to do it. A Jedi was far more useful to the Resistance than a droid. The whispers soothed her, and opened up further; the better she felt about what C-3PO had done, the clearer their directions.
She slid the Dagger back into her satchel, less keen to let go of it this time.
“This way!” she called to the others.`

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#1421065
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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I agree, that’s looking pretty good already, and some smoke would really help. Even just making the stormtroopers behind Finn slightly more out-of-focus might be enough for those shots.

There’s other shots in the scene, and I think at the very least the shot of Phasma being blasted off the platform by Finn would need to be done as well for it to work. The big issue there is the roof, but I reckon that could be taken from any low-angle shot in the scene that’s in the theatrical release.

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#1421059
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I really like the 3PO translation stuff just the way it is. I explained my thoughts in another thread, so I’ll just copypaste them here:

I personally like C-3PO knowing exactly what it says but being unable to tell them. I find it funny in the right way - it brings them tantalisingly close to their goal, which still remains maddeningly just out of reach. I really feel their frustration in that moment, but it’s tempered with the dash of humour which keeps it enjoyable.
For me personally, it feels just like the kind of weirdly slightly-self-contradicting idea that the OT, in particular ANH, threw out all the time.

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#1421055
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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I know that very early on into assessing potential edit ideas, this deleted scene was written off as unsalvageable due to the VFX involved. But that was in 2017, and I’ve seen people here pull off way more insane and impressive VFX shots and fixes in recent times for TROS.

This is such a great scene - a great send off to Phasma, as well as a really nice Show-Don’t-Tell climax to Finn’s arc - that there must be something we can do with this. Looking at it now, it doesn’t look as daunting as it may have done a few years ago, surely? There’s a few explosions to fix up, a few odd looking chroma-keyed edges to smooth out, and maybe some backgrounds to stitch together from other background shots in the hangar scene. That’s got to be doable, right?

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#1420982
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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The actual words you’re saying sound good - is it just made-up gibberish, or an actual real-world language you’re speaking?

RogueLeader and I have been talking about some stuff for the puppet show, including some dialogue/voiceover ideas. I might let him explain it though since he’s doing all the heavy lifting for the puppet show footage, so I don’t want to grab control of the conversation surrounding it.

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#1420826
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Worst Edit Ideas
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Neerb said:

Eyepainter said:

Add Palpatine’s “Power! Unlimited Power!” line from ROTS to the end of ROTJ when he’s zapping Luke.

Add it to every single time he uses lightning in the saga. Vs Windu, vs Yoda, vs Luke, vs the Resistance fleet, vs Rey. Oh, and when his hands crackle in the opening of TROS, he whispers it in hushed tones.

Then do the same for Rey when she accidentally uses lightning in TROS, by chopping up Daisy Ridley voice clips from various sources. Rey will be confused why she instinctively said that phrase in that way, but keen-minded audience members who are familiar with the previous movies will recognize it as a subtle clue to the later reveal.

Whenever he gets stopped from using it, eg Yoda catching the lightning, or his own death, have him yell “Limited power!” by clipping the line and dubbing it in.

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#1420825
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I like whichever version has Poe’s line dubbed in, asking if this masked fellow is Resistance as soon as they’re in private.

BrotherOfSasquatch said:

Hal 9000 said:

  • Pasaana puppet show with Luke being a legend (snooker and/or RogueLeader filming and compositing elements - will also need a vocal dub to replace the one or two lines with something about Skywalker)

You know, seeing as I kind of came into this whole thing late and I missed the boat on the whole “For Skywalker!” inclusion, I’d love to maybe take a shot at doing the voice for this scene.

However, I’m not a voice actor by any means and I don’t think my voice would fit at all. 😦

I’m sure you’ll sound fine! I’ve got a funny accent and so do a few of my friends who recorded lines for the ships arriving. It’s all getting folded into a pleasing babble regardless; the bigger variety of voices the better, I figure.

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#1420734
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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DominicCobb said:

On the topic of things that feel missing, this reminds me, is there some way we can find a way to show the landing gear get busted when the Falcon saves Rey from the hangar? Stormtroopers shoot it or something?

I forget if any of the troopers actually fire in that scene, but if they do, it presumably wouldn’t be an impossible bit of VFX to add some laser bolts hitting the rear of the Falcon. Then you’d just need to do a very quick insert shot of the landing gear being hit and shooting sparks, which I imagine (although I’m not a VFX person) could be created with an extreme closeup of a good quality textured digital model, which must be available out there somewhere, and rendered with matching lighting.

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#1420650
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The Rise of Skywalker Expanded Edition by Rae Carson: The Faraday Edit (WIP)
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I probably will end up going with that. When fanedits have a focused goal in mind (eg. “make ROTS fit better with TCW”, “remove Palpatine from TROS”), it’s easy to give them names that evoke that goal. When it’s just “an edit that I personally like” it’s too vague to do that, so a name seems to fit the personal nature of that best.

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#1420647
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The Rise of Skywalker Expanded Edition by Rae Carson: The Faraday Edit (WIP)
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Also, I’m thinking of changing the name. The scope has shifted slightly from just a quality-of-life edit, what with bringing in bits of DOTF and earlier script leaks, expanding extant sequences, and adding a few new scenes. But it’s already called the Expanded Edition; what more could I call it? The Supersized Edition?

It makes me think of that joke from Black Books, when he asks about the drink sizes in the fast food restaurant. “They come in Medium, Large, Goliath, or God.”

Or do I just lean into my nascent egotism and call it “The Faraday Edit.”

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#1420646
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Worst Edit Ideas
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Hal 9000 said:

Eyepainter said:

Make this the ending to Episode I:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HcRSmifnon0

Make all Sith die by their own hand. In ROTS, Dooku jumps off that balcony, only to land and cause his head to fall off. I guess Vader already does, and Palpatine in ROTJ doesn’t count anymore. Palpatine in TROS could fry himself perhaps, with Rey turning off her sabers as he keeps pouring the juice onto himself.

Yoda: “Always none there are.”

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#1420638
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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sherlockpotter said:

Finn’s line was already there. The only changes I made were cutting the Lando line and adding the Poe line. (I wasn’t sure about the latter, but I wanted to try to emphasize the uncertainty a little more. I did also tweak the volume levels to make “You with” more balanced against “The Resistance.”)

Sorry for the confusion with the trooper! I meant to cut that first part out of the timeline for this test, but…oh well.

EDIT: Same test, but only the relevant bits included. Sorry, everyone: https://streamable.com/sgsiln

That’s flawless.