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#374352
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Two questions about the Battle of Yavin
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G E Predator said:
C3PX said:

Observe:

Tarkin would have gone, “That must be where the Rebel base is! Destroy that planet!”?

The question mark (?) at the end of this quote indicates that it was a question.

He is asking, not stating. Basically he was asking you, do you actually think Tarkin would have blown up the planet the Falcon was traced to, regardless of whether or not there was evidence to indicate there was Rebel activity taking place there?

Yes, I believe that he would.  Since no one in the Empire had any idea where the Rebel Base was, they would have assumed that whatever planet that the Millennium Falcon would be where the Rebel's hidden base was located.

In that case, they should have gone to hire another ship on whatever planet the Emperor was on. 

 

(Probably Coruscant.  I never liked that planet anyway.)

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#374314
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Two questions about the Battle of Yavin
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G E Predator said:
cap said:

I didn’t realize that Yavin was a gas giant.  That’s a satisfying answer to that question.

 

Question #3: if Leia suspected that there was a homing beacon on the Falcon, why didn’t they go somewhere else and hire another ship to fly to Yavin?  Did they want the Death Star to find their base?

 

That I can answer definetly.  Leia is not the type of person to put innocent people at risk.  Since the Empire was following the Falcon to the secret Rebel Base - which they were trying to find to begin with - they would have assumed that the first place that the Millennium Falcon lands.

 

That doesn’t make sense.  If they had gone to a place where ships can be hired (Mos Eisley on Tatooine, or a similar place), Tarkin would have gone, “That must be where the Rebel base is! Destroy that planet!”?

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#374302
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Two questions about the Battle of Yavin
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JarHead413 said:

I don't know how much time the DS needs between shots.  Might be a day to recharge that thing

That certainly was not the case in ROTJ, but who knows, maybe technology advanced in four years from “takes a day to recharge” to “takes moments to recharge even when the darn thing is only halfway built.”  True, this is a universe that had no significant technological development for thousands of years, but you never know.

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#374274
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Two questions about the Battle of Yavin
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1) Why don’t the rebels evacuate the base just in case?  A skeleton crew would have to remain behind to coordinate the attack on the Death Star, but they can do that from a ship, and everybody else can be getting the hell out of Dodge at light speed, leaving the Death Star nothing to destroy but an empty base.

 

2) The Death Star spends 30 minutes orbiting the planet to get a shot at the moon.  Wouldn’t it be a lot faster to just blast the planet?  Judging by the debris and shock wave resulting from the destruction of Alderaan (in the SE and later editions), the explosion almost certainly would take out the moon.  Even if it doesn’t, it would leave the Death Star with an open shot at the moon.  At the very least, the moon would be rendered uninhabitable and the base useless; people and ships might have a chance to get away, but they should be gone already anyway, especially if you give them an extra 30 minutes to evacuate while you circle the planet.

And talk about an “effective demonstration”!  It would say, “If you harbor Rebels in your system, you’re dead, no questions asked, so you better be vigilant about not letting Rebels use your system.”

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#289359
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What about the slaves?
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Originally posted by: Scruffy
Originally posted by: cap
If she didn't know she was adopted, then a description of Mrs. Organa would be a natural response to that question.


If she didn't know that she was adopted, the natural response would be to look at Luke like he had grown a hand out of his forehead.


Why? If Bail Organa had remarried, she could have understood the question to be referring to her mother as opposed to her stepmother.

Misunderstandings happen IRL. I think it's entirely realistic for Leia to understand the question in a different way than Luke intends it.
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#289251
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What about the slaves?
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Originally posted by: cap
Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Oh, these are not plot holes. They're Deliberate Creative Decisions. Just like Leia remembering her mom even though she died in childbirth.


Did Leia know she was adopted? Is it possible she was talking about Mrs. Organa?


Luke: Do you remember your mother. Your real mother?

No, she wasn't talking about her adoptive mother.


If she didn't know she was adopted, then a description of Mrs. Organa would be a natural response to that question.
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#289234
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What about the slaves?
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Originally posted by: CO
Anakin was a slave in TPM? It didn't seem like that bad of a life, considering he had his own house, lived with his mother, had time to build a podracer and C3PO, and even got to sit down to a nice home cook meal with the family & friends. And he even yelled, 'Yipee' twice. Doesn't sound like a slave to me, sounds a normal middle class kid! Maybe I have to watch Roots again to understand the plight of slaves.


Yes, slaves can even own property in TPM. Anakin gave Shmi the money from selling the pod racer, and also elicited a promise from her not to sell 3PO. It's obviously a much more liberal form of slavery than was practiced in the U.S. or has been practiced elsewhere on Earth. Still slavery, though.

Here's another interesting note: the wager Watto makes with Qui-Gonn gives the impression that a pod racer is roughly comparable in worth to one slave. Anakin and Qui-Gonn sell what, from the race, appears to be the fastest pod around and presumably worth a lot of money, and they give that money to Shmi. Why didn't she buy her own freedom?

Maybe she decided slavery wasn't so bad. Say, Watto sold her to Cliegg Lars, and she had the hots for him, so she decided to stick around. Just an idea. Or maybe Cliegg freed her right away so she never had to buy her freedom.
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#289148
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What about the slaves?
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I was just watching TPM, and when Anakin said he had a dream he would become a Jedi and come back to free the slaves, I got to wondering:

Whatever happens with slavery on Tattooine? Do the slaves ever get freed? If so, how, and when, and does Anakin have anything to do with it?

I'm guessing the EU has touched on this. Anybody know?
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#278704
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Seeing the Saga in order - a review by a first-time viewer....
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I've been watching them in 1-2-3-4-5-6 order, and noticed an interesting effect of this order is that, except for the last one, they just keep getting better. 2 is better than 1; 3 is better than 2; 4 is better than 3; and 5 is better than 4. (I realize that opinions are mixed on 2 versus 1, but it's close, and the general pattern holds.)

Some people in this discussion (including myself) have expressed a desire to maintain the surprise of "I am your Father" in Episode 5. Watching them in order, I have decided that it's not a great loss. We know that Luke doesn't know, so the emotional power of the scene is still there. The surprise is gone, but TESB is such an excellent movie that it doesn't need to rely on a surprise twist ending for its impact. Even without that surprise, it still stands as the best episode of the series.
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#274188
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Chefelf's Nitpicker's guide to Star Wars
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Are we talking about this comment here, about the makeup and costume jobs on three characters, one of whom happens to be portrayed by an Asian actress?
Max Rebo's backup singers build a strong case for the use of more CGI. While, as a rule, I hate CGI characters, these characters represent possibly the worst live action makeup and costume jobs in film history. The three of them look like they're about to come in tenth place in a Star Wars costume contest.
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#274046
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Chefelf's Nitpicker's guide to Star Wars
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Originally posted by: crazyrabbits
"(when the Alliance fleet suddenly realizes the Death Star's shield is still functional, it would have been nice to see one or two X-Wings crash into said shield and explode, having not had enough time to pull up)."

Something about that confuses me a little.

Lando says, "We've got to be able to get some reading on that shield, up or down," and then realizes that the reason they can't get a reading either way is that they're being jammed.

Yet he seems to know the moment the shield goes down.

Did the jamming stop? Did the rebels find a way around it? What happened?