budwhite

Moth3r said:

dark_jedi said:

... reversing the left and right surround is not difficult at all...

From what I remember, it's only the music in the rear channels that is reversed - the sound effects are correctly positioned. So, in order to fix the issue, you would need to isolate the music from the effects. Not easy.

Sometimes I wonder how people could notice things like this.

I have no problem with the '04 audio. But I like the ¨97 better. Maybe that's to much work to synch it up

I was thinking, with all these new projects from the Japanese special collection LDs coming and with all the different audio mixes on a.b.starwars, would it be hard to synch up these new dvds to match the gouts so we can use the audio as we please?(I have all of them I think)

Or is this always done, to match was does already excist?

(the mono-mix and belbecus pcm rips have been out for some time now)

I say keep it simple. One or two audio tracks, eng subs and just the movie. Less timeconsuming and bigger chance that it will show up sooner rather than later/never.

Well this should be good. I just watched Dark Jedi's clip again, this time on my TV and it looks surprisingly good. It's almost 25 years old goddamn.

Looking forward to this Arnie!

How is the audio from the broadcast? Same mix as the '04 DVDs I presume?

Even though the Gout has much better quality I did like the different look of this.

But as you said, there are other projects in the making. Let's hope we'll see them in a few months

Well the audio(97, 04 DD 5.1) wont take up much space so this seems like a good idea

Was is the bitrate on Ady's dvd 9 1080p and his 14gb version?

Any screenshots?

Watched the clip. It looks so alive compared to the gout. More colors, more old school I think. Great quality on the cloose-ups but not much detail in the last scene of the movie. Overall, great vibe watching this

I'm stealing this thread a little.

I'm really interested in how "good"/bad a LD movie looks when it's projected. Is it even watchable in 100" 16/9 on a screen?

Screenshots would be much appreciated.

(dark jedis 16:9 gout is another deal, I bet they could look pretty decent with a good blu-ray player doing the up-scaling)

dark_jedi said:

So has anyone watched these yet?

We would love to know what you think of them.

 Watched a bit of empire today. This is almost real DVD quality on my 32" tube. I have seen anamorphics dvds from the 70s that dont match this image. I guess it doesn't look as good on a 52" plasma but... hey, this is a big upgrade to what I've seen before

Thanks for all the info boys. I love to read about this stuff.

DD must be a great codec compared to mp3. A 96 mono can sound very decent enough for an old film, but Beatles in 96 mono mp3 doesn't...

vbangle said:

Then get a usenet account.

 I finally did that yesterday. $25, 180gb. Set it up in 5 min and started downloading dark jedis Gout. Damn this was easy. And you can d/l a lot of stuff with 180gb. So that $25 ain't no money to talk about if you're interested in this stuff.

Go get it!

Would this in anyway look better in 1080p on blu or is the source material to bad? Or maybe it's a whole other project to scan this in 2k... Yeh I can hear myself that aint gonna happen :p

skyjedi2005 said:

As far as i know the video qualiy has to suffer from a bitrate starvation and look like shit to fit a full PCM track on it, supposedly even if you strip out all the extras and other audios already on the dvd it still won't mux right, from what i've heard anyway.

 

 I think it was something like that I read before yes.

I have plenty of concert dvds with PCM 2.0, don't know what bitrate but I guess you can do a hell lot more if you're Sony Columbia... ;)

Moth3r said:

 

2. How's your maths? 48kHz (1000 samples per second) x 16 bits per sample x 2 channels = 1536kbps. I suppose you could use 96kHz/24 bit if you really wanted to...

 Not very good heh heh. But that's what I thought anyway.

Although I thought I read somewhere before that it was a bit difficult to put a 1536 pcm 2.0 to a dvd, because of the high bitrate... or I am dreaming?  If not, why wasn't the full lossless rip included(or ½ bitrate pcm)? There was atleast 1gb free space on each discs...

(Sorry if this have been discussed before)

A coupla questions:

1. What is the highest bitrate for 2.0 stereo (surround) Dolby Digital on DVD?

2. What is the highest bitrate with 2.0 stereo (surround) PCM on DVD?

The new PCM tracks on dark jedi's DVD was a huge improment on the gout DVDs. But I'm just a little curious why the bitrate wasn't higher?

What he said.

I don't really know if I want to see the whole film but I love projects like this. I think it's amazing that you can make a dvd out of a 16mm film print . It feels real. Again, way to go, grande puggo!

Ady, Imho, but dont do a V2. That's just like doing a Lucas

HD was standard when he did it. But it's to hard to work in 1080 they say. ESB will be 720

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

budwhite said:

new screenshots or short clips?

Focusing right now on getting the DVD out the door.  After that's done, I'll see about putting other stuff up on the website.  Still fiddling with the menu.

 Great!

neebis said:

budwhite said:

I think it looks good. But I never understand why people dont like grain...

Well, all my testing and tweaks were intended to retain as much original film grain as possible and lose the analog video noise (in addition to reducing the wobble and aliasing). I know some of the doom9 filters were designed to completely kill original film grain and I cringe when I see shots of completely grain-free processed films with a flat, antiseptic, digital look. I always appreciate good Blu-ray transfers that retain all the grain you would see in a theatrical print.

That's good to hear.

Patton is a horrible example when reducing grain gone wrong. People look unnatural and waxy.

Have you relaced the sound also?

any news?