brash_stryker

Looking good!

A few ideas. I agree that the saber coming out of the sleeve should be cut. Gives that much more impact to the saber igniting in the darkness.

Have Palps get up slower. Cut from him starting to get up to showing the Jedi again with their sabers drawn but have the lights flicker accompanied by the force rumble sound effect. Maybe insert a puzzled closeup shot of Mace's face during the flicker before cutting back to Palps getting up all the way as the lights dim completely.

I think it would be perfect then. I think it's important to get a reaction shot of sorts from the Jedi to the lights flickering/dimming.

How I would do it:

Are you threatening me, master jedi?

Not yet.

Palps gets up and the lights flicker as he does so

Cut to the shot of the Jedi with their sabers drawn. Lights flicker more along with inceasingly loud force Rumble.

Closeup of Mace's face in the flickering light.

Shot of Palps after the omitted sleeve closeup. It's treason then. (lights flicker and dim to nothing) Palpatine's saber ignotes from the darkness.

Pic removed due to bad taste. Sorry doubleofive!

Pretty sure Ady did it in After Effects, but I think there is a way to colour correct in FCP. Though don't ask me how.

Nicholas J. Michalak said:

I also have a shot in TPM that I feel is poorly animated, as if they never finished rendering the shot.  It's in the Gungan/Droid battle after a billow of smoke clears and a group of the hover tanks apear.  Just looks like a video game graphic with zero detail.

I know exactly the bit you mean. Has always stuck out like a sore thumb to me.

Nicholas J. Michalak said:

Here's my opening for TPM.  Should prove interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWio0Bbu5lE

-NJM

Liking it very much!

Haha, nice! :)

Found any way to get Mace to confront Palpatine alone? I'm aware that there's a problem with the multiple lightsaber ignitions accompanying Jackson's line in the centre channel and that the shot is moving too much for it to be as simple as just using a clean plate, but I'm sure it's possible. Just wondered :)

Man, Jake Lloyd gets on my tits! Anakin should have been older! In fact, it would be very tempting in my edits to make Episode 2 into Episode 1, Episode 3 into Episode 2, while padding them both out with some sequences from Phantom Menace where appropriate.

Of course, that would mean there'd be no episode 3 anymore. Lol.

But seriously, whilst Episode 1 is arguably the best of the prequels, it totally butchers the origins of Anakin Skywalker (as well as how it ruins our preconceptions established in ANH that Owen and Beru knew Anakin very well before Obi Wan dragged him on an "idealistic crusade")

Ahhhh! I understand now :)

BarBar Jinkx said:

Just had a funky idea,

 

what if Anakin decides to join the sith before he goes and tells mace Palpatines identity, but doesnt say that HE is the sith

then when Mace confronts palps & sees the lightsaber pop out it of his sleave it is a shock to him and the other Jedi (maybe have it so they don't light up their blades until then.)

*confused* How is it a shock to them if, as you say, Anakin tells them Palpatine's identity?

vaderios said:

Imagine then replacing each "lens flare" with a "lens maul"

-Lensed Angel

How about a mockup? ;)

This is one idea I don't agree with. The way I always saw it, the sith eyes were something that developed from years of corruption by the darkside. Not something that suddenly appears due to the character's mood.

Same goes for Palpatine's Halloween mask features. I don't agree with that either. The first time we should see prune faced palps is ESB if possible.

Edit: Having said that, it DOES make Anakin's fall seem more believable and less of a conscious decision. You can see he's giving in to his hate, rather than making a conscious decision to do bad things.

So basically, I'm on the fence. Your way works a LOT better than the original though :)

I'm really hoping for some Episode 2 goodies on the Star Wars Soundboards soon. It'll be so much easier smoothing out the sound in places if I have some clean dialogue for the parts I'm altering.

There's no way I'd keep the Threepio memory wipe as it feels too forced and convenient. I think Any self respecting edits of the prequels should remove Threepio from Episodes 1 and 2 anyway, as Anakin building him was stupid beyond belief.

But it begs the question why was he impersonating a Jedi to begin with? He wants Obi Wan to join him, but for what purpose? His reason for trying to convince Obi Wan he's good and that together they can "destroy the sith" is never explained or followed up on. It just shows that George wasn't thinking at all about the characters' motivations when he wrote the script.

That's why, IMO, it's better to make him a rogue Jedi. It's not perfect that way either, as even then, the Jedi refusing to believe him when "he couldn't assassinate anyone. It's not in his character" is stupid.

Unless we can find a way to either give Dooku motivations that make sense for wanting to appear good (but really being evil) or make it more plausible that the Jedi don't believe him (has he tried explaining things to them? What reason have they possibly got to not question everything when he's TELLING them that he's discovered the republic is under Sith control?)

If these things can't be addressed whichever way an editor goes with it, I fear that the prequels will be forever broken.

I'm liking the idea, but how could it be achieved? We'd need footage of Obi picking a saber up from Grievous' broken body, or to somehow imply that that's what he does.

I think I'd vote white too. As for grievous' sabers, I'm all for him having his own red set, but I'm wondering if it's possible to change the handles. Not only are they all different (which doesn't sit right with me if we're to ignore the "trophies from dead jedi explanation" but anakin and obi's sabers are there amongst them. Moreso, and I forget where I saw this, but the sabers change colour from blue to green in respect to their corresponding handles (obviously this isn't an issue in your cut, but worth mentioning all the same) What are the guys at ILM paid for exactly?

Also, I'd like to know how the electricity on the staffs is recoloured. And in turn am wondering why this method cannot be used to just recolour the lightsabers as opposed to re-rotoscoping from scratch. That's always confused me. lol

sans_fi said:

On the episode "Grievous Intrigue" of Season 2, you have Grievous delivering the line: "The story of Obi-Wan Kenobi ends here!" wich I think its a great line for him to say during the movie... but... that scene of the TV series might have too much noise and music.

IIRC, Adywan mentioned in another thread a while back that The Clone Wars is broadcast with voice and sound effects in the centre channel and the music in the others (unlike the films, where the music bleeds into the centre channel) so you can isolate it from the music completely.

The way they've mastered the sound for that is a fan editor's wet dream. I just wish they'd do it for the movies too. So unless there are a lot of sound effects as he's saying the line, there shouldn't be a problem, as long as you get hold of the audio from the broadcast rather than the DVD. :)

Wow! Exactly what I'd like to do if I ever reach ROTS. How did you recolour the lightning on the staffs?

THX certified mic = porn IMO

Edit: Man I was so drunk writing that.

Speaking of Boba Fett, soundboards were released

http://www.starwars.com/games/playnow/soundboards/#/?theme=38

It's no problem at all preserving the impact if we give ourselves free reign to edit the OT. But I think most people want to make the PT fit with the OT, not the other way around :(

AuggieBenDoggie said:

 

Having the Executor as close as it is when she says the line is what the problem is really all about, and not the line itself. Thats what I would be suggesting to ady instead of the line change.

Agreed. Make the Destroyer less glaringly obvious and that would solve the 'princess obvious' problem.

At the risk of pissing people off for going off topic, have you heard of the restored content mod for KOTOR2, Darthmunky?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Sith_Lords_Restored_Content_Mod

They've just released a final version after months of Beta testing.

Proof that whenever a studio (be it film or game) fail to deliver, the community takes matters into its own hands, and "fan edits" are born.

See, I brought that one on topic....sort of :p