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brash_stryker

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#361826
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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DuTwan said:

I agree makes this quest for power more valid than this lust to save Padme. Episode 3 shud have been him falling from a great pilot and friend of Obi Wan to Vader but all we see is a whiny git that ppl didnt really like anyways, one way that could of fixed Hayden's bad acting wud of been change of actor. Imagine this:

 

Hell. We should just delete Hayden completely and reshoot his part ourselves. Anyone got a green screen? :P

 

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#361791
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

I've been sitting on this for a while...not sure if I should show it...but I thought it might get some conversation going:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsxwtYG1Dhk

(Give it a minute to finish uploading)

 

This is absolutely PERFECT. The two scenes work really well side by side, mention of saving padme is subtle, and no freaking midichlorians!

Also, whilst it's a bit rough at the moment, I love the dramatic musical cue at the end, with Palpatine just smiling (rather than the needless explanation of "power to save padme" there was before)

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#361663
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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SilverKey said:

I'm sorry, but I disagree with that, brash_stryker. I actually think Anakin's issues with attachment is one of the few things that works very well in the PT. It's a thread that runs through all the three movies: he leaves his mother in TPM, is too late to save her in AOTC, and in ROTS, his one attachment has become such an obsession he turns to the Dark Side over it. It's actually pretty character defining.

It's not the reasoning that bothers me, so much as the way it's portrayed. You never actually get a sense that he's been turned. More like made a calculated decision, which to me, was not at all what I imagined turning to the dark side to be about. To me, it's a slow and gradual process of seduction, which yes, can include empty promises of saving the ones you love, but as it is now, it is the ONLY reason he turns, and it just isn't convincing.

This is why I think emphasising his distrust of the jedi/lust for power throughout the film, and de-emphasising the need to save padme needs to be done. Maybe not completely, as that was perhaps a little extreme of me, but definitely not as EXPLAIN TO THE AUDIENCE as it is now. For example, we could just have padme's death dream, but he doesn't mention it, and then palpatine's mention at the opera of a sith who could stop people from dying. That's all the audience needs to make the connection. Having Anakin explain his reasons for turning is stupid, and is just another example of Lucas' contempt for an audience he thinks are too stupid to connect dots themselves.

In the scene with anakin alone in the jedi council chamber, I really think there needs to be some fast paced sound editing, of the echoing voices of his peers criticising him/being dishonest, as well as palpatine's promises etc, which could gradually get faster and faster, culminating in a crescendo of noise, conveying his torment. Perhaps with Anakin screaming. This is when Ben Danger's idea of an anonymous Vader from then on in the film could come into play.

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#361557
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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I think saving Padme's life being Anakin's rationale for turning to the dark side needs to be cut completely.

Either cut the dream, or replace it with a more symbolic dream sequence, and don't have Anakin mention the dream to her or promise that he can save her (Luke never talked about his vision in the cave; we just saw it, and that worked just fine)

Also get rid of all Palpatine's promises about saving her. Just keep the parts of him seducing Anakin with promises of power.

After Anakin tells Windu about palpatine being a sith, and he's in the Jedi council chamber, and you hear the echoing voice of palpatine saying "any chance of saving her will be lost" etc. Replace that with sound bytes of his senior jedi masters being critical/holding him back/saying things that hint at dishonesty, interspersed with palpatine's promises of power.

When he then rushes to stop Windu, it is clear then that it is his distrust of the Jedi, along with the promise of power that's seducing him. It's not perfect, but it's better than "I'm making a conscious decision to turn to the dark side to save my girlfriend"

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#361542
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Bingowings said:

I wish there was a way to show the Palpatine transformation in a more subtle way (he has almost two decades of evil to turn into the pale prune face we see in ROTJ).

It would be more acceptable to me if the lightning accident doesn't happen at all but he slowing becomes consumed by the dark forces he is using.

 

Totally agree. This is just another example of George's "explain EVERYTHING" attitude with the prequels. I personally like the idea of a first time viewer reaching Empire, and thinking "wow, the dark side really has done a number on him"

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#360948
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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ben_danger said:

got a bit more carried away on janboba...this would be impossible to do. though there are yellow kneepads this time!:) the gun really looks pathetic compared his elephant blaster in ESB.

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/9904/boba4.th.jpg

 

Yeah I agree that this battle damage would be pretty much impossible to add frame by frame, but personally, I really like the idea of the armour being pristine in AOTC and then battered up in the subsequent period leading to Empire. :)

Love the yellow kneepads btw :D

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#360736
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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DuTwan said:

The uniforms are different in regards to armour on the legs, boba was known for his own gun and not two pistols, different jetpack and always it would miss the well known should cloth thing lmao. Besides this i will try and change Jango into Boba with the power of the Photoshop! :D

 

It's feasible that Boba would have slightly changed his armour/weaponry in the period between the PT and the OT. Also it wasn't just the cloths he had over his shoulder, but braided wookie scalps - which tie up with the imperial/trandoshan persecution of the wookies in these same years.

Can't say I particularly care whether the outfits/arsenal match up exactly. His gun, cloth and jetback all change between Empire and Jedi anyway.

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#360727
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Was going to sign up to suggest this very thing, but RoccondilRinon beat me to it.

My opinion - Recolor Jango (maybe Angel/Vaderios could create some mockups here) so that he has the same colour armour as OT Boba (pre battle damage)

Also remove young Boba. This little kid is just one of the things that ruined my childhood preconceptions of Boba Fett as a badass.

As far as everyone thinks. the armoured bounty hunter is boba, but never referred to by name and never seen without his helmet (to preserve the character's mystery)

This would turn (boba) fett from 30 years old in return of the jedi, to much older (and therefore veteran)
This coupled with the mystery added to the character (you only catch glimpses of him, and never find out his age or see him without his helmet), would make him something of a mythical character. Spanning 2 eras.

Something to start off the ideas train:

Recolour Boba and cut all helmetless scenes - maybe superimpose a helmet for the few helmetless arena shots
Maybe give him some new dialogue (in OT Jason Wingreen type voice)
Cut out child Boba - could potentially still have him on the arena podium, but then he's assumed to be a nobody or a boy servant.
When he takes off at the arena, cut there. He never takes on mace and never dies. We just assume he making an escape after seeing the overwhelming amount of Jedi that have just arrived.

 

Also, off the Boba topic slightly, I think the Jedi and the republic should already be aware of the Clone Army from the start  (thus eliminating the ridiculous Obi Wan detective sifo dyas sub plot). This could be achieved with some clever editing, and using the analysis droids deleted scene (and dubbing new voices or subtitles for the droids that link the dart immediately with Kamino rather than all the deleted archives nonsense)

The entire clone army made in secret thing went nowhere, and the Jedi and the republic were happy to make use of them despite not knowing the agenda of who had them created. Dumbasses!